Anyone that's defended McCoy

[Calinative]

Cantwell played 16 snaps in garbage time against CMU at left tackle, and people here are standing on the table demanding that he start our next game vs Clemson in place of McCoy. Someone delete my account please.

No actually it’s mostly been questioning why he wasn’t just left at OT from spring. Now at this point the die has been cast and he is unlikely to play any OT this season…

 

[Calinative]

No one is disagreeing that Cantwell should have stayed at OT and been getting his work there all along. It was 1000% a wasted opportunity to not get him more work during these first 4 games.

But that didn’t happen and it’s spilled milk now. So to think we are going to make that change now is foolish. They aren’t moving our veteran OT’s in week 5. I suggest you all quit crying and move on. Or not, whatever. Do you.

Actually not everyone is saying that at all and people are still defending how it has played out especially state media and co.

But yes today we likely have to accept the Oline unit WILL be SJ starter all season.

 

[Calinative]

You can’t have it both ways my man.

You are saying we have to do that with McCoy but can’t do it with Samson? Lmao

Samson is our best Olineman

 

[Calinative]

Cantwell a freshman who has a ton of developing to do has no business starting at left tackle on this team. That is an insane take right there. So we’re not gonna have our best offensive lineman in Sampson, not protecting the blindside of our quarterback? Get real dude, get real! Now, Cantwell is a tackle and what they should’ve done is left him at right tackle so at least Darin can see the rush on that side but not left tackle man, come on.

Smfh
Yeah ton of developing to do which is why having him start at Lt all spring then go to guard and and then back to OT and not vet valuable game reps against **** teams… yeah really helped his development there
Lt was about exiting spring. Now only ot he should go is RT.
And there is no difference between Lt and Rt in value.

Why Cantwell made sense to start at LT in spring and have competition be RT between Samson and McCoy all summer was because loser REMAINS at LG next to Cantwell.

 

[SpringsCane]

You can’t have it both ways my man.

You are saying we have to do that with McCoy but can’t do it with Samson? Lmao

Incorrect. Samson's play has been by far the best on the line. He's the one playing as a veteran leader should & he's a career backup that's had limited action. Guess you struggled with the context here. If McCoy hasn't been an issue I wouldn't be saying anything at all about him. At his size alone tackle makes sense. Samson's whether we've had him at guard or at tackle he's played exactly how we need him too. Mccoy struggles at both. Lmao sound similar to you? One has proved he excels at both positions so he deserves the chance while the other has been mid at best.

Can you help then with the reasoning why Cantwell wasn’t at tackle to begin with? Seems this first month he could have gotten a lot of valuable reps at tackle and it was an opportunity missed. Mario and Alex are the best in the biz but it seems like they underestimated someone on the line whether that was Samson or McCoy to take a hold of that tackle spot

 

[NicKane]

Smfh
Yeah ton of developing to do which is why having him start at Lt all spring then go to guard and and then back to OT and not vet valuable game reps against **** teams… yeah really helped his development there
Lt was about exiting spring. Now only ot he should go is RT.
And there is no difference between Lt and Rt in value.

Why Cantwell made sense to start at LT in spring and have competition be RT between Samson and McCoy all summer was because loser REMAINS at LG next to Cantwell.

Just so you know because I saw it with my own eyes, cantwwell wasn’t lights out in spring practice playing left tackle. He was serviceable at Best and did slightly improve as spring went along. But here’s something about spring football that I had to educate D money on. You’re not schemed against in spring football, that starts in fall camp and that’s when you see who rises to the top or not. Sampson Rose to the top and beat him out at left tackle and it wasn’t even close. End of story right there. now, if you wanna talk about putting Cantwell at right tackle and moving McCoy inside, that’s something that can be talked about, but taking our best offensive lineman off the blind side of our quarterback is insanity.

 

[Calinative]

Just so you know because I saw it with my own eyes, cantwwell wasn’t lights out in spring practice playing left tackle. He was serviceable at Best and did slightly improve as spring went along. But here’s something about spring football that I had to educate D money on. You’re not schemed against in spring football, that starts in fall camp and that’s when you see who rises to the top or not. Sampson Rose to the top and beat him out at left tackle and it wasn’t even close. End of story right there. now, if you wanna talk about putting Cantwell at right tackle and moving McCoy inside, that’s something that can be talked about, but taking our best offensive lineman off the blind side of our quarterback is insanity.

Holy **** dude it doesn’t matter which side Cantwell is on at OT. The comp should have been between Samson and McCoy for one OT spot and the loser should have been at Guard next to Cantwell. Thats the point. You’re getting hung up on LT vs RT when it literally doesn’t matter. Blind side isn’t real or any more important. If that is the basis of your argument idgaf about it lmao. If a qb is looking to pass left his right is his blind side. If he is looking to pass right the left is. We don’t pass Right vs Left at a >55% rate that it makes a real difference. Defenses don’t line up their best pass rusher exclusively on the LT even anymore lmao… why on earth do you think having best passs protector at LT matters ? You think the defense won’t scheme up against the weaker OT anyways? Smh

I wanted Cantwell at LT specifically because McCoy and Samson spent all last year at LG. (And Cantwell played all hs at LT). So the loser (McCoy) staying at LG made the most sense.

I had been saying all last yr Samson was clearly better than McCoy, and then all offseason I said he was a much better fit at OT. You’re making this about Samson at OT when it isn’t. Period

 

[NicKane]

Holy **** dude it doesn’t matter which side Cantwell is on at OT. The comp should have been between Samson and McCoy for one OT spot and the loser should have been at Guard next to Cantwell. Thats the point. You’re getting hung up on LT vs RT when it literally doesn’t matter. Blind side isn’t real or any more important. If that is the basis of your argument idgaf about it lmao.

I wanted Cantwell at LT specifically because McCoy and Samson spent all last year at LG. (And Cantwell played all hs at LT). So the loser (McCoy) staying at LG made the most sense.

I had been saying all offseason Samson was clearly better than McCoy and better fit at OT. You’re making this about Samson at OF when it isn’t. Period

Communicating with you is like pulling teeth. Here’s the end of it, Sampson is the best tackle on the team and maybe the country. Only an idiot that probably never played this game would contemplate moving him off left tackle. You take that for what you will, but that’s reality regardless of how much word salad you want to put on here. Smh oh and Cantwell, he’s not ready yet. So there’s some reality on that as well for you.

 

[shumbly33]

Can you help then with the reasoning why Cantwell wasn’t at tackle to begin with? Seems this first month he could have gotten a lot of valuable reps at tackle and it was an opportunity missed. Mario and Alex are the best in the biz but it seems like they underestimated someone on the line whether that was Samson or McCoy to take a hold of that tackle spot

Starting at guard and moving to tackle is really not that uncommon. Evan Neal for instance, was a HUGE recruit in the vein of Cantwell, started at LG his frosh year, moved to RT his sophomore year and was an AA LT his junior year. I personally would have left him at tackle just based on his physical profile, however it is fairly common.

 

[SpringsCane]

Can you help then with the reasoning why Cantwell wasn’t at tackle to begin with? Seems this first month he could have gotten a lot of valuable reps at tackle and it was an opportunity missed. Mario and Alex are the best in the biz but it seems like they underestimated someone on the line whether that was Samson or McCoy to take a hold of that tackle spot

Starting at guard and moving to tackle is really not that uncommon. Evan Neal for instance, was a HUGE recruit in the vein on Cantwell, started at LG his frosh year, moved to RT his sophomore year and was an AA LT his junior year. I personally would have left him at tackle just based on his physical profilke, however it is fairly common.

Of course. Not questioning that. Think it’s safe to say Cantwell is OT3 right now. What concerns me is he has less than 20 snaps at tackle. And between both the Stanford and FAMU games, those are snaps he coulda gotten at OT. Not sure those opportunities are there til we get to BC

 

[Calinative]

Communicating with you is like pulling teeth. Here’s the end of it, Sampson is the best tackle on the team and maybe the country. Only an idiot that probably never played this game would contemplate moving him off left tackle. You take that for what you will, but that’s reality regardless of how much word salad you want to put on here. Smh oh and Cantwell, he’s not ready yet. So there’s some reality on that as well for you.

You are actually a ******* moron if anywhere in my posts you have been thinking I want Samson off OT or even LT now… genuinely you have to be a ****** to come away with that understanding from anything I’ve posted…

 

[NicKane]

You are actually a ******* moron if anywhere in my posts you have been thinking I want Samson off OT or even LT now… genuinely you have to be a ****** to come away with that understanding from anything I’ve posted…

Your first post you said Cantwell should be our left tackle, that’s all I need to read to be confirmed that you’re a moron and you don’t know anything about the game of football. End of story. What you should probably get into with your ability to spew word salad, nonsense is politics, you might be good at that, but when it comes to evaluating the game of football, you know nothing.

 

[Calinative]

Your first post you said Cantwell should be our left tackle, that’s all I need to read to be confirmed that you’re a moron and you don’t know anything about the game of football. End of story. What you should probably get into with your ability to spew word salad, nonsense politics, you might be good than that, but when it comes to evaluating the game of football, you know nothing.

Omfg, I was talking about from end of spring, all summer and through first 4 games.

Not at any point have I said Cantwell should NOW start at LT. You just can’t read.

 

[NicKane]

Omfg, I was talking about from end of spring, all summer and through first 4 games.

Not at any point have I said Cantwell should NOW start at LT. You just can’t read.

I’ve told you end of spring doesn’t mean ****! All that matters is fall camp because that’s when you start getting schemed against and of course what happens in the season. Cantwell and Sampson competed for the left tackle spot during fall and Sampson beat him out without any doubt. And for those who saw, it wasn’t close at all. So if you want Cantwell to play on this team this season as a tackle, it’s right tackle or nothing. But just so you know, he has a ton of developing to do and he is not ready this season. And that’s OK but those are the facts. Say whatever you want, but it’s not real reality if you’re arguing against that.

 

[Calinative]

I’ve told you end of spring doesn’t mean ****! All that matters is fall camp because that’s when you start getting schemed against and of course what happens in the season. Cantwell and Sampson competed for the left tackle spot during fall and Sampson beat him out without any doubt. And for those who saw, it wasn’t close at all. So if you want Cantwell to play on this team this season as a tackle, it’s right tackle or nothing. But just so you know, he has a ton of developing to do and he is not ready this season. And that’s OK but those are the facts. Say whatever you want, but it’s not real reality if you’re arguing against that.

Literally all in THIS THREAD ALONE and one of them directly in my first response to you. You just genuine can’t comprehend what you are reading like I said

 

[Angry Ibis]

No one is disagreeing that Cantwell should have stayed at OT and been getting his work there all along. It was 1000% a wasted opportunity to not get him more work during these first 4 games.

But that didn’t happen and it’s spilled milk now. So to think we are going to make that change now is foolish. They aren’t moving our veteran OT’s in week 5. I suggest you all quit crying and move on. Or not, whatever. Do you.

 

[supacane]

Can you help then with the reasoning why Cantwell wasn’t at tackle to begin with? Seems this first month he could have gotten a lot of valuable reps at tackle and it was an opportunity missed. Mario and Alex are the best in the biz but it seems like they underestimated someone on the line whether that was Samson or McCoy to take a hold of that tackle spot

I think they played him at guard because they wanted him in the lineup and he was not gonna beat out McCoy or Samson at Tackle.

 

[rascon]

Seeing Mario’s comments about JC earlier today provided insight.
Basically everyone that Miami recruits was a LT in high school and that everyone needs to experience reps inside.

Not sure I buy that 100 percent, but I get it. I think the other part is that I think they were hoping out some hope that JC could win the job at LG and when he didn’t take to that position like they were hoping, it now makes sense to move him back to OT.

I would have liked to see him get some reps at RT in the past four games, just because you never know about injuries, I hope if we blow out any ACC teams, we can still get him some reps at RT, because if not, is the backup RT Merriweather or Hawks?

Reading between the tea leaves, I think the coaches feel like they now have their 4 guards that they are going to ride or die with. Congdon and SJ at LG and Buchanan and Merriweather at RG. We may/may not see Congdon pass up SJ.

 

[Cribby]

May have been on the Rb. Looked like the line was in a full slide protection to the left.

This has happened multiple times this year

 

[NicKane]

Literally all in THIS THREAD ALONE and one of them directly in my first response to you. You just genuine can’t comprehend what you are reading like I said

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I’m not gonna read all that nonsense. The post that I first responded to of yours, you said that Cantwell should be our left tackle and I’m telling you that’s a bunch of ******* nonsense! Sampson is our left tackle and he might be the best left tackle in the country. End of story weirdo!