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And so it begins…..CFP rankings chat

We need PITT to win out until us. That would be huge especially with them already ranked.
 
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NC_Canes_11 said:
If GT wins out and loses to UGA, I have a hard time believing Miami would jump them. It’s clear “good losses” don’t hurt teams. And you’re gonna punish a team for losing to a presumed top 5 team when they’ve already clinched an ACC title berth? Same with Ville. Say they win out and then lose to UK. They beat us and are 10-2 going to ACC title. How are we gonna jump them?

Don’t get me wrong I hope y’all are right, but I’ll believe it when I see it. Bc those are the two most likely teams to win out IMO.
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If GT goes 10-2 with a loss to UGA their best win is….. Pitt? Duke? Neither of those are close to a ND win, and we’d have a win over Pitt in this scenario too, as well as a win over the team that beat them by two scores. The committee has us 1 spot below GT right now despite an extra loss because their resume is weak, we would definitely finish ahead of them in this scenario.

Louisville is a little trickier. But if they lose to Kentucky in the final game of the season yeah, they’d drop below us almost undoubtedly.
 
mosthated305 said:
Yes we do. Our only hope would be to blow out the final 4 teams but is that really going to happen with the way we play offense? Even if we win out, I'd expect a couple of them to be close.
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I don’t think Mario has it in his DNA to blow anyone out …every time we get up a couple scores he goes into a shell on offense and a prevent like defense that allows teams to go up and down the field to close the gap.
 
TwentySix said:
If GT goes 10-2 with a loss to UGA their best win is….. Pitt? Duke? Neither of those are close to a ND win, and we’d have a win over Pitt in this scenario too, as well as a win over the team that beat them by two scores. The committee has us 1 spot below GT right now despite an extra loss because their resume is weak, we would definitely finish ahead of them in this scenario.

Louisville is a little trickier. But if they lose to Kentucky in the final game of the season yeah, they’d drop below us almost undoubtedly.
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I hope you’re right but I won’t hold my breathe. And in that scenario we’d be better off having Ville win the ACC. Worst case is UVA wins out and loses the ACC ship to GT or Ville.
 
NC_Canes_11 said:
I hope you’re right but I won’t hold my breathe. And in that scenario we’d be better off having Ville win the ACC. Worst case is UVA wins out and loses the ACC ship to GT or Ville.
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In the event we win out I’d be more concerned about non-ACC teams to be honest. The reality is if we had an SEC logo on our jersey we’re probably sitting around 11 or 12 right now. If there’s even a possibility of squeezing another one in they’ll do it.

Just win out. That’s all I ask. If we get ****ed by the committee (again) so be it. But back to back 10 win seasons and I’d feel good about where we’re at.
 
TwentySix said:
In the event we win out I’d be more concerned about non-ACC teams to be honest. The reality is if we had an SEC logo on our jersey we’re probably sitting around 11 or 12 right now. If there’s even a possibility of squeezing another one in they’ll do it.

Just win out. That’s all I ask. If we get ****ed by the committee (again) so be it. But back to back 10 win seasons and I’d feel good about where we’re at.
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No doubt. Just look at Texas and OU. They should be in the 20s.

Not making the playoff makes this year a failure but going 10-2 is important for trying to hold together the entire program. Anything less and it gets Manny toxic all off-season.
 
NC_Canes_11 said:
No doubt. Just look at Texas and OU. They should be in the 20s.

Not making the playoff makes this year a failure but going 10-2 is important for trying to hold together the entire program. Anything less and it gets Manny toxic all off-season.
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Yep. Texas being that high is insane.

I know this isn’t popular here but I just can’t call 10-2 a failure. Missed opportunity, definitely, but this program just hasn’t done **** over the past two and a half decades to call back to back 10 win seasons a failure.
 
Most Important games each week:

- Wake > UVA week 11
- Duke > UVA week 12
- Pitt > GTech and Louisville > SMU week 13
- Wake > Duke week 14

Literally if we win out and those 5 games go our way, then I think we may be in the ACC Champ Game.

Teams we do NOT want to have same conference record as, because we'd LOSE the tiebreaker: UVA & Louisville.... Prob SMU too
Teams we WANT to have same record as, because we'd likely WIN the tiebreaker: GTech, Duke, Pitt

Rooting Guide, Essentially Root for: (team higher up on tier needs to beat team lower if H2H).
1. US to win out
2. Wake To win out
3. Pitt to win out
4. Boston College to win out
5. Duke to win out
6. VTech to Win out
7. Clemson to Win out

Week 11:
Wake > UVA ****
BC > SMU **
Cal > Louisville **

Week 12:
Duke > UVA ****
Clemson > Louisville **
BC > GTech *

Week 13:
Pitt > GTech ****
Louisville > SMU *** (Its easier for us to win a tie breaker over SMU with same conference record than over Louisville).
UNC > Duke **

Week 14:
Wake > Duke ****
VTech > UVA ***
Cal > SMU **
 
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scrantoncane said:
Don’t want to see undefeated byu lose in the big 12 CG and have a claim to get in over us with 1 and only loss being in a championship game. Can’t penalize them for that loss. Root for TT.
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No, you root for BYU to win out and go undefeated including the title. That would give Texas Tech at least two losses and potentially Texas Tech or Utah three losses if they’re in the championship game.
 
DMoney said:
I’m much more confident about 10-2 Miami making the playoffs than I am about us winning four straight. If we finish like that, I’d bet we are in.
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Yeah, but you also told us that Lofton was a guy as much as I love you, man
 
Moonman said:
What we've learned in the CFP era is that it's pointless to schedule tough non-conference games. We should just schedule cupcakes because early season wins versus tough opponents mean absolutely nothing.
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That’s a moot point we won them this year. That’s not what’s costing us.
 
Calinative said:
Most Important games each week:

- Wake > UVA week 11
- Duke > UVA week 12
- Pitt > GTech and Louisville > SMU week 13
- Wake > Duke week 14

Literally if we win out and those 5 games go our way (can maybe be offset with those teams losing a diff game, but these are the most likely), then we're in the ACC Champ Game.

Teams we do NOT want to have same conference record as, because we'd LOSE the tiebreaker: UVA & Louisville
Teams we WANT to have same record as, because we'd likely WIN the tiebreaker: GTech, Duke, Pitt, SMU

Rooting Guide, Essentially Root for: (team higher up on tier needs to beat team lower if H2H).
1. US to win out
2. Wake To win out
3. Pitt to win out
4. Boston College to win out
5. Duke to win out
6. VTech to Win out
7. Clemson to Win out

Week 11:
Wake > UVA ****
BC > SMU **
Cal > Louisville **

Week 12:
Duke > UVA ****
Clemson > Louisville **
BC > GTech *

Week 13:
Pitt > GTech ****
Louisville > SMU *** (Its easier for us to win a tie breaker over SMU with same conference record than over Louisville).
UNC > Duke **

Week 14:
Wake > Duke ****
VTech > UVA ***
Cal > SMU **
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if those things happen we are in tiebreaker situations and then there are weird ones that are not guaranteeing anything
 
DMoney said:
There are other scenarios but this is a straightforward one to me:

- GT loses to Georgia
- Louisville with no Isaac Brown and tricky schedule drops at least one
- Vandy loses to Auburn or @Tennessee
- 10-2 no conference title game Utah is not getting in over 10-2 Miami
- OU loses to either Bama, Mizzou or LSU
- Texas loses to either TAMU or @Georgia

Those are all pretty conservative picks. Vandy concerns me a little but is the SEC really going to go from 3 bids to 5 bids? Who is their best win?

The hard part is winning four straight. History and trajectory says we flop. I think the committee is baking that in. But if we’re sitting there at 10-2 with good wins, I’d be very surprised if we weren’t in.
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The most straightforward one possible is us winning the ACC.
 
Ispyin said:
if those things happen we are in tiebreaker situations and then there are weird ones that are not guaranteeing anything
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We'd win a multi-team tiebreaker over GTech, Duke, Pitt. Smu is the only real questionable one if it's a multi-team one. But yeah probably need them to drop 2 as well.
We'd lose any tie breaker over Louisville and UVA pretty sure.

It goes h2h, then win% among tied teams, then win% in common games... Honestly It probably was just straight up better with divisions. This is pretty ******* stupid how this **** works now.

Regardless I think we need UVA to lose 2, and SMU, Duke, GTech to lose 1 more. It's much easier if SMU just drops 2 more though. I think all signs point to Louisville being one of the ACCCG teams regardless, so whether we are tied with them or not doesn't matter especially since they have the tiebreaker over us H2H. So if they finish with 1 Conference loss its fine.

I think it's entirely realistic its a 5team tiebreaker between us, GTech, Pitt, Duke, and SMU.
 
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TwentySix said:
Yep. Texas being that high is insane.

I know this isn’t popular here but I just can’t call 10-2 a failure. Missed opportunity, definitely, but this program just hasn’t done **** over the past two and a half decades to call back to back 10 win seasons a failure.
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If they lay an egg in the bowl it would feel failure ish to me
 
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DMoney said:
Straight from the horse’s mouth. This is a prove-it ranking. And I don’t blame them. This team needs to show why it’s different from the last 20:

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Well fortunately they gave us the blueprint

Now I fully expect us to beat Syracuse 22-13 in a statement win where we really avenge last years debacle and average 2.1 yards per carry
 
Just being honest here. Do we look like a team who belongs in the playoffs? Absolutely not. Our eye test is killing us more than anything. Although Texas doesn’t deserve their ranking
 
Calinative said:
Most Important games each week:

- Wake > UVA week 11
- Duke > UVA week 12
- Pitt > GTech and Louisville > SMU week 13
- Wake > Duke week 14

Literally if we win out and those 5 games go our way (can maybe be offset with those teams losing a diff game, but these are the most likely), then we're in the ACC Champ Game.

Teams we do NOT want to have same conference record as, because we'd LOSE the tiebreaker: UVA & Louisville
Teams we WANT to have same record as, because we'd likely WIN the tiebreaker: GTech, Duke, Pitt, SMU

Rooting Guide, Essentially Root for: (team higher up on tier needs to beat team lower if H2H).
1. US to win out
2. Wake To win out
3. Pitt to win out
4. Boston College to win out
5. Duke to win out
6. VTech to Win out
7. Clemson to Win out

Week 11:
Wake > UVA ****
BC > SMU **
Cal > Louisville **

Week 12:
Duke > UVA ****
Clemson > Louisville **
BC > GTech *

Week 13:
Pitt > GTech ****
Louisville > SMU *** (Its easier for us to win a tie breaker over SMU with same conference record than over Louisville).
UNC > Duke **

Week 14:
Wake > Duke ****
VTech > UVA ***
Cal > SMU **
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ND @ Pitt is the most important remaining game on the schedule and it isn’t on your list.

If ND loses, they are out and a spot opens up. Additionally, Pitt gets ranked even higher so it’ll be a better win for Miami.

If pitt doesn’t win that game it’s a very tough path.
 
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