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Rellyrell said:
Hold on:

1. You said “u’ll take the opinion of someone who is going on campuses,” YET disqualify this same individual’s opinion of Binghamton, which is a Division-I team? Lmao

2. You think these articles were written by ppl who are just pulling **** from their ***?

3. Why is it “hating” when ppl have a differing opinion? Could I not classify u dismissing Binghamton as “hating?”

You provided a link that didn’t have Miami’s facilities Top 10, that’s ur bad. SD is an unbiased source, but to make believe we’re in the top 10, YOU decided to dismiss a fellow D-1 baseball program. Lmao

U made a comment, then posted a link that invalidated ur comment. Homie that’s on u; that has nothing to do w “herd-like-mentality” vs. calling out ur hubris.

If u feel that Miami has a top 10 facility, say that, but to:
-Act high & mighty
-Call out posters for saying we do not
-Have the audacity to not only post a link, but tell them google is free to fact check w ur chest out feeling the sunshine:

ONLY to prove them, via google & YOUR LINK that they were right, is the purist definition of insanity & borderline gaslighting.

Be better, & stop acting like Nick Wright for LeBron James. We’ve improved, yes, so take that as a W.
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My biggest problem with our facilities is how lazy constructed they are and shoehorned into the concourse. I hate that part of it every time I go there it’s like oh this is the only place this could fit so we put it right here. It feels unnatural. it doesn’t flow correctly. Even the fact that there’s no tunnel from the dugout to the locker room is weird. I know we don’t have much space because the stadium is set up on a corner, but I wish the concourse was a little bit more like UNC’s because they make great use of stretching the bleachers from home plate all the way around to each Side With chair back seating
 
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Jonnyblaze said:
They can certainly improve the facilities, but it’ll never be top 5. That would require expanding the footprint of the stadium, and that’s not happening.
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Was gonna say, they just dont have the room to make significant improvements and anything they did would be make-shift around existing structures. Here’s some of my dream items both for team and fan experiennce.
- huge 3story grand entrance taking up front open promenade, that expands over/around the team locker room to other side where team gym is. Adding a fan experience proper hall of fame section, more coaching offices, expanded locker room/lounges, player nutrition/energy bar, film rooms, expanded gym, rehab space and new tech space. A/C the main concession area, modernize bathrooms.
- sound/shade canopy's for crowd
- enough money for facility staff/assistants/GA’s to make everything above function
 
Btw…Binghamtons facility is amazing. I’ve seen it in person. Great selling point for the types of kids they battle similar schools for

I haven’t been down to the stadium in several years. Why would ours be considered a top 10. I’d be interested to hear the improvements/upgrades over the last 10 years or so.
 
HurricanePhilly said:
Btw…Binghamtons facility is amazing. I’ve seen it in person. Great selling point for the types of kids they battle similar schools for

I haven’t been down to the stadium in several years. Why would ours be considered a top 10. I’d be interested to hear the improvements/upgrades over the last 10 years or so.
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Ours is nowhere near top 10. Not even close.
 
Some recent facility upgrades by ACC schools. I didn’t look at all of the teams in the conference so there could be others.

Clemson ($25m)
UNC ($26m)
Virginia ($18m)
VT ($20m)
GT ($14m)
UM ($11m)

General consensus seems to be we rank around 6 or 7 in the ACC in terms of stadium/facilities. We’d probably be mid-lower tier in the SEC. And of course there are some west coast programs and miscellaneous schools who have made big investments.
 
CandideCane said:
I know our Shakes will come out #1🤣

But seriously, you said “top10 baseball facility in the nation”, how would you rank them?

Go Canes‼
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What up @canesfan4508 ?

Why do you “dislike” our Shakes being #1?

I’m sure if you ask, they can make them slurpier for you.

As to facilities, forget the internet, OPEN YOUR EYES‼

And forget the excuse of “no land” cause that’s not going to change; SO be innovative and use our top ranked architectural canes to design something that’s transformative and sets a new standard.

Pretty certain that MasTec and their sub Lemartec

—currently building the Inter-Miami stadium and iirc also built the IPF and assume will do the expansion whenever that comes to pass—

would jump at the chance to be involved with the baseball facilities as well.

Do we have the resources, financial and otherwise, most of us would say for sure.

Now, do we have the Admin & BoT will to get it done?

Well, the jury definitely out BUT will say, like others have, that current Admin is the BEST SHOT we’ve had in a long stretch to bring the Program back to our rightful Blue Blood standing, like OBM reminds.

Go Canes‼
 
CANESCANES said:
What’s it going to take to be a Top 5 facilities?
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Top 5 gets bumped up to a new level every year. An educated guess - a one time commitment of $30-50M to catch up to the top 5 and then ongoing $5-10M infusions every few years to keep up.

The stadium is a magical/timeless experience. Incredible atmosphere, especially when the product is right. But if you want it on the top level there’s a big gap of some things we’re missing in the concourse, entrance, seating, capacity, outfield seating, suite, etc. and I’m not sure you can change the orientation of the stadium to fix a lot of it to that level

I’ve played/camped in 9 SEC stadiums (TN, SC, UK, Auburn, Alabama, LSU, Missouri, Vanderbilt, Georgia) and I think 6 ACC stadiums (Miami, UNC, NCST, UVA, VT, and GT). Granted, these were anywhere from 9-15 years ago, Miami was near the bottom of that list if I was ranking it unbiased. All have changed since then. Lindsey Nelson (Tennessee) was a **** hole my entire life, easily the bottom of my list of those 15, below Miami at that time, and now it’s getting bumped into the top 5. I would guess Miami is in the 25-30 range. Higher if you value tradition and novelty and not just flashiness.

It takes winning and commitment. Even when we were winning, like football, commitment to facilities and infrastructure wasn’t there.
 
JayCane20 said:
Top 5 gets bumped up to a new level every year. An educated guess - a one time commitment of $30-50M to catch up to the top 5 and then ongoing $5-10M infusions every few years to keep up.

The stadium is a magical/timeless experience. Incredible atmosphere, especially when the product is right. But if you want it on the top level there’s a big gap of some things we’re missing in the concourse, entrance, seating, capacity, outfield seating, suite, etc. and I’m not sure you can change the orientation of the stadium to fix a lot of it to that level

I’ve played/camped in 9 SEC stadiums (TN, SC, UK, Auburn, Alabama, LSU, Missouri, Vanderbilt, Georgia) and I think 6 ACC stadiums (Miami, UNC, NCST, UVA, VT, and GT). Granted, these were anywhere from 9-15 years ago, Miami was near the bottom of that list if I was ranking it unbiased. All have changed since then. Lindsey Nelson (Tennessee) was a **** hole my entire life, easily the bottom of my list of those 15, below Miami at that time, and now it’s getting bumped into the top 5. I would guess Miami is in the 25-30 range. Higher if you value tradition and novelty and not just flashiness.

It takes winning and commitment. Even when we were winning, like football, commitment to facilities and infrastructure wasn’t there.
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Can't imagine a worse ROI than spending $50M on baseball facilities right now lol.
Could spend $5M/yr for a decade just on baseball NIL and get 2 orders of magnitude better results than investing in the facility would bring.
 
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Calinative said:
Can't imagine a worse ROI than spending $50M on baseball facilities right now lol.
Could spend $5M/yr for a decade just on baseball NIL and get 2 orders of magnitude better results than investing in the facility would bring.
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Yep window for facilities was missed. Keep them as is and spend on players
 
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JayCane20 said:
Yep window for facilities was missed. Keep them as is and spend on players
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Maybe at least upgrade some seating and a bit of cover. Might bring out more fans

Anyone ever see Georgia Gwinnetts field. NAIA program. Top 10 lb for lb any level. Maybe the best playing surface you’ll ever see. Plenty of room to expand seating as I fully expect them to bump up down the road to at least D2. Maybe 1 in the long run.

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Calinative said:
Can't imagine a worse ROI than spending $50M on baseball facilities right now lol.
Could spend $5M/yr for a decade just on baseball NIL and get 2 orders of magnitude better results than investing in the facility would bring.
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Can understand your bean counter logic, shortsighted nonetheless.

Facilities are a direct reflection of the Admin’s support of a program. In fact, you can argue that our decline on the field follows pretty closely the lack of infrastructure investments since…

Sure there’s been some, but not comparatively speaking to the likes of ______ (AT VERY LEAST 20 like JayCane20 says).

Those programs are not only competitively matching payouts to players, they keep improving their facilities as well.

Either you have the will and $$ to compete in ALL FACETS, or you playing at winning the lottery from time to time, a far cry from our annual visits to Omaha.

As fans, that’s pretty much what we’ve been shown over the last 10+ years, both on the field and “in the stands” smh.

Go Canes‼
 
CandideCane said:
Can understand your bean counter logic, shortsighted nonetheless.

Facilities are a direct reflection of the Admin’s support of a program. In fact, you can argue that our decline on the field follows pretty closely the lack of infrastructure investments since…

Sure there’s been some, but not comparatively speaking to the likes of ______ (AT VERY LEAST 20 like JayCane20 says).

Those programs are not only competitively matching payouts to players, they keep improving their facilities as well.

Either you have the will and $$ to compete in ALL FACETS, or you playing at winning the lottery from time to time, a far cry from our annual visits to Omaha.

As fans, that’s pretty much what we’ve been shown over the last 10+ years, both on the field and “in the stands” smh.

Go Canes‼
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my bean counter logic is that Baseball NiL really isn’t very much and $5M yearly would probably put us at the very top top of anyone for baseball NIL spend. Wouldn’t be surprised if we were doubling or even tripling some/most TOP programs at that amount t. Therefore you’d get elite players. Elite players with the facilities we ALREADY have is clearly the best use of resources. Let’s not act like our facilities are hs level. They’re good enough. And we just invested in more scientific/analytic hardware for development...
 
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JayCane20 said:
Top 5 gets bumped up to a new level every year. An educated guess - a one time commitment of $30-50M to catch up to the top 5 and then ongoing $5-10M infusions every few years to keep up.

The stadium is a magical/timeless experience. Incredible atmosphere, especially when the product is right. But if you want it on the top level there’s a big gap of some things we’re missing in the concourse, entrance, seating, capacity, outfield seating, suite, etc. and I’m not sure you can change the orientation of the stadium to fix a lot of it to that level

I’ve played/camped in 9 SEC stadiums (TN, SC, UK, Auburn, Alabama, LSU, Missouri, Vanderbilt, Georgia) and I think 6 ACC stadiums (Miami, UNC, NCST, UVA, VT, and GT). Granted, these were anywhere from 9-15 years ago, Miami was near the bottom of that list if I was ranking it unbiased. All have changed since then. Lindsey Nelson (Tennessee) was a **** hole my entire life, easily the bottom of my list of those 15, below Miami at that time, and now it’s getting bumped into the top 5. I would guess Miami is in the 25-30 range. Higher if you value tradition and novelty and not just flashiness.

It takes winning and commitment. Even when we were winning, like football, commitment to facilities and infrastructure wasn’t there.
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Yeah, we have no reason to be spending $30-50M and a top 5 complex is unrealistic and unnecessary. I think another infusion similar to the last one to renovate the seating down the 3rd base line would go a long way. That’s an eye sore.
 
Calinative said:
my bean counter logic is that Baseball NiL really isn’t very much and $5M yearly would probably put us at the very top top of anyone for baseball NIL spend. Wouldn’t be surprised if we were doubling or even tripling some/most TOP programs at that amount t. Therefore you’d get elite players. Elite players with the facilities we ALREADY have is clearly the best use of resources. Let’s not act like our facilities are hs level. They’re good enough. And we just invested in more scientific/analytic hardware for development...
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Have it your way. But peeps used to say the same thing about an IPF for football. Realize it’s a question of $$ BUT in this era of NIL and some type of P2 coming sooner than later $$ is the MOST IMPORTANT variable.

There is a 3-5 year window to show we are serious about being in the convo which is why you see Football spending like never before Now it’s time for Baseball (Bball already further along imo) to catch some too.

Guess what we are really missing is a program promoter, ala Wizard. People may not remember but as GREAT OF A BASEBALL MIND he may have been an even better promoter of our Canes baseball.

Small wonder we were spoiled. Hall of Famer on and off the field. Did whatever it took, including fixing the field, getting lights AND creating atmosphere to fill the **** seats. Say whatever you want, but the program now has lost ground and if cannot compete $$ and promotion wise, just playing roulette hoping to catch a streak.

Go Canes‼
 
9oh4Cane said:
Yeah, we have no reason to be spending $30-50M and a top 5 complex is unrealistic and unnecessary. I think another infusion similar to the last one to renovate the seating down the 3rd base line would go a long way. That’s an eye sore.
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Agree on eyesore, sad we don’t have the $$ will power.
 
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