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Anyone else feel like this about ND

NDfan said:
I know people are giving ND a hard time for skipping their bowl, but ESPN has been ******** them for a month. Guess who controls pretty much the whole bowl system? ESPN/Disney. If ND can help blow up that system and give a big middle finger to the SEC/ESPN, then good for them. At least it is a small consolation prize. This is the first step to burning it all down at ESPN's expense. Seriously, every single game had ESPN announcers with the same talking points, trashing ND. I am sure it came from the top. Burn down their bowl system and don't apologize. Costing them millions.
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The reason every single game with the espn announcers had the same talking points is that nearly all of them are former coaches and players, and anyone who ever played competitive sports knows that when two teams finish with the same record, head to head is always the tiebreaker. Notre Dame made the ***** argument that numbers on an excel spreadsheet should be more important than head to head victories. That’s the end of it. You have no other argument besides “Hey committee! Don’t pay attention to the win / loss column, look at this stat sheet.” So if you think former college and pro athletes are ever going to agree with that, then ND fans are more delusional than I thought. But go ahead and believe ESPN has been Miami’s friend if it makes you feel better.

Now I would strongly suggest ND fans just accept the fact they lost to Miami, and head to head wins is the correct objective standard, and instead turn your ire to Bama. They are the ones who undeservedly took your spot.
 
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Hold My Beer said:
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Best believe any of us old-time Canes from North Florida will co-sign
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So will anyone from West Palm Beach. We just don't give a **** about the others. That's who I had to put up with.

I was always aware of history with ND, but it was really quite brief, and I never actually dealt with their fans.

In fact, I think I've only known one person who went there, and it's not some sort of close friendship. I'm not getting worked up over a school in Indiana.
 
Handsome Squidbum said:
The reason every single game with the espn announcers had the same talking points is that nearly all of them are former coaches and players, and anyone who ever played competitive sports knows that when two teams finish with the same record, head to head is always the tiebreaker. Notre Dame made the ***** argument that numbers on an excel spreadsheet should be more important than head to head victories. That’s the end of it. You have no other argument besides “Hey committee! Don’t pay attention to the win / loss column, look at this stat sheet.” So if you think former college and pro athletes are ever going to agree with that, then ND fans are more delusional than I thought. But go ahead and believe ESPN has been Miami’s friend. Lol
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Again, it isn't ND vs. Miami like ESPN was trying to convince us of. They were trying to hide the fact that the SEC sucked and didn't deserve five teams in. Apparently it worked. All the broadcast guys talked about was Miami and ND head to head. Ignoring the fact that Miami and ND would both blow the doors off every SEC team.
 
It's always been **** nd first and foremost. the gater has tried to take the crown recently but kelly burned that **** back in. **** nd! they got ****ed over by bama, not us.
 
NDfan said:
Again, it isn't ND vs. Miami like ESPN was trying to convince us of. They were trying to hide the fact that the SEC sucked and didn't deserve five teams in. Apparently it worked. All the broadcast guys talked about was Miami and ND head to head. Ignoring the fact that Miami and ND would both blow the doors off every SEC team.
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I don’t disagree with anything you just said. I strongly disagree with your previous insinuation that espn gave announcers marching orders to prop up Miami.
 
Brains said:
So will anyone from West Palm Beach. We just don't give a **** about the others. That's who I had to put up with.

I was always aware of history with ND, but it was really quite brief, and I never actually dealt with their fans.

In fact, I think I've only known one person who went there, and it's not some sort of close friendship. I'm not getting worked up over a school in Indiana.
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Those insufferable ******** driving around with their 1984 SEC Champions license plates, bumper stickers, and t shirts were enough to seal the deal for me.
 
NDfan said:
Why the hate for ND? Just curious.
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I'll give you my personal, honest opinion.

I'm Catholic. Raised to respect and admire Notre Dame.

Started at UM in 1986. The whole 1985 "run up the score" controversy with Gerry Faust was a load of crap, so I started with a negative impression of ND.

Once I enrolled, we did not play in 1986. We whupped ND in our 1987 national championship season.

But when I really started to HATE Notre Dame? You know the answer. "Catholics vs. Convicts" and everything that said and implied. Not to mention the Cleveland Gary non-fumble, when the SPLIT SQUAD OF REFS admitted that they thought it was 4th and goal on that play. Split squads were outlawed in the off-season between 1988 and 1989.

Then your ***** president ginned up our obvious feelings of anger and revenge at the 1989 game to "cancel" the series. I would say that for another major independent to suddenly act like Miami wasn't a rival of Notre Dame was just insulting. We played annually for 15 years, and Miami is STILL one of the teams that has played ND the most number of times, historically. And to make you feel better, this is also why I hate Florida so much too. Their ******* arrogant fans, claiming that "Miami is not a rival". **** you, Gators. And **** you, too, Notre Dame.

Notre Dame has been in my Holy Trinity of Hate ever since. Gators, SemenHoles, and Notre Dame. This was my dream season. To beat ND, then Florida, then F$U...best feeling ever.

Having said that, the CFPC screwed Notre Dame to favor Alabama. BOTH Miami and Notre Dame deserved to be in the Top 10.
 
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I think ND fans really screwed themselves by actively trying to make the case that their metrics/analytics should be more important than the h2h. I think if they had taken a "yea the h2h should probably carry the day but the real issue here is the sec" the rest of the cfb world would have been more accepting.

But it genuinely felt like they were gaslighting everyone: "how could you not see that fpi/losing to 2 unranked teams is worse than losing the game on the field?" - that kind narrative pretty much p*ssed off everyone.
 
NDfan said:
Again, it isn't ND vs. Miami like ESPN was trying to convince us of. They were trying to hide the fact that the SEC sucked and didn't deserve five teams in. Apparently it worked. All the broadcast guys talked about was Miami and ND head to head. Ignoring the fact that Miami and ND would both blow the doors off every SEC team.
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You're not wrong about the SEC and collusion. Bama's losses were a 17 point loss to 5-7 FSU, a close loss to Oklahoma, and a 21 point blowout loss in the SECCG. They had no business being selected.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
I'll give you my personal, honest opinion.

I'm Catholic. Raised to respect and admire Notre Dame.

Started at UM in 1986. The whole 1985 "run up the score" controversy with Gerry Faust was a load of crap, so I started with a negative impression of ND.

Once I enrolled, we did not play in 1986. We whupped ND in our 1987 national championship season.

But when I really started to HATE Notre Dame? You know the answer. "Catholics vs. Convicts" and everything that said and implied.

Then your ***** president ginned up our obvious feelings of anger and revenge at the 1989 game to "cancel" the series.

Notre Dame has been in my Holy Trinity of Hate ever since. Gators, SemenHoles, and Notre Dame.

This was my dream season. To beat ND, then Florida, then F$U...best feeling ever.
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Fair. My ugly childhood rivalry was Michigan. I lived in the area where it was half and half and the Michigan fans were jerks, so I learned to hate Michigan. Still do. Miami honestly isn't one way or the other for me, but you guys are reasonable and fair, so I tend to like you more than not. The more reasonable among you realize the SEC and ESPN is the problem more than ND.
 
Canesrule230 said:
I think ND fans really screwed themselves by actively trying to make the case that their metrics/analytics should be more important than the h2h. I think if they had taken a "yea the h2h should probably carry the day but the real issue here is the sec" the rest of the cfb world would have been more accepting.

But it genuinely felt like they were gaslighting everyone: "how could you not see that fpi/losing to 2 unranked teams is worse than losing the game on the field?" - that kind narrative pretty much p*ssed off everyone.
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Yup. They pointed their guns the wrong way. I said in another thread most people would like to see this committee model get destroyed. ND had an opportunity to make a lot of friends but instead focused on Miami.
 
Florida and Florida State are my top two dislikes. Florida State on top because we play them every year. Florida for historical rivalry and the occasional game.

The next tier would be Notre Dame, Virginia Tech, Syracuse, Boston College, Pittsburgh, Ohio State, and Penn State.

And generically, I dislike anything having to do with the $EC.
 
MPCane17 said:
I hate Florida and Florida state… and it used to be Florida the most by a wide margin for a long time for me….

Notre dame showed their true colors today and they are my new number 1. They are the most smug, entitled and elitist program of all time. They haven’t won a thing since 1988 yet act like they are Georgia or Bama of the last 20 years. Honestly ***** that school, fan base and all their high horse bull****. I can’t wait to play them again next year.

Sorry rant over haha

Go Canes!
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1988. That’s the last time they won. I don’t respect programs whose legacy is **** they did pre segregation 😂. Backing out of a bowl & crying.
 
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They've proved themselves to be a bunch of entitled crybabies.

From the Golics & Smetanas of the world, to their fan bases websites.

Never seen a fanbase cry and ***** about being entitled.

And then to not play the bowl game. At least FSU played.
Every other team that has felt they were "robbed" or "left out" played.
 
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