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BCS vs CFP 11/12/19

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dk72 said:
So Penn State "is about to be a two loss team" and "might" lose to Iowa State.....but you think Auburn is great despite being a two loss team already, barely skating by a crappy Ole Miss team (only 6 pt win, since you are big on criticizing for not blowing out bad teams), beating a weak 3-loss Texas A&M team by only 8 points, and likely has two more losses coming.....but Auburn is a quality top 15 opponent? Again, clearly because they are in the SEC....as that seems to be justification enough for you.
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This guy shilling for the SEC for 8 pages is amazing. Even more amazing when you consider he's been talking directly out of his *** for all 8 pages.

Auburn a quality team? They have on of the most anemic offenses in the nation. Also, PSU has objectively the more impressive season this year compared to any of the 1 loss SEC teams but he's unable to come to grips with that because of all the SEC ***** in his eyes.
 
305to954 said:
Then your point makes no sense
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Then I'll explain again. Vegas relies on people who look at the board and think "Baylor? They suck" or "Alabama's got a great defense, take the under". Instead of using real metrics, marginal football fans use the eyeball test.
 
dk72 said:
That's only supposed to be a factor of last resort. Having better wins is supposed to carry FAR more weight over margin of victory and eyeball tests.
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^^ This wins and losses is the cake while the other factors should be the icing
 
305to954 said:
I’d rather the 4 most talented teams in, unless they absolutely have a resume that’s not worthy..so if Bama s only loss is LSU..I would take them over Utah and Minnesota in heartbeat. You can’t tell me from what u seen/know is on Bamas roster that Utah and Minnesota are better..eye test matters
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By “eye test” you mean how many 5 star players they got ? Bama has ZERO quality wins right now
 
305to954 said:
Have you watched both teams? Do you think Minnesota is better than Alabama..unless u just hating on Bama nobody outside of the state of Minnesota believes the golphers have looked better than Bama ..nobody said anything about recruiting rankings..only 4 teams get in. Therefore make it the best 4..if bamas only blemish is LSU, Who is the number 1 ranked team, losing by 5, then yes I’d put them in before a 1 loss Minnesota. Unless Minnesota runs the table and beats OSU..if both teams presumably have 1 loss, Bama should be in..no chance for Utah..
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Right now they have a better resume period. You probably thought PSU was better than Minnesota too
 
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***-e-skr said:
Have you seen what Clemson has on their schedule? It's almost criminal the conference schedule they play every year.
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305to954 said:
the bolded is my point..and Oregon and Utah’s wins and the fashion they have won does not impress me. If and when Bama goes out and smashes AU how will that impressive Oregon win look then? If Bama was squeaking by the teams Oregon, Minnesota, Utah were you’d hold it against them I’m sure..all in all it’s a lot of Bama fatigue. That’s natural. I’m about seeing the best 4 get in. And if that means a 1 loss Bama then I’m for it
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I’m all about the 4 teams with the best resume getting in not something subjective like who someone thinks are the best 4 teams
 
Rellyrell said:
What.Are.You.Talking.About?

I’m SPECIFICALLY talking about FSU being put over Miami in the National Championship game by the computer.

****, even ESPN’s “College Football 150 years” special JUST said that the BCS was a fine model UNTIL 2000, in which FSU was chosen over Miami, a team that beat them in the regular season, and the ONLY team to beat the #1, #2 teams and left out. Also, they argued that since Miami beat the #1, #2, and #6 team in the nation, based upon the BCS metrics, Miami should’ve been at least co champions. which brings the same flaw to the 2003 BCS co-champions which were USC & LSU. The BCS was supposed to eliminate co-champions, and that’s exactly what it did in 2003 w SC & LSU.

The BCS was horrible and the trend started w us, ironically.
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I was responding to the conversation below


jackedaround said:
Bcs is far more accurate. What sucked was only two teams. If the bcs led to a 4 team playoff it would never be wrong. Never ever.

Rellyrell said:
May I direct ur attention to the 2000 National Championship game?
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I read his comment to mean that a four team scenario under the BCS (i.e. basically let the computers do what the committee now does) that it would never be wrong. While I didn't agree with that completely, I gave it merit. I then read your response to say that the 2000 Championship game was evidence that he was wrong. I disagreed with your post and pointed to the fact that in a four team BCS computer poll era, we would have had our opportunity to win it on the field. The only question would be should we be seeded 2, 3, or 4.. Which wouldn't really matter because we would end up playing one or two rematches regardless and would need to prove that we were better on the field.

While I agree that we shouldn't have been left out of the championship game that season under the old formula, I still didn't agree with your reply being valid to disprove the point that the OP was trying to make.

I think we're in agreement on a majority of the points, but we differ on what we view the OP to mean.
 
mikedeep97 said:
I was responding to the conversation below




I read his comment to mean that a four team scenario under the BCS (i.e. basically let the computers do what the committee now does) that it would never be wrong. While I didn't agree with that completely, I gave it merit. I then read your response to say that the 2000 Championship game was evidence that he was wrong. I disagreed with your post and pointed to the fact that in a four team BCS computer poll era, we would have had our opportunity to win it on the field. The only question would be should we be seeded 2, 3, or 4.. Which wouldn't really matter because we would end up playing one or two rematches regardless and would need to prove that we were better on the field.

While I agree that we shouldn't have been left out of the championship game that season under the old formula, I still didn't agree with your reply being valid to disprove the point that the OP was trying to make.

I think we're in agreement on a majority of the points, but we differ on what we view the OP to mean.
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Understood, boss.
 
The selection committee is tripping for having Baylor at 13.... they’re undefeated regardless of competition. No 2 loss team should be ahead of them just by default until they lose.
 
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KrazyCane said:
The selection committee is tripping for having Baylor at 13.... they’re undefeated regardless of competition. No 2 loss team should be ahead of them just by default until they lose.
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I hope Baylor and Minnesota both win out to see how the committee would justify leaving them out.

Baylor would need to beat OU twice.

Minnesota needs to beat a very good Iowa and Wisconsin team and then beat OSU.

If that dream scenario happened I think Alabama still gets the 4 spot.

Playoff Rankings would be
1LSU
2 Clemson
3. Minnesota
4. Alabama
5. Baylor
6. Oregon
7. UGA

That would be true chaos and I hope they both can make it happen so we see if the committee is biased
 
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