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Analysis of the (Early) Coaching Candidates

FL Cane said:
... Paul Hilton "Butch" Davis...

... Mike Leach:...

... Mario Cristobal...

... Dino Babers:...

... Rex Ryan: ...

... Greg Schiano: ...

... Rob Chudzinski: ...

... Mark Stoops...

... Lane Kiffin: ...

... Brent Venables: Solid Hire. ...

... Matt Campbell: ....
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I will say this, regarding Butch. The best decision he ever made was to go to FIU and build that program. In 2015 two things held him back from the job.

1) Bad blood with some of the boosters and holdovers in the Admin.
2) Hadn't coached since he was at UNC, and he was slightly above average if anything there.

He's exceeded all expectations at FIU and proved that he's still got it. That's going to go a long way in his chances for the job this time around.
 
Great write up. Nothing "just cuz".

Refreshing here.

My $.02...

B Davis- I believe a great hire, has unfinshed business with much to prove. Will be tough to overcome Ghost of Paul Dee. Dee hated him for departure from Miami and tormented him as NCAA power broker. Dee supporters still linger at UM.

Pirate- passing him over will have ZERO to do with football, 100% to do with national politics. He's not only a Libertarian-Republican, but a TRUMP Libertarian-Republican. SEVERAL BoT members where broker for Hillary 2016. They will light themselves on fire befire they allow Leach to step foot on campus in any capacity. They dont want him triggering snowflakes in deep blue Dade.

Super Mario- A hot name with deep personal ties to area. I have a bad feeling his tenure might not end well in Coral Gables if picked, but wouldn't hate the hire.

Bonus.. Manolo- All same as Mario, but with legitimate political juice in his court. Don't be surprised if he gets picked or is oh so close behind the scenes.

Dino- Another hot name. Could he be the one? I have a feeling better hire than Mario/Manolo. Does he fit in SoFL though?

**** Rexy- Splash hire flr sure. Has JJ's we are gonna kick your *** mentality. Love the personality, don't love how his HC gigs habe ended EVERYWHERE he has been. Sometimes full **** Rexy is too much **** Rexy. The fetish shops will see a bump in nylons though.

Greg Schiano- Needs to stay a DC. Not HC of Miami.

Chuds- Invisible since firing... HUGE RED FLAG.

Stoopy- Meh. Don't think he is the one to restore Miami to greatness.

Lane Kardashian- Has strongest twitter game in CFB. Like too much tequila, IT NEVER ENDS WELL. Would be cool though to see blank faced grad assistant carrying around Monte's reanimated head lkke Twiki and Dr Theopolis on the sidelines.

Veny Ven- Strong value added staff addition. Can he be successful as the man? I think he is more destined as a Bud Foster type.

Campbell Soup- Another hot name. Hard to tell. Maybe a diamond waiting to get mined, maybe Applewhite/Fuente level of flame out when given the reigns.
 
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reg said:
Remember way back in the day, when we were hoping and praying that Richt would at least make changes to the offensive coaching staff?

Now we are over 20 threads deep about our next HC. Man, what a f'ucking day! Even my atheist brethren would have to agree, God is good!
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Gatorhater said:
Butch had more 1st round draft picks than Nick's 10 great years in five penalty restricted recruiting classes. Nick is clearly the best coach in college football. Butch is the only one capable of taking him down.
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And none of that has anything to do with what I wrote.
 
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Empirical Cane said:
Pirate- passing him over will have ZERO to do with football, 100% to do with national politics. He's not only a Libertarian-Republican, but a TRUMP Libertarian-Republican. SEVERAL BoT members where broker for Hillary 2016. They will light themselves on fire befire they allow Leach to step foot on campus in any capacity. They dont want him triggering snowflakes in deep blue Dade.
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Seriously?? You had to bring politics into this?
 
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Pixelated bukake said:
She's not wrong, especially with the failure to recruit and develop a QB.
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Miami isn't the problem. The HC's failure was the problem. She painted a picture of a failed program, when the main problem was that the coach took the job as a sunset cruise. Pop Heupel or Mike Leach into the HC position and Miami is a lock for the ACC championship game next year. Even losses to UF and FSU won't keep Miami from 10-2 and in the ACC championship game, then recruiting starts taking care of itself.
 
FL Cane said:
Forgot about him. He's done great at Troy with a 35-16 record all time and a 3-0 record in bowls. Also has back to back to back double digit win seasons. The only issue with him is that he's never been an HC in the P5, and is really young at 38 years old. He's probably too much of a risk for the Admin since they need a proven commodity now.
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Neither did JJ, Erickson, The god Butch.
 
loreste said:
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Seriously?? You had to bring politics into this?
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Im not bringing politics into this. The Pirate does.

As an avowed very public Trump Republican, NO WAY a BoT full of Dems hires him.

Just is what it is.

You do know where Wash St is right? Texas Tech? He isnt head coach at U Wash FOR A REASON.

His triggering snowflakes though would be AWESOME, just lots lf drama for program.

Seriously.
 
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FL Cane said:
It's been a whirlwind day with a lot of names thrown around, but here are some of the popular ones. Here's a breakdown (my two cents) of them in no particular order. Sorry for the length.

Paul Hilton "Butch" Davis: Butch needs no introduction. He compiled a 51-20 record (4-0 in Bowls) at the U and built the greatest CFB team of all time. Jimmy Johnson himself has said that Butch is the best closer and evaluator he's ever seen. All of this, for the most part, while he was under crippling sanctions. He was subpar in the NFL with a record of 24-35 and built a respectable program at UNC. At FIU, he's blown expectations out of the water by going 17-9 and leading FIU to its best season ever. He was majorly interested in the job back in 2015 and would jump at the opportunity to come back here.

Advantages: Butch is only making $1 Million a year at FIU, and he'd probably come back on the cheap in exchange for tons of money for a coaching staff; knows what it takes to win here; loves the city & culture; South Fla. recruiting ties; major fan support (for the most part); major connections in CFB and the NFL, would put together a top staff; top talent evaluator and recruiter.

Disadvantages: Burned a lot of bridges here when he left in 2000, one of the reasons why he wasn't a more serious contender back in 2015; it's been two decades since he built an elite team; 67 years old (don't think this will matter to the admin and shouldn't).

Mike Leach: Everyone knows about the pirate and what he can do. All time he's 133-83 (7-7 in bowls) and is currently 48-40 at WSU. He just capped off an 11-2 season and had WSU as a playoff contender most of the season. It's no secret that Leach wants to be at Miami and has openly lobbied for the job before. He's got exciting offenses and a fiery personality.

Advantages: Offensive guru; a passionate coach that could give a f*ck what people think about him; wants to be at Miami; has consistently won throughout his career.

Disadvantages: Controversial public figure (I don't care about this but the school does for PR); hasn't had the best defenses; not a great recruiter; may not mesh with the Miami culture; lots of the same people that didn't give him a look back in 2015 are still boosters or on the BOT today.

Mario Cristobal: Mario is another guy that needs no introduction. He's well known to our fanbase having played on the 89 & 91 championship teams, and having been our TE and OL coach from 2004-2006. As an HC at FIU and Oregon, he's compiled a 35-52 record all time (1-2 bowls) but many of those losses were due to his taking over of a brand new and bare FIU football program. He had good seasons at FIU and won them their first bowl game. This past year at Oregon he went 8-4 (chance at win #9 tomorrow in the RedBox Bowl v.s. Mich. State). He's currently got a top ten recruiting class signed on for next year, along with top facilities and all the Nike money in the world that he could want or need.

Advantages: Miami is his dream job; born and raised here; he and his family love Miami; a beast at recruiting; can lock down South Florida recruiting with the right resources; players love him; has lots of supporters inside the Admin and with Boosters, BOT, etc; 48 years old; coached under Saban.

Disadvantages: Hasn't won big anywhere, his best season has been this current one at 8-5; has only coached one season in the P5; has a $10 Million dollar buyout with Oregon set to go down to $8 million when it's too late; Oregon could get into a bidding war with us over him, they can outbid us and don't want to lose another coach.

Dino Babers: Without a doubt, one of the hottest HC's in college football. All time he's 55-35 (2-0 in bowls) having had HC stints at Eastern Illinois, Bowling Green, and Syracuse. At each of those schools, he's had double-digit win seasons, and was only at Eastern Illinois and Bowling Green for two seasons each. This past season he went 10-3 with a Syracuse team he'd built from back to back 4-8 records. This excerpt is from FootballScoop, which put it best:

"One sitting head coach that ACC head coaches would not like The U to hire is Syracuse’s Dino Babers. Babers has zero connection to the program or the area, but that could be immaterial in this case. Like the Johny Cash song, he’s been everywhere, man. Babers had no connection to Eastern Illinois, Bowling Green or Syracuse, but he took those jobs and won there. He’s 55-35 in seven seasons over those three stops, and his 10-3 mark this fall was perhaps his best coaching job. If he can win 10 games and inject life and points into the program at Syracuse, what could he do with South Florida athletes in his backyard?"

Advantages: Has won everywhere he's coached; took a horrible Syracuse program to 10-3; has beaten Clemson and other ranked teams; runs a physical and fast offense; great motivator; players love him; nobody in the ACC wants him at Miami.

Disadvantages: Just signed an extension at Cuse; has zero connections or past known interest with Miami; has only had one good season in the P5 (took over a trash program though); has it made at Cuse, low expectations and his family seems to love it there; may not mesh is South Florida living and culture.

Other Candidates:

Rex Ryan: Literally WTF. Guy has no business being here. The same players pushing for him to be our HC were the same guys on the 2000 team that wanted Coker in charge after Butch left.
Greg Schiano: If Shalala was still here maybe (she loved him) but he doesn't have a chance unless everyone and their mother turns down this job.
Rob Chudzinski: Like Schiano, he's a perpetual UM coaching candidate. Would not be a bad hire overall, but hasn't been doing anything since he got fired by the Colts.
Mark Stoops: Has done a great job at UK, was the DB coach at UM from 2001-2003. He's got it made at Kentucky though, and I don't think he's the splash hire the admin is looking for.
Lane Kiffin: An unmitigated disaster that should be avoided at all costs. Has sucked everywhere he's been: Oakland, UT, USC. No doubt he learned under Saban, for the better, but he's too much of a risk.
Brent Venables: Solid Hire. Has been with Dabo at Clemson for six years, definitely has learned how to build a winner. Don't know if he wants to leave Clemson though or if he'd mesh down here.
Matt Campbell: Would be an interesting hire, took an Iowa State team from trash to extremely competitive. Lots of supposed NFL interest in him though, and no known interest in the job. Haven't heard his name thrown around as much as I thought it'd be.
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With regards to Mario - when you say with the right resources - do you mean bags?
 
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CaneCounty said:
With regards to Mario - when you say with the right resources - do you mean bags?
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I mean a top coaching staff and administrative support team. Mario brings a lot to the table, but concerns about his lack of outright success would be mitigated with a top staff. He's got lots of support at UM, but has to convince the right people that he's ready for this job.
 
If you want experience, my top two choices are:
Butch Davis
Mike Leach

If you want young blood, my top two choices are:
Neal Brown
Matt Campbell
 
loreste said:
Butch isn't going to be hired, he is not well liked over there.
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Here's the thing:

  • We have been incredibly mediocre since Butch players left the program (towards the end of Coker's tenure). We need to win NOW and get back to being elite.
  • We do need to finish this recruiting cycle strong or it sets us back even further.
  • The cheapest coach will be Butch (he's only making $1 million at FIU). Given that amounts will be owed to some of the existing coaches, Butch also works the best with the budget and can hire great assistants (which he clearly has the connections and gravitas to do).
  • He also knows South Florida really well and is physically located here; AND
  • He happened to have assembled the greatest CFB team ever!

With all that said, whoever "doesn't like Butch over there" needs to stop being childish and put the best interests of the program first. That's the adult thing to do and the best decision. Anyone who can't do that has a pea for a brain.
 
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