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Big case today- athlete eligibility - Pavia vs NCAA

Colombie said:
I do not know how you interpreted getting an education, keeping good standing/ GPA and futher educating yourself as " failing 12th grade in perpetuity."

I guess that is an intelligent take that just flies way over my head.
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Clearly, it did go over your head. The example provided was to show that an individual can find reasons to stay in school forever, which isn't necessarily tied to any actual good-faith effort for an education. In college, you can just keep changing majors or taking electives. That would be an abuse of the system, and it seems just about everyone on here but you understands this hurts college football and kids looking for opportunity out of high school.

Based on your logic, what’s the point of having school affiliated athletics at all? Just make it like triple-A baseball.
 
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Colombie said:
I would put curriculum and grade restrictions. If someone is a full-time Grad Student and working towards making themselves better off the field and is in very good GPA standing within their potential field who am I to judge if they want to play sports?
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Go join a community football league.
 
pyhooya said:
Mario to Cam McCormick

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We could use his blocking…
 
404Usernamenotfound said:
Clearly, it did go over your head. The example provided was to show that an individual can find reasons to stay in school forever, which isn't necessarily tied to any actual good-faith effort for an education. In college, you can just keep changing majors or taking electives. That would be an abuse of the system, and it seems just about everyone on here but you understands this hurts college football and kids looking for opportunity out of high school.

Based on your logic, what’s the point of having school affiliated athletics at all? Just make it like triple-A baseball.
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There can be rules against abuses and standards and stipulations. I do not want the Wild West. But we have seen guys in their late 20s play.
 
Yoyo423 said:
www.sportico.com

Diego Pavia, NCAA to Dispute House Settlement in Eligibility Hearing

The hearing concerns the NCAA’s appeal of a ruling last December to grant Vanderbilt QB Diego Pavia a preliminary injunction to play this fall.
www.sportico.com www.sportico.com

The consequences of this case can be huge..Pavia is fighting for unlimited eligibility. The NCAA says the house settlement agrees to keep eligibility 5 years to play 4.

Not sure what college football will look like if Pavia wins.

"Pavia is a good example of a player who might want to remain a college athlete for as long as he can. Listed at 6-foot, Pavia would be relatively short for an NFL quarterback, who, USA Today has estimated, has an average height of 6-foot-3. But he has excelled for the Commodores and, now in his mid-20s, might be in his peak athletic years. Pavia is also knowledgeable at reading college defenses and has acquired other skills that come along with game experience. In June, Pavia revealed his market as a D-I football player: He said he was offered $4-$4.5 million by other colleges to transfer."
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It's what I speculated about. The last domino to fall would be eligibility.

And using Vince Young as an example, how much would UT have paid to keep him there from 2006-2016?
 
AtlAtty said:
This would create basically 2 professional football leagues. I would argue a minor league and major league except that some of the players in the “minor” league would make more than the players in the major league.
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Because one league is uncapped, it would have serious ramifications in the next NFL CBA. Probably a liquidation of the rookie salary cap for instance.
 
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CaneDawgCrew said:
Yeah NIL and the Portal have ruined the college football game.

I think for walk ins they should get an extra year because they lose the first year until trying out in the spring. They are not on the team so lose any development
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NIL and portal have saved college football from the super teams. CFB is no longer dominated by a few schools who were allowed to purchased a roster w under the table cash.
 
1mg of Epi said:
NIL and portal have saved college football from the super teams. CFB is no longer dominated by a few schools who were allowed to purchased a roster w under the table cash.
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I think it saved college football in general. Just five years ago Herbstreet was correctly calling out that it was bad for the sport that three of the same four teams in the CFB playoff would essentially be guaranteed to be in the same spot the following year. The sport was very predictable and its power structure ossified.
 
1mg of Epi said:
NIL and portal have saved college football from the super teams. CFB is no longer dominated by a few schools who were allowed to purchased a roster w under the table cash.
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That’s your take. Under the table cash? You mean bags? Grow up it happened. No different at any school some get caught some didn’t.

Look at the top 10…that just freakin shattered your own hypothesis. Same schools new year.

There is no longer the need to develop anybody. It depends on your coach but some schools don’t rotate because they want to keep the players getting paid happy. It’s a cluster ****.
 
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CaneDawgCrew said:
That’s your take. Under the table cash? You mean bags? Grow up it happened. No different at any school some get caught some didn’t.

Look at the top 10…that just freakin shattered your own hypothesis. Same schools new year.

There is no longer the need to develop anybody. It depends on your coach but some schools don’t rotate because they want to keep the players getting paid happy. It’s a cluster ****.
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There’s no longer a need to develop? Weird take.
 
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1mg of Epi said:
There’s no longer a need to develop? Weird take.
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Not if you have a brain.

There is this thing called NIL and portal. You play the players getting money. Some so they earn it. Others so they won’t leave you. The other kids? Sit. In December you go back to the portal and get your new starters. First hand experience.

The only thing weird was you saying this **** has saved college football. This is NFL free agency garbage. Any kid second string or lower is screwed.
 
CaneDawgCrew said:
Not if you have a brain.

There is this thing called NIL and portal. You play the players getting money. Some so they earn it. Others so they won’t leave you. The other kids? Sit. In December you go back to the portal and get your new starters. First hand experience.

The only thing weird was you saying this **** has saved college football. This is NFL free agency garbage. Any kid second string or lower is screwed.
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You are half right.

NIL is not the issue. NIL allows other teams to compete, compensates players, and spreads out the talent.

The portal is the issue. An unregulated portal let's it get out of control with tampering, constant blackmailing of coaches, skyrocketing numbers, and zero loyalty. If you put controls on the portal and require a minimum 2-years at a single school, it calms down the wild west. I'm hoping getting rid of the spring portal will help considerably. These kids bouncing each semester is just not good for anyone involved and I'd say those who do have a pretty bad track record of success.
 
Colombie said:
College football is changing. We are in an NIL and Transfer Portal era. Grown men have the right to make money and play college athletics as long as they are in good standing and educating themselves. I see no problem with it.
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Troll of the Week Award
 
GojiraCane said:
I think it saved college football in general. Just five years ago Herbstreet was correctly calling out that it was bad for the sport that three of the same four teams in the CFB playoff would essentially be guaranteed to be in the same spot the following year. The sport was very predictable and its power structure ossified.
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@1mg of Epi

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Same teams so this parity crap is just made up.

In 2020 the top 15 included…

8. Cincy
9. Iowa State
10. Northwestern
14 Coastal Carolina
15 Louisiana
17 Liberty
23 Ball State
24 San Jose State
25 Buffalo
Appalachian State (NR but next up.)
Tulsa
Army
Oregon

It has done the opposite. You now have a super league of those with money. Smaller schools may be good for a year but then their players ARE being poached.
 
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