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Empirical Cane said:
I can see the isolation strategy... đź‘Ť

Here's the risk...at the merge that is CFBPO, the SEC team(s) run a train on everyone else...

Makes the other conferences look even weaker...

then again.... as CFBPO is likely going to adopt the NBAs "every team gets in to include a few clubs from Eastern Europe" model, the second act is going to (as it should) be a great ride of win or go home.
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Easy solution. Don't let the SEC participate in their CFBPO. If the SEC wants to continue to try to run the sport, cheat, and stack the deck in their favor, the other conferences should play hardball and end it for the SEC.
 
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Before cable TV, college football was a regional sport. There were one or two nationally televised games a week. When they went national, the amount of revenue went through the roof. The SEC may be inadvertently turning college football back into a regional sport. If the other major conferences decide to team up and shut out the SEC, they will essentially be playing only to their respective markets again. That’s not a good move considering outside of the Texas teams, the rest of the league plays in small markets.
 
Canes1968 said:
Easy solution. Don't let the SEC participate in their CFBPO. If the SEC wants to continue to try to run the sport, cheat, and stack the deck in their favor, the other conferences should play hardball and end it for the SEC.
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So, the new Alliance will have their own CFBPO excluding the SEC?

I love where this is going...

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1) Don't schedule SEC anymore, let them harness their inner inbred. They can **** each other over and over which will be boring to viewers.
2) Vote to keep a 4 team playoff, winner of each conference (assuming Big 12 dies) makes it or something similar to completely **** the SEC. This would be huge as they couldn't get in multiple teams which is 100% their plan.
3) Increase revenue through tv contracts, this might get tricky since the last ACC guy was a ******* moron who did a **** *** 20 year deal, but something could.be done.
4) Try to get away from ESPN, they haven't acted in good faith to anyone outside the SEC. I'm not a lawyer but you might be able to even break the tv contract using that as the reason?
5) Try to get ND to increase revenue
6) Have some rules implemented which would make it impossible for the SEC to snag anymore good schools from these conferences.
7) Light dog**** on Sankey's porch.
8) Blow FSU up for slurping SEC balls
 
Andy Staples did an interesting article in the Athletic about what they could be trying do. It's nothing new from a lot of what has been discussed in here (make a scheduling alliance), but what was interesting was the number behind it.

He looked at the number of games between 2015-2019 and took note of any 'Four Million Club' games (defined as having more than 4 million viewers) - supposedly 4M+ viewer games is 'meter-moving' data point when negotiating TV contracts. There where 193 games that qualified and this is how they broke down:
  • 58 games between either independents or teams from different conferences (including all five Army-Navy games played during that period)
  • 55 SEC-only games
  • 49 Big Ten-only games
  • 13 ACC-only games
  • 12 Big 12-only games
  • Five Pac-12-only games
  • One American Athletic Conference-only game (2017 South Florida at UCF)
And this is how if broke down by team:

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The idea here would obviously be to setup home and home games to create more 'Four Million Club' games. Definitely an interesting idea.

Other takeaways:
- The gap between the number of conference only 4M+ games that the SEC and Big10 have vs everyone else (including the ACC) is gigantic
- The ACC at only 13 4M+ conference games is depressing (although probably not unexpected if you look at the state of the conference over the last 5 years)
- For as much as we like to talk about how Miami draws ratings, we aren't (at the least) in the top 13
- I can't believe how many games Michigan has over 4M. I know they have a huge fanbase, but considering how poorly they performed during that span...

Overall the article is pretty interesting and suggest reading the whole thing if you have an Athletic subscription

theathletic.com

Why would the Big Ten form an alliance with the ACC and Pac-12? It's all about TV's 'Four Million Club'

One way for conferences to get as much money as possible from TV? Get matchups that draw 4,000,000+.
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DTP said:
Before cable TV, college football was a regional sport. There were one or two nationally televised games a week. When they went national, the amount of revenue went through the roof. The SEC may be inadvertently turning college football back into a regional sport. If the other major conferences decide to team up and shut out the SEC, they will essentially be playing only to their respective markets again. That’s not a good move considering outside of the Texas teams, the rest of the league plays in small markets.
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Yes, but...

Win and everyone can consume what you are selling right? There are 500 channels streaming at your eyeballs 24/7.

People on South Beach could get Wash St content if they were dominant winners...

Am I off?

I'm not against the isolation to bring them to heel strategy, but the "Alliance" must totally dominate the CFBPO season for it to work.

Right or wromg, Sankey isn't losing sleep.

Also, as much of a beta little doiche he is, Emmert is in the SEC tribe via LSU correct?
 
Canes1968 said:
That hurts the SEC and only the SEC, and does nothing but help the other conferences. If each of these 3 conferences moved to a 9 game conference schedule and each conference agreed that 2 of the nonconference games would be against teams in the other 2 conferences with 1 cupcake against a Group of 5 conference, that would result in more money for all of those conferences and the SEC would be stuck with zero marquee matchups outside of it's own conference. If you can't see how that hurts the SEC and helps everyone else, then you know nothing about sports.

To make it even more of a hit to the SEC and a benefit to these 3 conferences, these PAC/BIG/ACC challenge games should all be scheduled for the 2nd and 3rd weekends of the season. All eyes of college football fans would be on these 3 conferences for 2 weeks in a row and nobody would be paying attention to the SEC and their rinky dinky little league. I'd be willing to bet that any of ESPN, FoxSports, or the streaming options would be willing to pay top dollar for the exclusive rights to those two weekends and would almost certainly be willing to pay exit fees for existing nonconference games in order to make this type of scheduling a reality immediately.
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I agree with most of what you said but i would put the big games on the weekends the SEC has big games all across the season. Go head to head with them. USC v Miami, a game i have never seen against SEC games u see quite often etc etc. Big draw if one team is unranked but humoungous if both are ranked. Also would help each league getting teams into the playoffs over SEC schools who OOC schedule would be watered
 
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My concern is that The Aliance appears to be pro-NCAA while the Empire, err, SEC wants a new order of the universe.
 
One thing i will say about those SEC only games all their big games are played on local tv, same for the big 10. ACC has had alot of their all ACC games at 3:30 on ESPN.
 
supacane said:
One thing i will say about those SEC only games all their big games are played on local tv, same for the big 10. ACC has had alot of their all ACC games at 3:30 on ESPN.
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I realize that I may live in a bubble on this, but how many people watching the games have local channels, but don't have ESPN?
 
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I'd like our "SEC East" schedule to look something like this each season:
  • UF
  • FSU
  • Clemson
  • Georgia
  • Georgia Tech
  • NC State
  • South Carolina
  • Tennessee
  • Virginia Tech
We have zero legitimate excuses for not being one of the best programs in CFB year in and year out if we're in an elite conference.

Let's play the best and reap all the benefits — financial, recruiting, fan interest and media attention — that come with it.
 
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Hold My Beer said:
I'd like our "SEC" East schedule to look something like this each season:
  • UF
  • FSU
  • Clemson
  • Georgia
  • Georgia Tech
  • NC State
  • South Carolina
  • Tennessee
  • Virginia Tech
We have zero legitimate excuses for not being one of the best programs in CFB year in and year out if we're in an elite conference.

Let's play the best and reap all the benefits — financial, recruiting, fan interest and media attention — that come with it.
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That would require bags beyond what we already drop.
 
90scane said:
That would require bags beyond what we already drop.
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Conference realignment is not to a time to think small or focus on shortcomings.

We'd be moving to a much better neighborhood.

Bigger bags would follow.
 
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Shogungts said:
I realize that I may live in a bubble on this, but how many people watching the games have local channels, but don't have ESPN?
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Don't know but i know alot of older people especially don't watch cable but watch the local channels.
 
There are roughly 5M in Alabama that don't even know what Cable is but they sure as F won't miss the Bama or Auburn game every week! If you haven't been down there then you should take a drive to see how they live in the 1800s with some modern comforts. By some modern comforts, I mean clothes, cars, AC, and a TV to watch college football. Some get to go to a dentist.
 
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