Anybody Hear Mark Packer Obliterate Miami Today?

[Canething]

Typical talking head speaking without knowledge. Golden is not maxed out here, he's just a bad head coach that can't buy a meaningful win to save his sorry ***. He was not hired to navigate the Shapiro mess.

Bring in a good coach, and watch happens at the U.

 

[Insanecane]

Packer and Brady Hoke host a radio show on the college sports satellite station.

Got a call from a UM fan asking about who would be a good coach to hire if Golden was replaced.

Packer said he wasn't sure Golden would be fired. But also mentioned Golden was maxed out at Miami, and did the job he was hired to do ... Navigate the NCAA, and run a clean program.

Packer then went on to say he doubts Miami can ever get back to what the fans want. Says it's an unrealistic expectation, and that what happened before was the perfect storm. Now, everybody recruits South Florida.

He also took a dump on our stadium situation, calling it the worst college atmosphere for football. No energy, no mystique, no home field advantage

Hoke said Kaaya would be a draw to prospective coaches, and the talent base accessible for recruiting is the best. Can't get all the S. Florida recruits, but we have to get our share.

Was a bit depressing.

I promise you the same things where said in 1996-1999. But with the right coach (not Al) this program will take off. We've had so much talent slip through us in the last decade because we haven't been a winning program. Guys like Vince Young to Dalvin Cook would have all played for Miami had we had a better coach.

 

[Fightinibis]

Packer and Brady Hoke host a radio show on the college sports satellite station.

Got a call from a UM fan asking about who would be a good coach to hire if Golden was replaced.

Packer said he wasn't sure Golden would be fired. But also mentioned Golden was maxed out at Miami, and did the job he was hired to do ... Navigate the NCAA, and run a clean program.

Packer then went on to say he doubts Miami can ever get back to what the fans want. Says it's an unrealistic expectation, and that what happened before was the perfect storm. Now, everybody recruits South Florida.

He also took a dump on our stadium situation, calling it the worst college atmosphere for football. No energy, no mystique, no home field advantage

Hoke said Kaaya would be a draw to prospective coaches, and the talent base accessible for recruiting is the best. Can't get all the S. Florida recruits, but we have to get our share.

Was a bit depressing.

All of these opinions are based on what we have known for the last 12 years, a President, BOT and AD disinterested in winning at the highest level. Assuming all factors stay the same, of course we will be neck deep in mediocrity. New facilities (now maybe only 50% worse than major State schools instead of 90%) mean jack squat except to try and stay relevant.

These predictions or perspectives are depressing because they are facts.

The only glimmer of hope is that some power that be decides to hire Butch back because it is economically feasible to do so FIRST and appeasing to the enraged fan base SECOND, and both are more important than being a butt hurt ego-maniacal dispchitt regarding Butch's last stint.

UM

 

[Gmannewt]

Miami is not a college atmosphere, that's part of the point. It's a professional atmosphere, or at least was.

 

[SoldierForThisU]

There is some truth to what was said, but also a lot of bs.

1. The stadium situation -
This was the truth. When the OB was torn down it ripped the heart out of us. It was our home, and the bulldozed it. It really hasn't been the same since, and no Sun Life decorations make it really feel like our home. Last time I was at a game...I can't describe it. It just felt...weird..
You know what it felt like.... like a high school all-star game played in some random stadium. It just felt really foreign and didn't feel like our place at all.

2. The "perfect storm" part and that we can't get back is the biggest load of bs. A perfect storm doesn't happen in multiple decades. A perfect storm is something that well...magically comes together in a unique way. There was nothing unique about it once we figured it out. Schnellenburger kickstarted it. then Jimmy, Erickson, Butch, etc. It was always the South Florida talent that made miami... (the coaching was important, but honestly it was the talent more than the coaching). We just needed coaches who knew how to put the talent together. and keep it here.

The blue print is so so easy too.


There are about 25-30 Highschools that you have to own.

St. Thomas Aquinas
Northwestern
Norland
Pahoke
Glades
Miami Central
Kathleen
Coral Gables
Lincoln
Lakeland
Vero Beach
Raines
Miami Senior
Jackson
Chamberlain
Caroll City
South Miami
etc.

It's a list of about 45 schools total. You can have 9 assistants recruiting. Divide them up 5 schools for each coach. That's it. 5 schools.
None of this recruit nationally crap. Just 5 schools for each assistant. Every single day they spend the whole day talking to the coaches from one of their schools. 1 day for each school building relationships. You don't even have to secure the best player from each school. You just need to secure 25 every year. And I guarantee that if you got half the top players from those 45 schools every year...you will crush people. It's not hard to do.

A coach that owns south florida talent. That makes sure they stay disciplined and sharpens their raw skills into aggressive relentless players with passion and intensity....and tada...miami is back.

No perfect storm needed. I just counted on our roster and their are about 40 kids on the roster that aren't from South Florida. 40 kids... for the University of Miami. Yeah I know we always got a couple here and there from other places...but we never really had to...and look...nobody cares more about Miami then Miami kids...well they used to...until we started giving scholarships elsewhere...

45 schools. 1 coach for 5 schools...talking to each one every single day...it's not hard to do. but for some reason we've decided to make it hard.

You do realize that Raines is in Jacksonville, right?

 

[CentralRockets2000]

Packer and Brady Hoke host a radio show on the college sports satellite station.

Got a call from a UM fan asking about who would be a good coach to hire if Golden was replaced.

Packer said he wasn't sure Golden would be fired. But also mentioned Golden was maxed out at Miami, and did the job he was hired to do ... Navigate the NCAA, and run a clean program.

Packer then went on to say he doubts Miami can ever get back to what the fans want. Says it's an unrealistic expectation, and that what happened before was the perfect storm. Now, everybody recruits South Florida.

He also took a dump on our stadium situation, calling it the worst college atmosphere for football. No energy, no mystique, no home field advantage

Hoke said Kaaya would be a draw to prospective coaches, and the talent base accessible for recruiting is the best. Can't get all the S. Florida recruits, but we have to get our share.

Was a bit depressing.

I bet you wouldn't believe me if I told you I was the caller? I always call into the Mark Packer show and like I told him he let's the callers talk regardless how long and is not so quick to get you off the line like 560wqam. I thought Pacer was wrong as well but he did say something that resonated with me after I listened to him. We were known as "THE U" during our glory days and now just know as The Miami Hurricanes....what he also said about Golden maxing out his time and maybe The U not being a great fit for him is true. Look at Strong and many other coaches who were successful but went to schools where the fit just wasn't there. As far as the stadium, the O.B. may have been old and outdated in some sense but it was a pit like he said and unless the Marlins continue their devious ways and fan support continues to decline...hopefully they sell and move to another city to make that stadium vacant for The U!

 

[miamiphd]

If Hoke knows so much about college football and recruiting in S. FL, then why did he bomb at Michigan?

 

[RL52U]

You do realize that Raines is in Jacksonville, right?

Yeah I know where it is. Just because it's up there doesn't mean we can't have a coach recruiting Raines. Everybody recruits south florida.
Raines has had 22 players make it to the NFL. One of the biggest pipelines to the league from the state, and if we had a coach on that school every single week we would get one player from there every other year probably their best player because that school isn't recruited like it was in the past.

We have 1 kid from Raines right now on the commit list Michael Pinckney and that kid is really good.

Look at Brian Dawkins... he was from Raines...he went to I think Clemson or something...that's a player that fits the Miami mentality, and they have others there too.

 

[The Franchise]

Packer and Brady Hoke host a radio show on the college sports satellite station.

Got a call from a UM fan asking about who would be a good coach to hire if Golden was replaced.

Packer said he wasn't sure Golden would be fired. But also mentioned Golden was maxed out at Miami, and did the job he was hired to do ... Navigate the NCAA, and run a clean program.

Packer then went on to say he doubts Miami can ever get back to what the fans want. Says it's an unrealistic expectation, and that what happened before was the perfect storm. Now, everybody recruits South Florida.

He also took a dump on our stadium situation, calling it the worst college atmosphere for football. No energy, no mystique, no home field advantage

Hoke said Kaaya would be a draw to prospective coaches, and the talent base accessible for recruiting is the best. Can't get all the S. Florida recruits, but we have to get our share.

Was a bit depressing.

I bet you wouldn't believe me if I told you I was the caller? I always call into the Mark Packer show and like I told him he let's the callers talk regardless how long and is not so quick to get you off the line like 560wqam. I thought Pacer was wrong as well but he did say something that resonated with me after I listened to him. We were known as "THE U" during our glory days and now just know as The Miami Hurricanes....what he also said about Golden maxing out his time and maybe The U not being a great fit for him is true. Look at Strong and many other coaches who were successful but went to schools where the fit just wasn't there. As far as the stadium, the O.B. may have been old and outdated in some sense but it was a pit like he said and unless the Marlins continue their devious ways and fan support continues to decline...hopefully they sell and move to another city to make that stadium vacant for The U!

The whole "he's not a fit at ____" line of bullshyt is code developed by facgits too weak to just say that a HC sucks. Folden's like green eggs and ham. He sucks here. He sucks there. He sucks everywhere.

He's not a fit for head coaching. That's what he's not a fit for.