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cway313
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I'm ok with hope. I would never try to infringe on someone else's.
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MT-hurricane
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Grover, are you gonna let this guy speak to you like this?
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Did so with our baseball team 20 years ago.. and now football. None of the other sports ever made it worthwhile spending my energy and emotions.
We are just a mediocre sports program led by a mediocre athletic dept..
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Big facts!!!!
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We just don't have the coaching infrastructure in place to develop any of those recruiting classes that Mario has brought in. Seriously take a close look at the Mario high school recruits who do well here. They are mostly all super high floor kids like Francis Mauigoa at RT, Rueben Bain and Mark Fletcher as well as Jordan Lyle, OJ Frederiqueand Elija Lofton. You could say Wesley Bissainthe has been homegrown but how much better has he really become? Riley Williams improved after his first year only to leave. Jaden Wayne, Nyjalik Kelly, Collins Acheamepong, Robert Stafford, Chris Johnson Jr, Kaleb Spencer, Robby Washington, Malik Bryant, Ray Ray Joseph, Cyrus Moss, Jaleel Skinner, Chris Graves, Khamari Rogers, Jaden Harris Markieth Williams and Samson Okunlola. Some of these kids could still develop but only a few are still here.
Compare the above to the successes like Isaiah Horton, Anez Cooper, Ahmad Moten and I'll give you Matt McCoy. The development of kids like Cam Pruitt, Popo Aguirre, Adarius Hayes, Bobby Washington, Justin Scott, Armando Blount, Artavious Jones, Booker Pickett, Elias Rudolph, Marquis Lightfoot, Cole McConathy, Zaquan Patterson, Dylan Day, Damari Brown, Ryan Mack, Isiaah Thomas, Tommy Kinsler, Jojo Trader, Ny Carr and Chance Robinson will be absolutely crucial to Mario's future success but without a complete gutting and rebuilding of the defensive staff, failure will be a foregone conclusion. I also have hope for kids like Trader, Carr and Robinson because Kevin Beard has been one of the very few bright spots in terms of position coaches among this mostly pedestrian staff. Of course Alex Mirabal and Cristobal have done a good job with the OL and I'll say coach Woodiel has done a good job as well. The issue is clearly this defensive staff.
Look at the names above, particularly those I listed first and tell me you don't think this program needs to find a better way to evaluate recruits. There is a huge disconnect here and Mario's analytics based body types bro approach certainly isn't cutting it and don't even get me started on the QBs.
cway313
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@WeBallinBoyz it has begun. At this rate everyone will start to figure it out by year 8.
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I was agreeing with you bro. There's nothing left to figure out. What I left out was the fact that even if he could develop players he wouldn't know what to do with them.
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cway313
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I know. My post was that more people were starting to realize this. For the longest very few would acknowledge reality.
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No coincidence we joined the ACC and team fell apart. I mean what kid didn't want to play Duke, NC, WF. Death nail to the program
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Look we all knew who Mario was when he got here. I just wanted to give him 3 years to prove to me that he could grow and improve/adapt. Take away Cam Ward and a couple pieces here and there, the reality is that this team is basically the same dumpster fire of 2022 with a much better OL and publicity department.
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The only reason I saw Cway's post is because you "@" me with it in your post. So I'll just note I have him on block not because I have any problem with people criticizing the team. WBB, Angry Ibis, Inday, ... ****, 80% of the fan base criticize the team right now. Even D$ is seriously critical of the team atm. That's fine with me.
Cway is different. He's a narcissist who craves attention, and achieves that by posting cynical, "fake cute" jibes at the staff and players in nearly every thread, in most cases off-topic and meant to derail the discussion. The fact he knows I've blocked him but has to mention me shows he's mentally fragile and hates when his cries for attention are seen for what they really are.
Is he still stalking @TheOriginalCane ? I'll bet he is. His ego can't accept it when he gets humiliated and outwitted every time he makes a run at him. Not being a lawyer, I don't have the patience or argumentativeness that TOC has. Blocking is easier.
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I must admit I find it a little sad that ironman quotes Cway so I of course take the bait and read the comments. Nothing Cway writes bothers me anymore. He is who he is, and because he's so annoying, I'll keep him on block.
But there are a lot of posters on here who have gone full ******. What we saw in the back half of this season is not any different than what we saw when we were going undefeated. Guidry was exposed as a fraud, and his DBs were downright awful. Their collective performance turned what could have / should have been a legitimate championship run into a disappointing 10-3 season capped by another bowl loss.
The outcome is infuriating. But it is knee-jerk reaction to look at that finish and conclude that Mario is trash, or that this team is as bad as the Shannon, Golden and Manny teams. First, the records show that's not true. Second, the roster depth across all the positions shows that's not true. Third, the approach to addressing failure is at an entirely different (better) level of professionalism. Finally, the smart money backing Mario's play is if anything increasing its commitment.
So yes, I can both post being a fan of Mario's while also creating a thread that we need 8 more playoff caliber players in the portal in order to make the playoffs. And yes, I can legitimately believe Mario will be going after all 8 of those players because I know (and so should everyone else on here), that he is self-critical enough to know he needs to get them. And he has the NIL support to go get them.
Mario may not succeed in landing them all. He may still crash and burn in hiring his third DC in 4 years. But I still believe in him. 8 guys is probably the fewest gaps we've had in our roster in 2 decades. So I expect he'll get really close. The QB is obviously the most important. Let's see how it plays out.
But there are a lot of posters on here who have gone full ******. What we saw in the back half of this season is not any different than what we saw when we were going undefeated. Guidry was exposed as a fraud, and his DBs were downright awful. Their collective performance turned what could have / should have been a legitimate championship run into a disappointing 10-3 season capped by another bowl loss.
The outcome is infuriating. But it is knee-jerk reaction to look at that finish and conclude that Mario is trash, or that this team is as bad as the Shannon, Golden and Manny teams. First, the records show that's not true. Second, the roster depth across all the positions shows that's not true. Third, the approach to addressing failure is at an entirely different (better) level of professionalism. Finally, the smart money backing Mario's play is if anything increasing its commitment.
So yes, I can both post being a fan of Mario's while also creating a thread that we need 8 more playoff caliber players in the portal in order to make the playoffs. And yes, I can legitimately believe Mario will be going after all 8 of those players because I know (and so should everyone else on here), that he is self-critical enough to know he needs to get them. And he has the NIL support to go get them.
Mario may not succeed in landing them all. He may still crash and burn in hiring his third DC in 4 years. But I still believe in him. 8 guys is probably the fewest gaps we've had in our roster in 2 decades. So I expect he'll get really close. The QB is obviously the most important. Let's see how it plays out.