An area of both hope and concern on Offense

[Notsince1985]

Georgia's tempo had a lot to do with having Kirby Freeman as QB

 

[Canesfan1899]

Agree that we need to make sure we get Herndon on the field as much as possible. Kids a matchup nightmare out of the backfield. With that said also agree that the new dude will likely be the lead sledge hammer in short yardage.


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[Billy D Williams]

Just like you change formations, the pace should quicken to keep to defenses from making adjustments and changing personnel. The pace should be more deliberate in short yard and 3rd and long situations.

 

[k9cane]

Exactly how I see the FB situation. And you're dead on when it comes to pace. There's absolutely no reason with our QB and the weapons we have that we should be bleeding the clock. Folden might have done that in an effort to protect his defensive ranking to get people off his back.

Richt needs to pick up the pace dramatically. I'd like to see us higher ranked than the 30-40 range in plays/game with our QB and skill talent.

In recent years, not only was Miami bad-to-mediocre, worse they were boring to watch as they played this grinding, slow pace. It was maddening to see one of the most favorite parts of your life be reduced to becoming a chore( watching this pace/tempo) While the rest of the country was trying to get in more plays per game, UM was doing it seemed just the opposite. Talk about being a beta tape in a Blue Ray world.

I don't expect Richt to go full Chip Kelly but people forget he was waaaay ahead of the curve back in the Charlie Ward 'fast-break' days of the early-to-mid 90's.

 

[CanesBallin39]

**Braxton Berrios will be a prominent component to Miami’s offense if he is able to stay healthy.

“He’ll be an every down option. With the tempo that we want to go at, I’m hoping to be two-deep in 3-receiver sets. I don’t see him as a situational guy….he can do it all,” Richt said.

Hopefully we see that philosophy in-season.

Accidentally down voted you brotha my bad

 

[The Franchise]

Richt needs to make football fun again down here. Enough with this slow timid reactionary **** on both sides of the ball that has plagued this program seemingly forever. Go out there and empty your fcking guns and have fun in the process. I think our guys will play a lot better if they're cut loose and allowed to play fast and just get after people on both sides.

Open up the offense and hunt scalps on defense. Fans will love it too. The house will be loud. It'll all feed off itself.

 

[Deleted User]

If you can't convert third downs or stop other teams from converting 3rd downs, it don't matter how fast you go. If you convert 3 or 4 more 3rd downs and stop 3 or 4 more by the other team, Miami is in the top 60 in plays last year. Playing faster can help get you a few more plays a game, but being efficient with the plays you run helps a lot more. The right balance of those two, along with getting some stops on third down and it doesn't matter where you rank in plays per game. Alabama was 49th and they run at a pedestrian pace, but they get first downs and they get stops on defense.

Getting stops early on drives and not giving up 12 play drives that end in punts or conversely giving up a long TD instead of watching a team methodically move the ball down the field for 8 minutes before scoring a TD should play a part in helping increase offensive plays per game. I'm looking forward to the aggressive defensive mindset, even if it gives up big plays, because it should also translate to being aggressive on offense, even if the offense isn't playing at break neck speed.

 

[k9cane]

Richt needs to make football fun again down here. Enough with this slow timid reactionary **** on both sides of the ball that has plagued this program seemingly forever. Go out there and empty your fcking guns and have fun in the process. I think our guys will play a lot better if they're cut loose and allowed to play fast and just get after people on both sides.

Open up the offense and hunt scalps on defense. Fans will love it too. The house will be loud. It'll all feed off itself.

Hey, that's a great slogan - Make Hurricane Football Great Again( and fun!!)

 

[Deleted User]

Richt needs to make football fun again down here. Enough with this slow timid reactionary **** on both sides of the ball that has plagued this program seemingly forever. Go out there and empty your fcking guns and have fun in the process. I think our guys will play a lot better if they're cut loose and allowed to play fast and just get after people on both sides.

Open up the offense and hunt scalps on defense. Fans will love it too. The house will be loud. It'll all feed off itself.

I should have waited for you to respond again and saved myself some thinking and typing. Haha. I agree with the thinking, and believe that by cutting guys loose they'll actually be more efficient as well. Too much over thinking and trying to react, instead of just taking action this last few years.

 

[jerzeycane]

Herndon and Njoku are the dudes that should allow everybody else to get off this year.

I don't see an answer for them. If you play too many DB's, they aren't Jimmy Graham types that don't block. We'll walk down the field with Njoku and Herndon shoveling your DB's into the ground. You play your linebackers and you're going to have to over help to keep them from wrecking the game. Richards, Bruce, Berrios, and Coley should see a ton of one on ones.

 

[Richard Belding]

I don't agree. Our o-line is suspect....having a fullback out there will help. Also, we were terrible at short yardage situations, red zone, third downs and our running game was garbage against good defenses (20 yards rushing against FSU)

Fullback sets will help with this. I just want to get back to playing physical football. Plus it sounds like this fullback is a beast and not some scrub

That said, I think we'll see I formation, two tight end sets, and three receiver sets in different mixtures. Herndon will get his touches IMO. Lots of play action too

Call me old school but i believe if you can RUN the ball, and you can stop the other team from running the ball, then you are a pretty good football team

 

[Pentagon Cane]

Well, if you're looking for a rapid pace of play then I don't think you'll find it with Mark Richt. Even before Mike Bobo called plays, Richt is deliberate. I'll be happy if he get plays in on time and he makes the right adjustments. Should not be a problem with a junior at quarterback with 25 career starts.

He wasn't deliberate at FSU or in his early days at UGA. He actually asked officials to spot the ball more quickly when he was still calling plays but was denied.

Richt doubts that up-tempo offenses add to injuries | Times Free Press

Richt started quickening the tempo as Florida State's offensive coordinator in the early 1990s, adding that the Seminoles were operating at a "breakneck pace" before he took the job in Athens. He initially tried to speed up the Bulldogs with a no-huddle offense led by quarterback David Greene.

The Bulldogs averaged 73.1 plays a game in 2003, but when Richt met with then SEC coordinator of officials Bobby Gaston at the 2004 SEC spring meetings and asked officials to spot the ball more quickly, his request was denied. Gaston reasoned that at least 12 seconds had to elapse for the officials to be set.

Those numbers are before no-huddle became the norm too.

So the one thing that Richt demonstrated as an offensive coordinator is his flexibility. Yes, they went fast break with Charlie Ward. As I recall in 1992 they were down against Georgia Tech and he had to go no huddle, shot gun to come from behind. Ward really excelled and Ward stay in gun most of the time going forward.

He's always been balanced almost 50/50 between run and pass. He was still 60/40 run/pass with Greene. Georgia also had terrific defenses in 2002 and 2003.

I do see your point.

 

[jerzeycane]

I don't agree. Our o-line is suspect....having a fullback out there will help. Also, we were terrible at short yardage situations, red zone, third downs and our running game was garbage against good defenses (20 yards rushing against FSU)

Fullback sets will help with this. I just want to get back to playing physical football. Plus it sounds like this fullback is a beast and not some scrub

That said, I think we'll see I formation, two tight end sets, and three receiver sets in different mixtures. Herndon will get his touches IMO. Lots of play action too

Call me old school but i believe if you can RUN the ball, and you can stop the other team from running the ball, then you are a pretty good football team

Yeah running the ball is cool

Couple of factors to consider:

-Best Player on the team is the QB

-Rules don't allow for defenders to contact receivers

-We have extreme mismatch advantages in the passing game

While I think our O-Line will be way better than you're giving them credit for, even if they perform at an optimum level, they won't be the mismatch that Njoku and Herndon are. It's critical that we exploit that mismatch as much as possible. As Lu alluded to, the beauty of Njoku and Herndon is there ability to impact the running game as well as being too much to handle out in space.

Marquez should be for tone setting and grinding out games we have in hand. Like any other sport, your best players should see the most time.

 

[LuCane]

I don't agree. Our o-line is suspect....having a fullback out there will help. Also, we were terrible at short yardage situations, red zone, third downs and our running game was garbage against good defenses (20 yards rushing against FSU)

Fullback sets will help with this. I just want to get back to playing physical football. Plus it sounds like this fullback is a beast and not some scrub

That said, I think we'll see I formation, two tight end sets, and three receiver sets in different mixtures. Herndon will get his touches IMO. Lots of play action too

Call me old school but i believe if you can RUN the ball, and you can stop the other team from running the ball, then you are a pretty good football team

If our biggest competitive advantage weren't our QB, I'd be more inclined to see this point of view. I get that running the ball helps Kaaya, too, but you can run the ball just fine with Herndon and Njoku in the majority of your sets. As I said in the original post, I fully understand the need for a FB in short yardage and lead plays, which is why I conceded 10-15% of plays to having him on the field.

If we run 75 plays a game (I hope), that's in the 8-12 range. More than that keeps better players and bigger advantages off the field.

 

[Pearson704]

Last year, we were 96th out of 128 teams in offensive plays per game. Unfortunately, Georgia was 126th of 128.

With early camp talk being almost weirdly around the new FB, thought I could express two concerns:

1. My hope is the FB only sees close to 10-15% of offensive downs. For a lot of reasons. Yes, I understand the added benefit of a physical tone. I've been harping for years about our inability to commit to any kind of power run game. It hurt the OL - from tone and mentality to outcomes. However, you don't need to run straight I-form in order to flash the power run game. Many teams now do it from the 'Gun. Further, with a utility player of Chris Herndon's caliber, I think we're giving up flexibility and potential mismatches.

You can run Herndon out of broken I sets, in motion and in the H-Back role. When I think of him, I think of Fred Baxter of the Jets, who played TE and some H-Back. In the Curtis Martin (whose style isn't totally different from Knowshown Moreno, a player Walton reminds me of) days and before, Baxter's versatility was used in a number of different "Pro sets" where he'd crack down on counter plays, run combination routes out of the backfield and get in the flats. While Williams (the new FB) may help us in short yardage and downhill plays, Herndon can beat LBs in the flats and perhaps even get vertical down the seams.

2. Pace of play. We've read early on about the players "sprinting everywhere." How they want the guys to "finish" and be focused. My hope is Georgia's pace last year was dictated partly by injuries and mainly by a playcaller who was not Richt. One of the biggest complaints of the James Coley tenure was that, after his initial scripted set of plays (often very good), it seemed he just ran out of bullets and scenarios. And, plays would come in so slowly that it left fans (and players on the field) frantic. Coach Richt has to be as focused as he wants his players and hopefully think quickly so we can get into the 30-40 ranking range in plays/game - which would essentially give us 75-77 plays per game and a small boost of 10% or so.

Herndon = Charles Clay. He can be a true hybrid FB/TE

 

[MedleyCane]

Richt needs to make football fun again down here. Enough with this slow timid reactionary **** on both sides of the ball that has plagued this program seemingly forever. Go out there and empty your fcking guns and have fun in the process. I think our guys will play a lot better if they're cut loose and allowed to play fast and just get after people on both sides.

Open up the offense and hunt scalps on defense. Fans will love it too. The house will be loud. It'll all feed off itself.

Hey, that's a great slogan - Make Hurricane Football Great Again( and fun!!)

I second that.
Also, with regards to recruiting, I want to build that wall somewhere in Central Florida and have
the barbarians from north Florida pay for it.

 

[Pearson704]

I don't agree. Our o-line is suspect....having a fullback out there will help. Also, we were terrible at short yardage situations, red zone, third downs and our running game was garbage against good defenses (20 yards rushing against FSU)

Fullback sets will help with this. I just want to get back to playing physical football. Plus it sounds like this fullback is a beast and not some scrub

That said, I think we'll see I formation, two tight end sets, and three receiver sets in different mixtures. Herndon will get his touches IMO. Lots of play action too

Call me old school but i believe if you can RUN the ball, and you can stop the other team from running the ball, then you are a pretty good football team

Yeah running the ball is cool

Couple of factors to consider:

-Best Player on the team is the QB

-Rules don't allow for defenders to contact receivers

-We have extreme mismatch advantages in the passing game

While I think our O-Line will be way better than you're giving them credit for, even if they perform at an optimum level, they won't be the mismatch that Njoku and Herndon are. It's critical that we exploit that mismatch as much as possible. As Lu alluded to, the beauty of Njoku and Herndon is there ability to impact the running game as well as being too much to handle out in space.

Marquez should be for tone setting and grinding out games we have in hand. Like any other sport, your best players should see the most time.

smash everyone in the mouth first and then get cute with the passing attack off tempo after positive runs. Let them think about that run all game.

 

[Jeeperaf]

If you can't convert third downs or stop other teams from converting 3rd downs, it don't matter how fast you go. If you convert 3 or 4 more 3rd downs and stop 3 or 4 more by the other team, Miami is in the top 60 in plays last year. Playing faster can help get you a few more plays a game, but being efficient with the plays you run helps a lot more. The right balance of those two, along with getting some stops on third down and it doesn't matter where you rank in plays per game. Alabama was 49th and they run at a pedestrian pace, but they get first downs and they get stops on defense.

Getting stops early on drives and not giving up 12 play drives that end in punts or conversely giving up a long TD instead of watching a team methodically move the ball down the field for 8 minutes before scoring a TD should play a part in helping increase offensive plays per game. I'm looking forward to the aggressive defensive mindset, even if it gives up big plays, because it should also translate to being aggressive on offense, even if the offense isn't playing at break neck speed.

Absolutely. Keep your offense efficient and scoring on the field and have your defense make stops and efficiently getting off the field.

Tough team to beat when you have those two dimensions working together. Winning is doable when one is out of balance, just harder.

 

[ghost2]

Having seen a bit of the Richt-Bobo years up close (2005-2007) and having followed UGA some since then, I can speak a little bit to the offensive style/tempo they used to run. "Used to" - of course this may have little or no bearing on what he's going to run here, but it's still fun to speculate.

For the fullback fetishists - I don't we'll see the Power I as our base formation. Richt likes/liked to use shotgun 3 WR his base and go from there. He used it with DJ Shockley, Stafford, and Murray. The fullback will most likely be a wrinkle (H-back pass catcher) or a short yardage pounder.

This speaks to my next pint about pacing. As mentioned above, Richt is far from Chip Kelly. But what you will see is a more deliberate, logical pace to the play calling. One of the things I liked about UGA's offensive playcalling is that, for the most part, it made sense. He sets up plays in a logical sequence and uses deception when it makes sense to do so.

I do think we'll see our number of plays per game increase, if for no other reason than I don't think we'll be caught trying to outsmart ourselves nearly as much.

I'll post more when I have more time.

 

[Notsince1985]

Richt needs to make football fun again down here. Enough with this slow timid reactionary **** on both sides of the ball that has plagued this program seemingly forever. Go out there and empty your fcking guns and have fun in the process. I think our guys will play a lot better if they're cut loose and allowed to play fast and just get after people on both sides.

Open up the offense and hunt scalps on defense. Fans will love it too. The house will be loud. It'll all feed off itself.

Hey, that's a great slogan - Make Hurricane Football Great Again( and fun!!)

That's the worst ******* slogan ever