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da truth said:
Smart if big 10, pac 12 and acc refuse to schedule games against sec as part as the alliance
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This has to happen. Not sure what FSU does with Florida because of the law. They mentioned lawsuits by chance here where the gaytor fans are underestimating the power of this alliance in being able to compete with them.

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da truth said:
Smart if big 10, pac 12 and acc refuse to schedule games against sec as part as the alliance
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This thought crossed my mind, as well. This would be disastrous for the SEC, as with time, people will become less interested in a 12 team league that doesn’t play teams elsewhere that is relevant. From a marketing standpoint, this is no bueno.

If I’m a player, with the NIL and NFL, I want my brand/name to get exposure nationwide, not just in the south.
 
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RVACane said:
This has to happen. Not sure what FSU does with Florida because of the law. They mentioned lawsuits by chance here where the gaytor fans are underestimating the power of this alliance in being able to compete with them.

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I think some of you are missing what they are trying to do by forming an alliance and i could be wrong.

So my reading of it was they were gonna keep their conferences, the PAC, ACC and BIG. But then they form an alliance with scheduling corporations and then off that they may have inter conference games such as Miami v Ohio, Michigan v USC etc. Then they can maybe get a separate tv contract for all those games and that will be added to the money they get from their respective conference contracts.

And biggest of all these conferences vote as a bloc and in essence form a walla against the SEC aggression.
Thats how i read it so i could be wrong. Not the first time. I never got the sense they were trying to form 1, 48 team league or whatever i seen being talked about.
 
supacane said:
I think some of you are missing what they are trying to do by forming an alliance and i could be wrong.

So my reading of it was they were gonna keep their conferences, the PAC, ACC and BIG. But then they form an alliance with scheduling corporations and then off that they may have inter conference games such as Miami v Ohio, Michigan v USC etc. Then they can maybe get a separate tv contract for all those games and that will be added to the money they get from their respective conference contracts.

And biggest of all these conferences vote as a bloc and in essence form a walla against the SEC aggression.
Thats how i read it so i could be wrong. Not the first time. I never got the sense they were trying to form 1, 48 team league or whatever i seen being talked about.
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Ive always liked the idea or having an ACC v B10 game every year just like in basketball. Now you can incorporate an ACC v B10 v Pac
 
Empirical Cane said:
Question: Why would this "superleague" be paid more per member as a whole, than what their proto-component (i.e. PAC12, B1G, and ACC) members are being paid now?

If anything, the payout could be less due to the dilution of a greater number of weaker names/teams than what the SEC is facing right now.

Hence is why SEC is cherry picking who to allow to sit at rhe head table rather than come one come all.
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Supply and demand. Say Fox, ABC, and NBC all want to air college football. With 5 conferences separate, they can bid on any of the five. With only two tv deals (sec and alliance) but more than two bidding networks, some TV network is getting left out in the cold. To avoid being that network, they could start a bidding war.
 
This “alliance” looks like nothing more than a show. A way for the AD’s and conferences to say “hey look we did something” while actually doing nothing.

I haven’t read anything about this being a combined TV contract, or about freezing the SEC out of scheduling, or anything else mentioned in this thread that would actually have teeth.

Just seems like a dog and pony show, and probably they will kill off the 12 team playoff…but that’s it.
 
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RightSaidFred said:
This “alliance” looks like nothing more than a show. A way for the AD’s and conferences to say “hey look we did something” while actually doing nothing.

I haven’t read anything about this being a combined TV contract, or about freezing the SEC out of scheduling, or anything else mentioned in this thread that would actually have teeth.

Just seems like a dog and pony show, and probably they will kill off the 12 team playoff…but that’s it.
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I mean I get what you are saying but things are happening pretty quickly right now I’m sure. They will get to all of this stuff eventually in my view.
 
RightSaidFred said:
This “alliance” looks like nothing more than a show. A way for the AD’s and conferences to say “hey look we did something” while actually doing nothing.

I haven’t read anything about this being a combined TV contract, or about freezing the SEC out of scheduling, or anything else mentioned in this thread that would actually have teeth.

Just seems like a dog and pony show, and probably they will kill off the 12 team playoff…but that’s it.
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My man you’re wrong. Everything in college football is about the TV contract. Everything. And two of these conferences have the right deals coming up. There’s literally no chance this does not involve what could happen in a new TV deal collectively or partially.
 
RightSaidFred said:
This “alliance” looks like nothing more than a show. A way for the AD’s and conferences to say “hey look we did something” while actually doing nothing.

I haven’t read anything about this being a combined TV contract, or about freezing the SEC out of scheduling, or anything else mentioned in this thread that would actually have teeth.

Just seems like a dog and pony show, and probably they will kill off the 12 team playoff…but that’s it.
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The expanded playoff (12-teams or whatever it ends up being) will be in place long after the ACC has dropped to whatever tier the Big XII will soon occupy.

We need to do whatever we need to do to end up in the SEC or the B1G and not be fooled into thinking some half-baked plan by the league office in Greensboro is gonna save the day.
 
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Empirical Cane said:
And who does that really help?

Who does that really hurt?
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That hurts the SEC and only the SEC, and does nothing but help the other conferences. If each of these 3 conferences moved to a 9 game conference schedule and each conference agreed that 2 of the nonconference games would be against teams in the other 2 conferences with 1 cupcake against a Group of 5 conference, that would result in more money for all of those conferences and the SEC would be stuck with zero marquee matchups outside of it's own conference. If you can't see how that hurts the SEC and helps everyone else, then you know nothing about sports.

To make it even more of a hit to the SEC and a benefit to these 3 conferences, these PAC/BIG/ACC challenge games should all be scheduled for the 2nd and 3rd weekends of the season. All eyes of college football fans would be on these 3 conferences for 2 weeks in a row and nobody would be paying attention to the SEC and their rinky dinky little league. I'd be willing to bet that any of ESPN, FoxSports, or the streaming options would be willing to pay top dollar for the exclusive rights to those two weekends and would almost certainly be willing to pay exit fees for existing nonconference games in order to make this type of scheduling a reality immediately.
 
supacane said:
That would not work. The best they could do is dont schedule regular season games with them while putting big games among he 3 conferences on big SEC weekends.
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They absolutely could completely eliminate games against the SEC (except maybe those games required by state law). Those 3 conferences have plenty of fire power to dictate bowl matchups.
 
2FNFST4U said:
Just isolate the SEC. No bowl games against them and no non con games with them.
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No bowl games against them would not be wise. However no regular season games against them can work to our advantage. The SEC would have to give up those Chick-fil-A kickoff games that start the season because the ACC, PaC12, and BIG10 will be able to have the better matchups. More money for us, less for the SEC.
 
Canes1968 said:
That hurts the SEC and only the SEC, and does nothing but help the other conferences. If each of these 3 conferences moved to a 9 game conference schedule and each conference agreed that 2 of the nonconference games would be against teams in the other 2 conferences with 1 cupcake against a Group of 5 conference, that would result in more money for all of those conferences and the SEC would be stuck with zero marquee matchups outside of it's own conference. If you can't see how that hurts the SEC and helps everyone else, then you know nothing about sports.

To make it even more of a hit to the SEC and a benefit to these 3 conferences, these PAC/BIG/ACC challenge games should all be scheduled for the 2nd and 3rd weekends of the season. All eyes of college football fans would be on these 3 conferences for 2 weeks in a row and nobody would be paying attention to the SEC and their rinky dinky little league. I'd be willing to bet that any of ESPN, FoxSports, or the streaming options would be willing to pay top dollar for the exclusive rights to those two weekends and would almost certainly be willing to pay exit fees for existing nonconference games in order to make this type of scheduling a reality immediately.
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I can see the isolation strategy... 👍

Here's the risk...at the merge that is CFBPO, the SEC team(s) run a train on everyone else...

Makes the other conferences look even weaker...

then again.... as CFBPO is likely going to adopt the NBAs "every team gets in to include a few clubs from Eastern Europe" model, the second act is going to (as it should) be a great ride of win or go home.
 
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