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Bill O’Brien

Dwinstitles said:
Thank u a voice of reason....people still want rosters littered with 5th rounders. We need a guy that can coach and recruit. People think if u go to bama u learn how to recruit...nope that a relationship personality thing. U can't learn to be a people person u either have it or u don't ask Rumph. First round DB and no one wanted to be coached by him
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I think he did that out of spite. Who doesn't like the McNair family?🤷🏿‍♂️

But yea, nonetheless, he still did that.

He ain't my first choice, but rather him than Chud.
 
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Dwinstitles said:
Thank u a voice of reason....people still want rosters littered with 5th rounders. We need a guy that can coach and recruit. People think if u go to bama u learn how to recruit...nope that a relationship personality thing. U can't learn to be a people person u either have it or u don't ask Rumph. First round DB and no one wanted to be coached by him
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There are plenty of reasons to not be into the idea of O'Brien as HC material here but the Hopkins trade as a reason is one of the dumber ones I can imagine. Salary cap implications, contracts, locker room dynamics, in what universe can you reasonably compare NFL personnel decisions to high school recruiting? Come on man. I mean by that metric you wouldn't want Saban either I guess, unless you forget his disastrous stint with the dolphins.
 
Trav said:
There are plenty of reasons to not be into the idea of O'Brien as HC material here but the Hopkins trade as a reason is one of the dumber ones I can imagine. Salary cap implications, contracts, locker room dynamics, in what universe can you reasonably compare NFL personnel decisions to high school recruiting? Come on man. I mean by that metric you wouldn't want Saban either I guess, unless you forget his disastrous stint with the dolphins.
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Saban is the best recruiter in CFB i take him immediately over anybody, thats the difference
 
Liberty City El said:
Bill isn’t all that interested in being a college HC, he’s only being an OC for Bama because that’s what almost all legit fired coaches do when they’re looking for their job, they go do a year at the Bama coahcing repair factory & then they get hired to their next destination of where they really want to go.

Bill O’Brien wants to get back into NFL coaching, so he’s just doing what Brian Daboll did, take a year under Saban, then next year once the league has a bunch of firings & new openings he’ll get hired to be an OC on someone’s staff, or possibly even get a 2nd shot at being a HC.

I actually think O’Brien would be great for the Raiders as long as they don’t give him autonomy over player personnel lol
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He’s not getting a head gig in the NFL imo..and if LSU comes calling (and they will) I would bet anything he answers..and I also don’t think he’s going to take a OC Job even if it’s at the NFL level UNLESS he has a young stud or star at QB..and we all know those jobs just don’t open up. But if Miami gets Watson and clears house…a reunion?? Not likely lmao but Phins fans can dream
 
CaneSince4Ever said:
And Saban tucked His tail and ran to Tuscaloosa because of His awful organizational skills, but I want no parts of O'Brien though. I think USC would be a good spot for Him though.
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Kill that..you don’t build what Saban has..and had at LSU..LSU to this day was still dependent on the structure Saban built there. He’s probably the most organized Coach other than a select few in the NFL
 
Saban chose Culpepper over Drew Brees with the Dolphins. Take Saban off the list, DO NOT WANT.

Any coaching candidate is going to come with flaws, no denying that. O'Brien's biggest negative was when he was the coach/GM of a NFL team, which doesn't directly correlate to being a HC in the college ranks.

Is he my top choice? No, mostly because I think he'll jump ship to the NFL within 2-3 years but would be a huge upgrade here.
 
htownkidd said:
He wouldn’t give us the time of day and would never consider us but what does his lack of NFL GM ability have to do with him coaching a CFB program? Serious question?
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Mostly his my way or the highway approach seems like something that has worked well here recently. Also it would take a truly self-entitled *** hat to believe he could trade a top 3 WR for next to nothing. Hard pass.
 
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Canes Legacy said:
Saban chose Culpepper over Drew Brees with the Dolphins. Take Saban off the list, DO NOT WANT.

Any coaching candidate is going to come with flaws, no denying that. O'Brien's biggest negative was when he was the coach/GM of a NFL team, which doesn't directly correlate to being a HC in the college ranks.

Is he my top choice? No, mostly because I think he'll jump ship to the NFL within 2-3 years but would be a huge upgrade here.
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The Dolphins did that there bruh..
 
Dwinstitles said:
Saban is the best recruiter in CFB i take him immediately over anybody, thats the difference
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But if you were to judge his NFL personnel moves you wouldn't, unless you still think Culpepper over Brees was the right move. And that's exactly what you're doing with your O'Brien logic.
 
Trav said:
But if you were to judge his NFL personnel moves you wouldn't, unless you still think Culpepper over Brees was the right move. And that's exactly what you're doing with your O'Brien logic.
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Think Saban wanted Breese over Cul I heard that from posters here........O Brien needs talent everyone HC does at UM. UM is a recruiter based school IMO, when they were at their best it wasn't x and o's although we were good at it, it was always talent overall and thats proved by NFL production when our guys went there.
 
I can't see Bill O'Brien trying to recruit.
PSU was a stablished program, with an awful scandal, he didn't need to build sh*t there, stayed for 2 years and coached well the players that another coach recruited. CFB HC need to deal with people all the time (recruits, recruit/players families, HS coaches, Boosters, Admin), way more than NFL Coaches.

Trav said:
But if you were to judge his NFL personnel moves you wouldn't, unless you still think Culpepper over Brees was the right move. And that's exactly what you're doing with your O'Brien logic.
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Saban had won big at the CFB level, I don't understand why are you comparing him to O'Brien
 
Canes Device said:
I can't see Bill O'Brien trying to recruit.
PSU was a stablished program, with an awful scandal, he didn't need to build sh*t there, stayed for 2 years and coached well the players that another coach recruited. CFB HC need to deal with people all the time (recruits, recruit/players families, HS coaches, Boosters, Admin), way more than NFL Coaches.


Saban had won big at the CFB level, I don't understand why are you comparing him to O'Brien
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I'm not. I'm commenting on the idea that NFL personnel moves somehow relate to college recruiting. The Saban thing proves my point.
 
Dwinstitles said:
Think Saban wanted Breese over Cul I heard that from posters here........O Brien needs talent everyone HC does at UM. UM is a recruiter based school IMO, when they were at their best it wasn't x and o's although we were good at it, it was always talent overall and thats proved by NFL production when our guys went there.
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It wasn't just Brees. He made a lot of personnel decisions in Miami that were questionable at best. And his success at the college level proves my point. The 2 aren't comparable.
 
Saban choose Culpepper over Brees for health reasons. Even he admits, in hindsight, it was the wrong decision, and he might have stayed at the Fins and never left for Bama (his own words). A lot of teams passed on Brees, he was a FA IIRC.

O‘Brien would be an upgrade, but I’d pass because the Canes would likely looking for an new HC in 2-3 seasons.
 
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Canes Device said:
I can't see Bill O'Brien trying to recruit.
PSU was a stablished program, with an awful scandal, he didn't need to build sh*t there, stayed for 2 years and coached well the players that another coach recruited. CFB HC need to deal with people all the time (recruits, recruit/players families, HS coaches, Boosters, Admin), way more than NFL Coaches.


Saban had won big at the CFB level, I don't understand why are you comparing him to O'Brien
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Bruh pedo state was established as what? The 4th best program in the big Ten?
 
Trav said:
But if you were to judge his NFL personnel moves you wouldn't, unless you still think Culpepper over Brees was the right move. And that's exactly what you're doing with your O'Brien logic.
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Drew Brees wasn't a potential Hall of Famer when he was a free agent this argument is trash.
 
Liberty City El said:
Most of the Bama diehards want Dabo to be the successor to Saban, because he’s from Birmingham & actually played at Bama, plus he understands how to build a program up to a high standard & maintain prolonged success.

But I think whenever Saban does retire they’ll go get someone from the NFL.
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I’m of the opinion that Saban is already creating some sort of robot body to accept his brain upon death, so he can continue on coaching to infinity & beyond, ala Richard Nixon being President on Futurama @Hogan
 
305to954 said:
He’s not getting a head gig in the NFL imo..and if LSU comes calling (and they will) I would bet anything he answers..and I also don’t think he’s going to take a OC Job even if it’s at the NFL level UNLESS he has a young stud or star at QB..and we all know those jobs just don’t open up. But if Miami gets Watson and clears house…a reunion?? Not likely lmao but Phins fans can dream
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I think we underestimate how stupid some NFL organizations are. LCE mentioned Raiders and I think that's honestly not a bad fit but O'Brien rubs a lot of people the wrong way and considering the whole Gruden thing...idk.

Teams potentially looking for HC next year: Raiders, Bears, Broncos, Jags, Lions.....maaaaaaybe Dolphins, Eagles, Giants.
Teams potentially looking for OC next year: All of the above + Steelers, Seahawks, Falcons, and others?

That's a lot of potential fits for O'Brien. Some with young QBs that are similar to Watson (Fields, Lawrence, Tua, Hurts). I wouldn't be surprised to see him back in the NFL next year.
 
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