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If those teams did reach out as we are hearing then the FSU snub has far reaching effects. The ACC just needs to die and go away. between the SEC, B10 and Big 12, there is room for the bigger brands with the few left going to lower conferences, AAC, Conference USA, etc...
 
If those teams did reach out as we are hearing then the FSU snub has far reaching effects. The ACC just needs to die and go away. between the SEC, B10 and Big 12, there is room for the bigger brands with the few left going to lower conferences, AAC, Conference USA, etc...
the acc is a low tier p5 conference. it was the worst football p5 conference in the sport this year and it really wasnt close. hoepfully it just becomes a hoops conference and moves on and we can find a new football home.
 
the acc is a low tier p5 conference. it was the worst football p5 conference in the sport this year and it really wasnt close. hoepfully it just becomes a hoops conference and moves on and we can find a new football home.

The Big East basketball fan in me is loving every moment of this. ACC raided the conference in hopes to be premier. Now it is degenerating into a basketball conference, like it has always been.

Hopefully we don't end up in the Big 12, but I'd be lying if a part of me doesn't think we will.
 
the acc is a low tier p5 conference. it was the worst football p5 conference in the sport this year and it really wasnt close. hoepfully it just becomes a hoops conference and moves on and we can find a new football home.
Big 12 was way worse.

ACC had a winning record against SEC and Big 10. You’re stuck in a different year.
 
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the acc is a low tier p5 conference. it was the worst football p5 conference in the sport this year and it really wasnt close. hoepfully it just becomes a hoops conference and moves on and we can find a new football home.
Don't let facts get in your way.......

The ACC held a record of 6-4 against the SEC in interconference play during the 2023 regular season. That advantage included a 2-0 mark posted by Florida State, which won its games against LSU and Florida during its 13-0 season. It was 4 and 3 against the Big 10 and the only power five conference with a winning record against the other four big conferences..................
 
FSU doesn’t go undefeated in the B10, B12, PAC-10, or SEC. The ACC “TEAMS” are the reason FSU is left out and the ONLY reason FSU went undefeated in the first place.
is that why the big 12 has undefeated teams every year and always makes the playoff / wins the title?
 
Does anyone think a Big 12 team not named Texas or Oklahoma is getting in the CFP?
Considering the new format is each P5 champion plus the highest G5 team (followed by the next 6 best teams), yes. The BIG 12 winner is automatically in, and a one or two-loss runner-up would have a shot at an 11 or 12 seed.

Although they’re likely to adjust due to the demise of the PAC-12.
 
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Pretty much every P5 conference is top heavy. There was a huge gap between Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State and everyone else in the BIg10. UGA and Bama were a step above the SEC with Ole Miss and LSU being in the second tier. Washington and Oregon in the PAC and Texas/OU in the Big 12. The ACC's problem was FSU was the only premier team in the league this year. Louisville tried to be that second team but getting beaten by Kentucky and FSU without a quarterback sent them back to reality.
 
Big 12 was way worse.

ACC had a winning record against SEC and Big 10. You’re stuck in a different year.
Thanks., I had to get a muhfucca told just yesterday about this ****. People think the ACC stinks, but what they don't realize, is that the conference is pretty tough. It's just sooo competitive. We don't have a UGA, ALA, and LSU,.... multiple schools, at the top, that beat up on errybody else in conference. The only team we've had that was thought of as being pretty good in the past 10 years, out of the ACC, would be Clemson. The "Problem" with the ACC is that week to week, anybody can get beat, by anybody else. So from the outside looking in, it makes it look like our top teams are garbage. "Man, y'all let GTech beat y'all? And y'all the same team that beat aTm?" The truth is, that our mid level teams, and bottom dwellers teams, are pretty **** solid.
 
Don't let facts get in your way.......

The ACC held a record of 6-4 against the SEC in interconference play during the 2023 regular season. That advantage included a 2-0 mark posted by Florida State, which won its games against LSU and Florida during its 13-0 season. It was 4 and 3 against the Big 10 and the only power five conference with a winning record against the other four big conferences..................
Agree, but this is an anomaly and isn't a trend, at least not yet
 
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