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Are We Going To Get a LB Transfer?

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Implement the 4-0-7 defense and be done with it. I'm over these ****ed up LBs. Patke can't recruit worth a **** and we are holding out hope for a 2-year rental to offset trash HS LB recruiting from the staff. It can't be because we are worried about someone transferring; which LB would we give a **** if they transferred?
 
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DemCanesByke said:
What are our linebackers i went back and watched the oklahoma state game last night I dont even think you can classify those kids as Jags and that wasnt even the UNC or clemson games.
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You watched Jennings and McCloud last year. Both those guys are done.

You didn’t see the guys who’ll be out there this season.
 
Does this depth chart really scream "go get a transfer LB NOW, GODDAMMIT, NOW!"

WLB Smith -- Huff -- Steed -- Troutman -- Johnson

MLB Flagg -- Brooks -- Jennings -- Cave

We know what we have in Steed and Jennings, for the most part, although they should each keep improving further removed from their respective injuries. But the rest of these kids are still pretty inexperienced. Do we want to slap a patch somewhere and kick the can down the road, or do we let the cream rise to the top from among the current group of available LBs.
 
rok said:
Does this depth chart really scream "go get a transfer LB NOW, GODDAMMIT, NOW!"

WLB Smith -- Huff -- Steed -- Troutman -- Johnson

MLB Flagg -- Brooks -- Jennings -- Cave

We know what we have in Steed and Jennings, for the most part, although they should each keep improving further removed from their respective injuries. But the rest of these kids are still pretty inexperienced. Do we want to slap a patch somewhere and kick the can down the road, or do we let the cream rise to the top from among the current group of available LBs.
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From a depth standpoint no we don’t NEED a extra body..but we need a impact player. And that the only type of player we should be after at the ILB spot in the portal. If that guy doesn’t exist our numbers are fine
 
Of course the team will take an elite player at LB if they want to come. I don’t think there’s any position they wouldn’t take an elite transfer outside of OT, Safety, RB, and QB.

They’ve gotta develop the guys we have at LB or cut the dead weight this year. Brooks, Cave, and Huff are all really good athletes. Huff and Cave especially. The lack of coaching issue has been beaten to death. This is an S&C department issue just as much as coaching IMO.
Serious questions like why did Huff lose10bs as a junior? He’s listed at 6’3 205. That’s a developed weight for a CB or FS. Let’s say a ceiling for Huff is a Telvin Smith type. He was skinny and 215 at his LIGHTEST. You can’t tackle guys and get off blocks at 200lbs unless you’re a badass mean **** like Rohan Marley. You can teach a **** monkey to play 4-3 OLB in Diaz’s scheme in a week. So I’m not buying he doesn’t know the playbook crap.
TAC is shorter and looks just as light as Huff. I’m not buying TAC is 225lbs as listed. Maybe 210 now soaking wet. He looked like a S out there last season. I doubt even 200.
Keontra Smith was moved to LB and lost 10lbs this offseason to be at 205lbs. Who moves from S to LB and loses weight? This makes zero sense.

Lots of these moves are puzzling. I get it if the kids got hurt, really sick, or whatever. This more or less seems to be a pattern of poor guidance and execution by S&C. It’s not just LB where we are seeing this stuff. For example, we had two frosh OTs lose 10lbs and are now 280lbs. You can’t play at 280lbs. We saw what happened to Zion at 285lbs. It wasn’t pretty.
 
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TrueFloridian said:
Of course the team will take an elite player at LB if they want to come. I don’t think there’s any position they wouldn’t take an elite transfer outside of OT, Safety, RB, and QB.

They’ve gotta develop the guys we have at LB or cut the dead weight this year. Brooks, Cave, and Huff are all really good athletes. Huff and Cave especially. The lack of coaching issue has been beaten to death. This is an S&C department issue just as much as coaching IMO.
Serious questions like why did Huff lose10bs as a junior? He’s listed at 6’3 205. That’s a developed weight for a CB or FS. Let’s say a ceiling for Huff is a Telvin Smith type. He was skinny and 215 at his LIGHTEST. You can’t tackle guys and get off blocks at 200lbs unless you’re a badass mean **** like Rohan Marley. You can teach a **** monkey to play 4-3 OLB in Diaz’s scheme in a week. So I’m not buying he doesn’t know the playbook crap.
TAC is shorter and looks just as light as Huff. I’m not buying TAC is 225lbs as listed. Maybe 210 now soaking wet. He looked like a S out there last season. I doubt even 200.
Keontra Smith was moved to LB and lost 10lbs this offseason to be at 205lbs. Who moves from S to LB and loses weight? This makes zero sense.

Lots of these moves are puzzling. I get it if the kids got hurt, really sick, or whatever. This more or less seems to be a pattern of poor guidance and execution by S&C. It’s not just LB where we are seeing this stuff. For example, we had two frosh OTs lose 10lbs and are now 280lbs. You can’t play at 280lbs. We saw what happened to Zion at 285lbs. It wasn’t pretty.
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I’ve felt from the get go that Feely is a speed guy. His workouts seem tailored towards speed. That works but we also need a guy that excels at putting some muscle and good weight on guys. Richts strength coach was decent as our team looked bigger when he was here. You need a scheme that does both, stressing speed for skill guys like wr’s and corners and muscle for linemen. Somewhere in between for lbers and te’s.
 
TrueFloridian said:
Of course the team will take an elite player at LB if they want to come. I don’t think there’s any position they wouldn’t take an elite transfer outside of OT, Safety, RB, and QB.

They’ve gotta develop the guys we have at LB or cut the dead weight this year. Brooks, Cave, and Huff are all really good athletes. Huff and Cave especially. The lack of coaching issue has been beaten to death. This is an S&C department issue just as much as coaching IMO.
Serious questions like why did Huff lose10bs as a junior? He’s listed at 6’3 205. That’s a developed weight for a CB or FS. Let’s say a ceiling for Huff is a Telvin Smith type. He was skinny and 215 at his LIGHTEST. You can’t tackle guys and get off blocks at 200lbs unless you’re a badass mean **** like Rohan Marley. You can teach a **** monkey to play 4-3 OLB in Diaz’s scheme in a week. So I’m not buying he doesn’t know the playbook crap.
TAC is shorter and looks just as light as Huff. I’m not buying TAC is 225lbs as listed. Maybe 210 now soaking wet. He looked like a S out there last season. I doubt even 200.
Keontra Smith was moved to LB and lost 10lbs this offseason to be at 205lbs. Who moves from S to LB and loses weight? This makes zero sense.

Lots of these moves are puzzling. I get it if the kids got hurt, really sick, or whatever. This more or less seems to be a pattern of poor guidance and execution by S&C. It’s not just LB where we are seeing this stuff. For example, we had two frosh OTs lose 10lbs and are now 280lbs. You can’t play at 280lbs. We saw what happened to Zion at 285lbs. It wasn’t pretty.
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Well 2020 did happen
 
Insanecane said:
I’ve felt from the get go that Feely is a speed guy. His workouts seem tailored towards speed. That works but we also need a guy that excels at putting some muscle and good weight on guys. Richts strength coach was decent as our team looked bigger when he was here. You need a scheme that does both, stressing speed for skill guys like wr’s and corners and muscle for linemen. Somewhere in between for lbers and te’s.
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I agree 💯. Each player should be on a specific gain/loss plan and held accountable. Pretty sure the strength and speed workouts are position specific already. That’s a good thing in theory but some fine tuning is obviously needed based on the offseason results.
 
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