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Barkate needs more targets

TerragonSix said:
Alvin Harper was NOT Micheal Irvin. But Alvin Harper was a great #2 receiver.

Barkarte is NOT Toney. But he can be a great #2 receiver.
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Barkate wishes he could win 1 on 1 matchups like Alvin Harper. Expecting him to do something outside of his skill set is going to only lead us to inefficiency and disappointment.

I watched every single one of his catches at Duke. I encourage others to do the same. It’s one thing to look at stats and think they’ll just transfer. It’s another thing to look at the plays for those stats and see if we are likely to create the same scenarios.

I was told about his yards per catch and long play against Clemson. So I watched. It was a broken play that free’d him by design. Then we ask or expect him to just dominate an outside corner? Doesn’t make sense. I’d have to see him get much cleaner releases and separation to expect that. We’ll see.
 
LuCane said:
Barkate wishes he could win 1 on 1 matchups like Alvin Harper. Expecting him to do something outside of his skill set is going to only lead us to inefficiency and disappointment.

I watched every single one of his catches at Duke. I encourage others to do the same. It’s one thing to look at stats and think they’ll just transfer. It’s another thing to look at the plays for those stats and see if we are likely to create the same scenarios.

I was told about his yards per catch and long play against Clemson. So I watched. It was a broken play that free’d him by design. Then we ask or expect him to just dominate an outside corner? Doesn’t make sense. I’d have to see him get much cleaner releases and separation to expect that. We’ll see.
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Tbf, Alvin was winning 1 on 1 matchups with DB's that were not the best DB's on the field. Those DB's were covering Playmaker, lol.

That's what when he went to Tampa as a free agent he turned out to be a huge bust. He was not a #1. He was a solid #2.
 
LuCane said:
Barkate wishes he could win 1 on 1 matchups like Alvin Harper. Expecting him to do something outside of his skill set is going to only lead us to inefficiency and disappointment.

I watched every single one of his catches at Duke. I encourage others to do the same. It’s one thing to look at stats and think they’ll just transfer. It’s another thing to look at the plays for those stats and see if we are likely to create the same scenarios.

I was told about his yards per catch and long play against Clemson. So I watched. It was a broken play that free’d him by design. Then we ask or expect him to just dominate an outside corner? Doesn’t make sense. I’d have to see him get much cleaner releases and separation to expect that. We’ll see.
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I think the issue is Duke could figure it out, but we could not... against Wake Forest. We went into a shell and **** down our leg, after going conservative at the end of the first half instead of pushing the pedal. Frustrating.
 
TerragonSix said:
Tbf, Alvin was winning 1 on 1 matchups with DB's that were not the best DB's on the field. Those DB's were covering Playmaker, lol.

That's what when he went to Tampa as a free agent he turned out to be a huge bust. He was not a #1. He was a solid #2.
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I haven’t rewatched tonight, but I did focus on a few reps for Barkate when he was solo at the bottom of the formation. He didn’t separate quickly enough and Mensah went elsewhere. Maybe he improves that. I hope. Because we need someone to win outside. Call Cam Vaughn back or out Jacobs in. I don’t care what you do. Someone has to quickly win outside. And, yeah, we have to be willing to go vertical on early downs.
 
What was the issue with Toney? He looked fine running on and off for 3rd downs. Scared of that **** turf?
 
LuCane said:
He’s not that guy and I think you all were expecting something that doesn’t exist in his game. He needs to be a complementary WR running routes in designed matchups and combination patterns out of bunch, trips, etc. Watch all of his plays from last season at Duke. Many of them were from offensive design and leverage. A couple times tonight he was alone one one side of the formation and didn’t get clean releases.

So, before you all freak out, I agree he is solid, but he’s not a ‘consistently beat an outside CB’ type of WR. We need that to come from Moore or Jacobs or give Wingo a chance.

If Mali is limited, your offense cannot go into a shell. But, there’s a lot more to talk about our personnel grouping choices anyway.
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I hear you, I watched every Mensah throw also but Barkate didnt get 1100 yards on broken clemson play, if you gonna lock him in as starter, you have to find something to get him involved. And more than a screen. If he cant give you anything why is he starting? I find it hard to believe we cant find ANYTHING on film to get him involved.. This is not a good look..

We have no other WR that is able to produce than Mali? All of them cant beat a guy? We go from best wr core to no one can do anything if Mali is not available?
 
We spent all off-season talking about how talent our WR room has yet we still struggle to create separation.

How many deep shots did we take aside from the one or two we threw to Lofton (why was he our deep threat?)? The occasional deep shot to keep the defense honest especially in a 2 and manageable situation at least lots the DBs on their toes. Isn't Jacobs supposed to be that guy?

I'm curious to know what Wake was doing in the back end with their coverages in the second half, because whatever they were doing clearly made Mensah second guess what he was seeing
 
LuCane said:
Barkate wishes he could win 1 on 1 matchups like Alvin Harper. Expecting him to do something outside of his skill set is going to only lead us to inefficiency and disappointment.

I watched every single one of his catches at Duke. I encourage others to do the same. It’s one thing to look at stats and think they’ll just transfer. It’s another thing to look at the plays for those stats and see if we are likely to create the same scenarios.

I was told about his yards per catch and long play against Clemson. So I watched. It was a broken play that free’d him by design. Then we ask or expect him to just dominate an outside corner? Doesn’t make sense. I’d have to see him get much cleaner releases and separation to expect that. We’ll see.
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To be fair, every receiver gets open by design. No one is just lining up and beating their man constantly.
 
A good OC who could scheme guys open would help. Only Mali has an ability to consistently get open in the offense. Moore when he’s in maybe.

Not to mention Dawsons offense is entirely built around throwing to the slot
 
Notsince1985 said:
It's amazing how Dawson can go from genius to moron in 5 seconds
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