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Gatorhater said:
DJWilliams55 said:
It never would have gotten to that point if we didn't let him throw it 50 times. When they are dropping eight, you run the ball.

Coaching could have cured the problem.
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Yeap. JJ got out coached that game with the same defense that beat him the year before in the Sugar Bowl. Ten more running plays and ten less passing plays, we win that game. Highsmith was killing them. He is one of our Cane gods, but JJ had to learn to coach bowl games--lost his first three here. Thing is that he could swallow is pride and adapt.
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Amen!
 
Vinny just an interception prone QB. He threw a bunch of pics in the sugar bowl the game before as well. Plus he was coming off of an injury.

Vinny led the NFL in INTs four times including a NFL record of 35 in 1988. 267 for the career 4th All time.
 
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Vinny was color blind in the two bowl games he played. He had 9 INTs in bowl games.
 
Gatorhater said:
DJWilliams55 said:
It never would have gotten to that point if we didn't let him throw it 50 times. When they are dropping eight, you run the ball.

Coaching could have cured the problem.
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Yeap. JJ got out coached that game with the same defense that beat him the year before in the Sugar Bowl. Ten more running plays and ten less passing plays, we win that game. Highsmith was killing them. He is one of our Cane gods, but JJ had to learn to coach bowl games--lost his first three here. Thing is that he could swallow is pride and adapt.
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I don't think he got out coached as much as it was him not swallowing his pride. Big difference Imo. Miami still out everything's penn st. in every category
 
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Vinny threw 24 INT in 21 regular season starts in 1985 and 1986, so it's not like it came out of nowhere. Even during his Heisman season he threw 9 INT in 10 starts.
 
I've always thought the exact same thing. Perhaps his pops got into some gambling issues ala Jordan. But too many of those picks were too blatant for that to just be considered a bad game.
 
Miami82 said:
Stupid premise. Interceptaverde went on to do the same crap in the league.

The bigger question is we were running the ball down state penn throat and why put the game in vinnies hands when he was obviously off.
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According to the staff, Miami called a lot more running calls - but Vinny kept on audibling into pass plays because he was repeatedly confused over Penn State's alignments.

Stevens's system did provide tremendous autonomy to the QB. It worked most of the time. Many defenses ran Tennessee/Penn States identicial defensive gameplan against Steve Walsh with poor results.

But I guarantee you JJ still deeply regrets to this day not pulling Vinny by the facemask in the Fiesta Bowl and telling him to run the play that was called.
 
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Soul Cane said:
Miami82 said:
Stupid premise. Interceptaverde went on to do the same crap in the league.

The bigger question is we were running the ball down state penn throat and why put the game in vinnies hands when he was obviously off.
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According to the staff, Miami called a lot more running calls - but Vinny kept on audibling into pass plays because he was repeatedly confused over Penn State's alignments.

Stevens's system did provide tremendous autonomy to the QB. It worked most of the time. Many defenses ran Tennessee/Penn States identicial defensive gameplan against Steve Walsh with poor results.

But I guarantee you JJ still deeply regrets to this day not pulling Vinny by the facemask in the Fiesta Bowl and telling him to run the play that was called.
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QB's require brains Vinnie was a great guy but dumb as a rock never took much to confuse.
 
JJ got rhythmically slapped by Slambuttsky. Highsmith could have whipped them by himself in that game.
 
If Vinnie actually put effort into being intercepted he would have had 10. To him it´s second nature, putting the ball in the oppositions hands just comes naturally. Asking him to actively try to do it would have been WAY too obvious.
 
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