Another Coaches Clinic Recap

This is really all that matters

Whether we are a run first team or an air raid team, Miami can get 5 star receivers and running backs if our staff can recruit

**** even our staffs in the past have landed some here and there but have let so many slip away

Fix that and everything else takes care of itself

Gattis likes to run but also had a big play offense. Dropped big points on some good teams last year

100%, we've got to have a top 5 recruiting goal every year with top 10 being the floor. That and daily intensity with the hardest practices we can handle. 2021 UGA's scheme wasn't exactly exciting or lighting it up. But they won with an average QB because they have the best players and they practice at the highest level with intensity at all times.
 
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I really like Alabama's current offensive identity. They remain physical and can run the ball but they have beautiful pass concepts and can absolutely open it up. Im hoping for something closer to that then the Georgia or Michigan model (although I do like the Michigan run concepts mashed together with some of what Ponce / Satterfield do with outside zone)
 
It really depends on your program's specific goals. A lot of mid tier programs are realistic about where they stand in the football hierarchy so they'll be satisfied with winning 7 or 8 games a year with an occasional run at 10 wins when everything is just right. If you're running some form of extreme offense like the triple option or Mike Leach's version of the Air Raid, you're essentially saying "we'll never have the talent to compete heads up so we need to do something extreme on offense to totally catch opponents off guard if we're going to win games". And it can work. Both Paul Johnson and Mike Leach have had success at places where they're usually at a talent disadvantage. The problem is, if you want to contend for more than just occasional success, you need to attract the best players and the best players aren't trying to play in systems like that. Blue chip players want to win games and get drafted. No quarterback or receiver worth anything is going to want to play in a system that throws the ball 7 times a game. No running back wants to play somewhere he's only going to get 5 or 6 carries in an entire game. Same goes for linemen. Mayyyybe a Leach OT could get NFL attention if he's a premier pass blocker but nobody is drafting a lineman from a triple option program. Mostly because the traits and techniques they prioritize are meaningless to a coach running a professional offense.

If you want to really compete at the highest levels and attract the most talented players, you need to have a more balanced system. And when I say balanced, I don't mean running it 50% and passing it 50%. I mean, your team has to have the ability to do both at a relatively high level. If a defense can just load the box and shut down your run and there's nothing you can do about it, your offense will struggle against anyone good. Same if you have no threat to run the ball and opponents just flood the field with pass rushers and defensive backs and you can't make them pay for it. One dimensional teams get exposed against the better programs in college football.
Fair enough, I don't disagree with anything you're saying. I just think people get scared when they hear "wing-t" or scream about how we need an air-raid scheme, while I think we need to run what we can best do. So maybe what we do this year starts to evolve in later years if we start getting the type of OL the coaches want. Maybe some years we're pass-heavy, and some years we run more. The only thing I absolutely don't want to see this year is an offense that keeps trying to do the same things and failing because we don't have the personnel or we've become predictable. We need to do what wins games, whatever that may be. Like if our 3 best players on offense are all RBs, then we need to figure out how to get them the ball as opposed to saying we're a pass-first team. Likewise, unless our OL is going to step up bigly this year, I think we still need to work real hard on different way to run the ball as opposed to going all Richt-style and running up the middle all the time.
 
Our offense will look more like Oregon than Michigan which is not that much of a difference. I expect more passing but we will line up and try to establish physical dominance.
I'll be honest, that makes me nervous. More power to the staff if they can do it, I just hope we don't see a team that's still trying to establish that dominance half way through the season.
 
Fair enough, I don't disagree with anything you're saying. I just think people get scared when they hear "wing-t" or scream about how we need an air-raid scheme, while I think we need to run what we can best do. So maybe what we do this year starts to evolve in later years if we start getting the type of OL the coaches want. Maybe some years we're pass-heavy, and some years we run more. The only thing I absolutely don't want to see this year is an offense that keeps trying to do the same things and failing because we don't have the personnel or we've become predictable. We need to do what wins games, whatever that may be. Like if our 3 best players on offense are all RBs, then we need to figure out how to get them the ball as opposed to saying we're a pass-first team. Likewise, unless our OL is going to step up bigly this year, I think we still need to work real hard on different way to run the ball as opposed to going all Richt-style and running up the middle all the time.
krypto, you are not talking about the "Lashlee run up the middle" for 1 or 2 yards at best?...
Talk about predictable......unbelievable....but true............
Reality was, we were a pass first team playing rpo, that tried to mix it up with the same **** run up the middle over and over, and over......
 
Context and qualifications:

I've been relatively dormant for some years. For those of you who don't know me: I played at a local high school in the early-mid 2000's, played D3 college ball, then came back to coach at my alma mater for some years before deciding to pursue a career in law. I was on a staff that took down some of the top teams in Dade and I spent most of my time coaching defensive backs and linebackers. I have been out of the game since 2013 mainly because this career (and the firm I was at) absolutely consumes your life. Upon hearing about the coaches' clinic, I reached out to some old colleagues and they were cool enough to let me tag along the group for the weekend. The comments below are based on my own observations and opinions, and feedback from my colleagues.

*excuse the stream of conscious nature of my notes--if I don't make sense, let me know and I will explain*
*I will do my best to not overlap some of the notes from other people--I haven't read anything factually different from my memory/notes*

Day 1:
- Aside from parking, the whole registration process and general organization was great. The IPF is above average, but the facility could use some upgrades--this is not a secret. Overall, though, it seemed sufficient to run a top tier program. The registration period served as a mixer.
- The staff is enormous; they were everywhere, coming from all angles to chat it up. Of note, Kevin Steele was super cool and welcoming. Mario was happy and talking to everyone--it was a great vibe. Once the speakers started, it seems like the staff partially retreated to their offices to get some work done.
-- Kevin Steele: He was my favorite speaker of the night. Really focused on mentality, philosophy, game planning and how to coach tackling. A whole post could be dedicated to his presentation.
-- Jahmile Addae: focused on Press Man coverage. He has a very nice blend of intensity, professionalism and detail orientation. He was able to clearly present exactly what he is expecting from the guys. I was able to watch the DB drills on Day 2 and you could tell his classroom teaching was translating to the field. He ran drills specifically tailored for each phase of the technique.
-- Josh Gattis: I had a caffeine headache, so I couldn't stay for his whole presentation--went to get some coffee. What I caught in the beginning was all I needed to hear, however. He and I are of the school of thought that whatever you run on offense (scheme and philosophy) has the most effect on what becomes of your defense's mentality. In other words, if you're a finesse offense, your defense will be soft. This is where you see his defensive background coming through. Btw, our offense is essentially a modern WingT. I know because I'm a WingT guy. Its more of what I expected from Lashlee (less the pace) than what we actually got from Lashlee, which was air raid.
-- Alex Mirabal: this dude gets me fired up. He's the same guy from when he was at FIU--but interestingly enough, his teaching points have changed. I don't want to throw him under the bus, but he had some cutting edge techniques that had me upset hearing as defensive guy.
-- Coach O: Dude was an absolute trip. Shared the story of him coming to Miami; explained the importance of learning more than just your position group, but also staying in your lane and only coaching your own position; talked about the kind of dedication needed to be great; went into some technique stuff too. He presentation was kinda everywhere (like him) but made sense in a circular kind of way.
-- Jimmy Johnson: This was a dream come true for me. The whole thing didn't seem real. He spent most of his time talking about leadership and the importance of having good players and elevating your players and staff. If you watched the NFL films documentary on Jimmy, then you got the gist of his share. The thing I got most out of his share is the importance of investing in your people and keeping them on a sliding scale based on their value to the organization.
- I couldn't stick around for the position group breakout sessions. I regret taking my wife out to dinner instead of this. Lesson learned.

Day 2:
- I got in at 7 to make sure I got enough coffee to make it through the day. Breakfast was sufficient--just the standard continental breakfast items. Enough food for everyone and more.
-- Coach Feld: buddy came in like a bat out of **** around 7:45 to get his presentation going. I came away impressed. He spoke briefly about building mental toughness and how they define each of its aspects. One quote I liked was "You start to love the things that are hard once you get good at them." He said this in the context of coaching kids who don't necessarily love football and don't always want to participate in its rigors. It kind of gives them hope that pushing through the tough times will be worth it.
- Feld took us into the weight room and allowed his staff to present their training philosophy. They listed a hierarchy of 7 movements: neck strength>core strength>loaded hip hinge>leg strength>press strength>hamstrings>pullups (this is my recollection--might be wrong). They were super welcoming and cool. I am going to reach out to them to get some more info.
-- Darren Rizzi: took us outside and ran us through what felt like 50 special teams drills in like 5 minutes. It all made sense and it was all very fast--it was remarkable. What I got out of it is to avoid 11 on 11 special teams drilling and teaching. You should break special teams up into multiple individual units and specialize your teaching. The whole staff should be very involved in this. No one takes a break during special teams practice.
-- Sean McVey: Importance of having good players; philosophical stuff about blending the run and pass. I can expand this later if requested. This post is already too long.

[Practice]:
- We got a copy of the practice schedule and I did my best to follow along. Seems like we were either on time or early with the period schedule.
- Again, we have a million coaches. They were all fired up and they were all engaged. The player/coach(staff) ratio is clearly better than ever.
- I was able to watch DB and LB individual periods about 60/40 percent, respectively.
- Coach Strong is TOUGH on the guys. Sheesh. The kids were responding well, however. Their effort during individual period was outstanding. If there was a whiff of a player cutting a rep short or making a mental mistake, they were hearing about it in an uncomfortable way.
- There are probably 3-5 guys that all look roughly the same to me. No one really stood out other than 31. His twitch, bend and fluidity really stood out to me--seems to have wiry strength. I hope he doesn't have any setbacks--we need his help.
- The DB group was a little slower speed than the LBs. Their individual included brief teaching periods sprinkled throughout. Steele was working with the safeties, while Addae was working with the corners and vice versa. DVD was helping both groups where needed. Steele wasn't happy at all with one of the safeties for not paying attention and really let him know. Overall, the groups looked well organized.
- Check out my notes above on Addae's presentation regarding the corners. 7 looks surprisingly good and locked in. I'll be shocked if he doesn't help a lot this year. It looks like the staff is grooming him to be utility knife. His health will give us depth at safety, star and corner. 8 was doing 8 things like guessing on routes; 23 did a good job in coverage and gives consistent effort; 2 was back and looks head and shoulders better than the rest of them; no one else from that group got my attention. We need help here.
- Safety looked to have more serviceable guys. Seems like Steele himself will be the main one getting them coached up. I'm of the opinion that safeties should be an extension of the defensive coordinator. 0 looks fine in drills; he wants to be a leader. 3 is valuable; he's constantly coaching up the younger guys and was helping 7 learn star/safety; he looks just fine in drills. 15 is so twitchy and explosive that his footwork is a little awkward sometimes, but I don't think the coaches care too much. His physical talent is obvious and he gave good consistent effort during drills from what I saw. 27 looked ok. Steele chewed him out pretty good during drills for mentally busting a footwork drill. 15 made the same exact mistake and Steele was way more patient with him.
- Caught some QB drills right before the team periods started. 11 is freakish with his size and arm strength, but makes awful throws sometimes. Good thing he has plenty of time to work on his craft. We already know that 9 is in a league of his own. 13 looks good. I wouldn't be nervous to see him in the game.
--Team periods:
- Effort and energy was outstanding. Offensive ball carriers were running dudes over; tacklers were going beyond thud and knocking guys down.
- The offense looks good. 9 started off slow before eventually torching the defense repeatedly.
- OL will be a pleasant surprise I think.
- Defensive line is undersized and thin. Too many guys looking like 95 and not enough looking like 33. 12 seems to be a leader on the front; he is regularly getting guys lined up and helping with their assignments. 55 will help us quite a bit. 56 looks ok. 39 looks like he needs a red shirt year and a COVID year before he can help. This unit doesn't get me excited based on what I saw at practice. That being said, they did show good effort. Effort and tackling will go a long way on defense. I think Steele and Co. will squeeze the most out of them.
- On offense I felt like I was watching us run the WingT as times--it was great. We had quick motions on most plays, wingbacks (slot receivers) getting handoffs off misdirection, gap blocking, play action of the quick motion, toughness, etc. Things had rhyme and reason; I felt like I was watching series football.
- 15 and 22 are great fits for this offense. 15 would crush it as a WingT wingback and 22 would be a great WingT fullback.
- Our formations still allow us to run our regular passing game--TVD showed his regular timing and accuracy in the quick game.
- The offense excites me.


Summary:
I don't have the same points of reference as some other coaches who have been plugged into the game recently. However, based on the experience I do have, it was evident that the program is already being run at much higher level than in the past. If every practice is like what we saw, the aggregate needs to yield better results than the past administration (all things remaining equal, obviously). The roster needs a lot of work, but we have stud at QB, a few other very good players and we have the Avengers as a coaching staff. There is an sense importance in the building that I haven't witnessed during prior regimes (maybe that's just my perception). I'm really happy I got the opportunity to get out there.

Go Canes.
Good ****!
 
krypto, you are not talking about the "Lashlee run up the middle" for 1 or 2 yards at best?...
Talk about predictable......unbelievable....but true............
Reality was, we were a pass first team playing rpo, that tried to mix it up with the same **** run up the middle over and over, and over......
I mentioned Richt, but the truth is that's something we've struggled with for a lot of years. As I say, if this staff can change that I'm all for it. I just hope they don't choose that hill to die on.
 
krypto, you are not talking about the "Lashlee run up the middle" for 1 or 2 yards at best?...
Talk about predictable......unbelievable....but true............
Reality was, we were a pass first team playing rpo, that tried to mix it up with the same **** run up the middle over and over, and over......
Eh, Lashlee's run calls might have been too vanilla but for the first year and a half, Miami wasn't bad running the ball at all.

In 2020, they actually ran the ball more than they passed it. On average they ran it 38 times for 163 yards per game. 4.3 ypc. 66th in the nation, in rushing offense so not great but pretty decent.

The first 6 games of 2021 they ran the ball on average 36 times for 160 yards on 4.43 yards per carry. Then Cam Harris got hurt and the only running backs they had on the roster were Knighton and two freshmen. The second half of the year they fell to 32 carries for 97 yards (a pathetic) 3.01 yards per carry.

You can say that D'Eriq King made a big difference in the rushing numbers in 2020 and that's true but in 2021 he got hurt in week three and they still rushed for 322, 169 and 157 yards over the next three games. The biggest issue with Miami not being able to run the ball last year was that they didn't have any running backs who could be counted on to carry a load.
 
A statement was made in WestEndzone's OP, basically summarizing Gattis that finesse offense gets you finesse defense aka soft. I could see that, I mean you are playing your own team more than any other.

But like TruCane81 said, there just some teams you ain't bullying, especially teams like UGA and Bammer. Cristobal was pushing Oregon into more of a physical team vs. what they were known for, spread, speed, and finesse. But a well coached and conditioned team, with (on paper) less talent like Utah, they couldn't bully them or fool them with misdirection.

Gattis knew that he couldn't fool UGA or bully them, look at the highlights and you'll see he tried some different things vs what he used for Ohio State and Mich State. He called some good plays, more spread-like than wing t, those early drops killed their momentum. Then he got back into a rhythm calling some nice quick plays. But then tried to get cute with some misdirection slow developing fake reverse modern wing t style like they've been using all year and that was pretty much all she wrote after settling for a FG.

Hopefully Gattis continues to build off that and be multiple based on what we have and what the defense is giving us, his comments so far seem to enforce that he will, hope so.

Great post.

With the way Georgia was blowing up their line, that game was a lost cause. It was unsettling watching Michigan’s quarterback have no time even on quick throws.

I can only name one guy with a system to deal with that and that playbook was built to deal with pass rushers in the pros.

Gattis is a smart guy that doesn’t seem married to any particular concept. I love the quite that he wants to do everything and do it well. Games like that make great coaches better. I think Gattis will grow from that experience.
 
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I'll be honest, that makes me nervous. More power to the staff if they can do it, I just hope we don't see a team that's still trying to establish that dominance half way through the season.
Some people forget is that Gattis has spent more time with Joe Moorehead/James Franklin than Mike Lockley and his Michigan offense wasn’t much different from Oregon.

The issue with being physical. You either physical and die trying or you are not. There isn’t no in between. Gattis will adjust to the talent we have but the team identity will be line up and beat the guy across from you.
 
I think what fans always overlook is understanding the makeup of our roster.

There’s a reason why certain teams run certain schemes & others don’t.

Teams like Wisconsin & Iowa don’t run a prolific offense because they can’t. They work within the confines of their talent & capability, they recruit for it & wins games with ball control, clock management & Defense, because that’s their only way to level the playing field. If they have to gun it out with teams that are built to be more lethal they usually lose.

I don’t think anyone is attached to any specific scheme, it’s matter of looking at our roster & saying, what makes us the hardest to beat & gives us the best chance to score the most points? It’s about utilizing your weapons in an advantageous way to make it as difficult as possible for Defenses to stop you.
But Wisky and Iowa always manage to have at least one ringer WR and TE for at least a semblance of balance.
 
Some people forget is that Gattis has spent more time with Joe Moorehead/James Franklin than Mike Lockley and his Michigan offense wasn’t much different from Oregon.

The issue with being physical. You either physical and die trying or you are not. There isn’t no in between. Gattis will adjust to the talent we have but the team identity will be line up and beat the guy across from you.
I think that mentality of beating the man across from you is a must, it's just part of being tough, and you can't win without tough players. That said, as a coach you can demand your line straight up bully the other guys or have them use some finesse to beat them. Finesse can be a dirty word in football, but I don't think it needs to be. Think about pass blocking. You can be successful by allowing the defender to rush, but taking your man to the outside and past the QB. A lot of that was just letting him do what he wanted but redirecting him a little so he misses the target. You've still won that battle. You know it and he knows it, and that will frustrate him.
 
Some people forget is that Gattis has spent more time with Joe Moorehead/James Franklin than Mike Lockley and his Michigan offense wasn’t much different from Oregon.

The issue with being physical. You either physical and die trying or you are not. There isn’t no in between. Gattis will adjust to the talent we have but the team identity will be line up and beat the guy across from you.
Hopefully that Georgia beatdown ends up being to our benefit as it completely took Gattis out of his comfort zone and probably caused him to re-evaluate things.
 
Y’all worried about us running the football and taking the ball out of TVD’s hands when it’s not the case. We consistently couldn’t get first downs in short yardage situations. Our run blocking and scheme for running the ball has been atrocious so it is no surprise to me during spring PRACTICE, run blocking and running the football has been an emphasis.
 
Hopefully that Georgia beatdown ends up being to our benefit as it completely took Gattis out of his comfort zone and probably caused him to re-evaluate things.
They were completely overmatched against a historically great defense. I’m sure he went back and saw missed opportunities on film but not sure there’s a **** ton for him to learn from that game.
 
I don’t think we’ll run the exact same offense as Michigan, but there are things within the framework that he’ll maintain.

It’s rare for OC’s to completely abandon what they’ve used for most of their career, especially if it’s worked. That’s not to say he’s going to run the same Michigan offense, but what we can glean from Mich’s offense is a precursor of the type of play calling & sequences that he’s used to making.

Basically, it can be the same architect but building a different style house.

It won’t be identical to Michigan, but there will be some similarities.
TIFWIW, I heard the Offense will look closer to Bama’s (when he was there) than Michigan’s.
 
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I'll be honest, that makes me nervous. More power to the staff if they can do it, I just hope we don't see a team that's still trying to establish that dominance half way through the season.

There's no way we are running an Anthony Brown-looking offense with TVD

I refuse to believe that..
 
What type of offense do you see us running?

Well, I think everyone else has really gotten into the X-and-O's of what Gattis does, better than I can. So I wont even try to get into all that...

But I've always felt that whoever came into the job (from Mario on down on the offensive staff) would run a TVD-friendly system, that would play to his strengths, because ultimately I believe your offense should be tailored to what he does well (the QB). And TVD is a premiere college signal caller.

We got a gun, lets load the chamber and let him shoot bullets.

And quite frankly, we may not have the road-graders to really just jam the running game down peoples throat like Cristobal wants at this stage

I actually like our skill players top to bottom. We dont have the Oline that Michigan did last season -- and they were very good -- but I like our guys outside better by a lot.

People get concerned over terms like 'Wing-T', but keep this in mind, there are different versions of the spread. Some are about the run, some are Air Raid, etc. These things can be varied based on personnel and talent...
 
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