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Almost everybody that can come back should be back next year…

BeastMode said:
They are all returning to college, the question would be is it Miami. I think Miami lets Brown go. He isn’t good enough and always injured.

The rest I think come back but maybe EOC takes an NIL somewhere else if OJ and Lucas come back
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Brown needs to go especially with the dbs coming in.
 
nvlahos said:
Mensah
Moten
Barkate
Fletcher - late rounds

Only NFL talent out of draftable guys

Wilson looks like a bust, Blount has done nothing, Scott needs more time and good film. Samson needs more time and good film, nobody in the back 7 is ready

Last year we had Cici, Mesidor, Bain, Bell, Cooper, Scott, Thomas all get drafted
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Yeah good post there. Honestly your post made me realize the nfl draft will show that thing team top to bottom isn’t as good as last year
 
112_cane said:
The playofff run and portal window I'm sure played a part. But everyone wanted Wilson. He just hasnt performed like he has in the past. Mensah and Barkate where hits...the rest not so much.
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When we got Wilson I said my main was concern was the fact that, what wilson is good at, is not how we play and let our DEs do.

Wilson was let loose, go get the qb at Mizzou. We ask our DEs to do something way different.

And that concern seems to be playing out. Idk why we dont let our DEs loose on 3rd amd long. Seems they were also playing to contain qb scrambles.
 
Da Jumbo Mutombo said:
112_cane said:
The playofff run and portal window I'm sure played a part. But everyone wanted Wilson. He just hasnt performed like he has in the past. Mensah and Barkate where hits...the rest not so much.
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When we got Wilson I said my main was concern was the fact that, what wilson is good at, is not how we play and let our DEs do.

Wilson was let loose, go get the qb at Mizzou. We ask our DEs to do something way different.

And that concern seems to be playing out. Idk why we dont let our DEs loose on 3rd amd long. Seems they were also playing to contain qb scrambles.
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They are for sure being told to engage and collapse the pocket in a controlled environment. They are not even trying to make moves. They lock in and stand there. It’s baffling
 
6 corners taken total in this class and last minus Wyman. 7 corners if you count Amir. Add that with EC, Brown, Lucas, OJ, Mack, Ewald, and Jabari that’s 13-14 going into next year. No way they all stay. 4 Safeties in this class and last 5 if you count Amir along with Fitz, Poyser, Thorton, Day, and Dunnigan. That’s 9-10 going into next year. No way they all stay. No way 24 safeties, corners, and nickels are on this roster next year. Mario throwing numbers at every troubled position group until someone emerges. I think a lot of fans will be shocked at who is told to leave.
 
DamienCane86 said:
Moten, Toure, C. Smith, Wilson are gone on defense. And I'm not even encouraged to see Blount or Damari back. And on offense Rodriguez, Barkate, and Fletcher are gone. Need portal help on OL badly and new wr's should likely relegate Upshaw to the bench.
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Doesn’t fletch have one more year if he wants? Could be wrong but 5 for 5?

I mean, having another year of Mama Fletch needs to be a consideration also.
 
Da Jumbo Mutombo said:
When we got Wilson I said my main was concern was the fact that, what wilson is good at, is not how we play and let our DEs do.

Wilson was let loose, go get the qb at Mizzou. We ask our DEs to do something way different.

And that concern seems to be playing out. Idk why we dont let our DEs loose on 3rd amd long. Seems they were also playing to contain qb scrambles.
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Absolutely right. A lot of fans don't seem to understand that position names don't mean much in this defense compared to what we used to call positions.

The Bain DE position in this defense in it's base front is more like 3-4 DE or a small DT. They play inside the tackles a ton. There is also a "standup DE" position which is really more like a 3-4 OLB.

I legitimately wonder if our current defensive woes would be helped if we just played a straight up 4-3 front more often. Moten and Blount as the DTs, lightfoot and wilson at DE. Ultimately that would change the entire defensive system though so it is highly unlikely.
 
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