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sstcane said:
Rousseau actually excelled rushing from O tech. People don’t realize that even in the early 90’s we would run 3 man fronts on 3rd downs at times.

GR had an injured back in camp which caused him to play coming off the bench to start the year.

The Ragone over Brooks vs GT is still a head scratcher.

Having LB’s healthy and more depth at safety should really help ST. Last year I remember seeing a lot of walk ons playing.

Even though we are running spread, I think it will benefit the D. Our 3rd down offence was one of the worst in the country. Also how many bone head turnovers did we have in our own end.

I have a feeling we will be much better than what people are expecting this year. We lost so many close games last year with a trash Enos O and no kicking game.
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But Baker called the 3 man fronts on every 3rd down passing situation. It okay as a wrinkles
 
NorthEastCane said:
This statement right here counters your assertion. You're right, the defense can't take anyone out of their game plan. And how do you suppose you get a two touchdown lead if the defense never gets of the field, … turnovers? Turnovers help but they're streaky. You can't rely on them particularly against the better teams (with better QBs).
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Because we could not score any points. We couldn't even pick up first downs. We were usually high with 3 and outs. We never got off the field defensively in those games? That's nonsense. Most of those games we lost we were fighting from behind. Our offense was the worst in the BCS.
 
Pentagon Cane said:
Because we could not score any points. We couldn't even pick up first downs. We were usually high with 3 and outs. We never got off the field defensively in those games? That's nonsense. Most of those games we lost we were fighting from behind. Our offense was the worst in the BCS.
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Of course we were fighting from behind … because the defense was giving up points not the offense. Which game, other that VT, was the offense giving up points and putting the defense in a hole? The answer, none. The defense gave them up on their own. That's the nature of the game, the defense has to hold them and get off the field until the offense gets going.

That's not to say the offense didn't make it difficult on the defense, it did. But don't talk like the defense was blameless. Those few times that the offense did their part, in key downs, the defense gave it back. And that's the issue. We weren't high in 3 and outs. Last year, we were 41st in 3rd down defense and 123rd in 4 down. The year before it was even worst, we were 75th in 3rd down. I wouldn't call that "usually high".
 
JOE'CANE said:
If Ragone sees the field AGAIN therr is a serious problem!!! Blake has alot to prove and the amount of talent we have for the next 2-3 year there are no excuses. Ragone sees the field and dude should be relieved of his duties immediately.

Srry man the guy made a horrible 1st impression. Not starting Rosseau, going to that 3 man rush on 3rd n longs, and dropping DEs into coverage. It just didnt seem like he got alot out of the defense.
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I agree with everything you wrote and in fact I have posted the exact same thoughts on several occasions.

My stop just stop post was not in defense of Ragone or Baker playing him. It was me saying that I don't want to hear Ragone's name mentioned because he has zero business getting any reps over our scholarship players in games or in practice.
 
grover said:
Translation: Defense has a lot of talent across the board. But he's worried about LB as no one has emerged as the top dog. Fair?
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That's fine but the way I see things if it is true that nobody has emerged then I say throw Huff and Brooks out there and let them get on the job training. It's practically a given that those 2 will improve significantly as the season progresses.

I'll say this...........If this becomes a situation where Baked is trotting out Ragone because "He knows his assignments and is always where he is supposed to be." ......then we are in deep trouble in terms of the competency of our DC. That would indicate that we have a Donofrio type mentality/situation with Baked.

Looking at the big picture in terms of the entire staff and the seeming direction of the program the above scenario doesn't seen very likely. Yeah Manny effed up really bad year 1 with the Dumb **** hire but to his credit he got rid of **** after 1 year and hired Lashlee in order to install the type of offense this program needs to be running and should have been running. Recruiting has taken a quantum leap forward and there are many accounts that this team has also taken a giant step forward in terms of overall speed, talent development and execution. It doesn't make sense to me that Diaz would allow Baked to ruin what basically amounts to a critical season to his future as a Head Coach on the side of the ball that is his area of expertise no less. With this in mind I fully expect Diaz to be extremely hands on in the game planning, scheming and game day play calling on defense. It wouldn't be a stretch to expect Diaz to be the defacto DC this season. There is simply too much at stake.


If Diaz can get this 2020 defense to play at a level that shows the best qualities of both the 2017/2018 defenses then this 2020 squad will not only be super exciting to watch but it will be very difficult to beat for most teams. I bring up the combined strengths of the 2017 and 2018 defenses because I believe that type/level of performance is realistic and within our ability. The rock solid if unspectacular play/depth at DT, our explosive, uber talented and deep DE, athleticism, speed and lateral quickness of our young LBs paired with what is likely the biggest factor which is the experience, talent and depth of our Safety unit. This particular defense is dependent on the play of the safeties. Given elite safety play, this defense becomes lethal. With last year serving as a transition this year's safeties are poised for a coming out party type campaign. The CB position is good. Not terrible, not elite but steady. Now getting this unit(CB) to take a collective step forward in development will allow the defense to be stingier, more disruptive and a heck of a lot of fun to watch.
 
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FrancisSaywer said:
I agree with everything you wrote and in fact I have posted the exact same thoughts on several occasions.

My stop just stop post was not in defense of Ragone or Baker playing him. It was me saying that I don't want to hear Ragone's name mentioned because he has zero business getting any reps over our scholarship players in games or in practice.
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Ok my bad. I thought you didnt want me ragging on baker, as if its not justified. I want all Canes to be successful however we have to call it how we see it. Guy has alot to prove.
 
KOOLAID4L said:
My thing Is he was being recruited to run the def at LSU so if they reaching out after the season we had what does that tell you? They could have anyone on def as a coach but they picked him to come do an interview. The man has some skills he just got to get the weapons and the guys have to understand the def. I seen to many broke plays bc the def didn't do there assignment period. Just wait when they start hitting on all cylinders its going to be fast playin
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It tells you Eddie O is a crack head.

It also tells you B Baker got some freaky deaky snaps and vids of LSU BoT members.

Word.

😀
 
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NorthEastCane said:
Of course we were fighting from behind … because the defense was giving up points not the offense. Which game, other that VT, was the offense giving up points and putting the defense in a hole? The answer, none. The defense gave them up on their own. That's the nature of the game, the defense has to hold them and get off the field until the offense gets going.

That's not to say the offense didn't make it difficult on the defense, it did. But don't talk like the defense was blameless. Those few times that the offense did their part, in key downs, the defense gave it back. And that's the issue. We weren't high in 3 and outs. Last year, we were 41st in 3rd down defense and 123rd in 4 down. The year before it was even worst, we were 75th in 3rd down. I wouldn't call that "usually high".
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Dude, the only team in the BCS worse than Miami was Akron. Our offense was #129 out of 130 on third down conversions. 2 out of 3 opening drives against UNC we went 3 and out. After the opening drive against Florida, our next 2 drives we went 3 and out. Opening drive in second half we went 3 and out. I can go on.

Not once did I ever say the defense was blameless. But the defense improves significantly with a competent offense. This was the worse Miami offense in 44 years. That being said and despite that we win 9 games last year if Miami had a kicking game. Short miss against Florida means we had to score a touchdown at the end, blocked kick and miss against UNC, two misses against Georgia Tech in the 4th quarter. And I was in that stadium when Baxa missed that extra point against Virginia Tech. That kid took the wind out of the stadium and the team. Never seen anything like it.
 
sstcane said:
Rousseau actually excelled rushing from O tech. People don’t realize that even in the early 90’s we would run 3 man fronts on 3rd downs at times.

GR had an injured back in camp which caused him to play coming off the bench to start the year.

The Ragone over Brooks vs GT is still a head scratcher.

Having LB’s healthy and more depth at safety should really help ST. Last year I remember seeing a lot of walk ons playing.

Even though we are running spread, I think it will benefit the D. Our 3rd down offence was one of the worst in the country. Also how many bone head turnovers did we have in our own end.

I have a feeling we will be much better than what people are expecting this year. We lost so many close games last year with a trash Enos O and no kicking game.
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Pretty sure I saw somewhere recently that we didn't attempt a FG outside 40 yards all year. Can't wait to see Jose put up some 3s. He is definitely a major and much needed addition to the squad.
 
Pentagon Cane said:
Dude, the only team in the BCS worse than Miami was Akron. Our offense was #129 out of 130 on third down conversions. 2 out of 3 opening drives against UNC we went 3 and out. After the opening drive against Florida, our next 2 drives we went 3 and out. Opening drive in second half we went 3 and out. I can go on.

Not once did I ever say the defense was blameless. But the defense improves significantly with a competent offense. This was the worse Miami offense in 44 years. That being said and despite that we win 9 games last year if Miami had a kicking game. Short miss against Florida means we had to score a touchdown at the end, blocked kick and miss against UNC, two misses against Georgia Tech in the 4th quarter. And I was in that stadium when Baxa missed that extra point against Virginia Tech. That kid took the wind out of the stadium and the team. Never seen anything like it.
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We're talking about defensive 3 & outs. That's what Baker has control over. I agree with the offensive 3 & outs. It gets wearing after a while but the defense still has to match with 3 & outs until the offense becomes untracked. It may not matter for much of schedule but it becomes critical when you up step up in competition.

There have been some calling our defense elite and cite tackles for loss and sacks. The defense is good but it's not elite until it can match up 3 & outs against anyone.
 
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NorthEastCane said:
We're talking about defensive 3 & outs. That's what Baker has control over. I agree with the offensive 3 & outs. It gets wearing after a while but the defense still has to match with 3 & outs until the offense becomes untracked. It may not matter for much of schedule but it becomes critical when you up step up in competition.

There have been some calling our defense elite and cite tackles for loss and sacks. The defense is good but it's not elite until it can match up 3 & outs against anyone.
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You are I am not. Our defense is good and it is good enough to beat anybody on our 2020 except Clemson if the offense is good.
 
Pentagon Cane said:
You are I am not. Our defense is good and it is good enough to beat anybody on our 2020 except Clemson if the offense is good.
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This whole thread is about Baker and the defense. If your going change gears and bring the offense into it provide a heads up when switching context. It was less than clear from your post.
 
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