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UnForgiven said:
And unless I'm confused, as a semi-Arky fan with horrible memory - that 3-7 year had a LOT of very close, competitive games. They were in most of 'em. Didn't show up in the win column but you could see them closing the gap hugely. I think our fan base wants to see results on the W column, and so do I - but sometimes when you close a 1 mile gap and get 3/4 of the way there, that's a great sign too.
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My god daughter just graduated from their w/ her masters, & her 1st yr there was 2020, so I watched their games during Covid. They lost 3 of those 7 games by 3 points or less, iirc. I know they fa sho got blown out in several, but it was a better on field product in 2020 vs. 2019 in majority of those games.
 
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Rellyrell said:
Further context to this discussion, & I’m going to place these two in the same row boat due to coaching back ground.

Bret Bielema:
Inherited a 2-6 Illinois Team. Went 5-7 yr 1, 8-5 yr 2

Sam Pittman:
Inherited a 2-10 Arky Team. Went 3-7 yr 1, 9-4 yr 2

Here’s two coaches w/ the same tough minded, grind em out mentalities that inherited far worst programs than Mario. Yet, although they mightily struggled in yr 1, a +3 game improvement happened the following yr.

Again, if anyone on this board is clamoring to be patient for 5 yrs or is already making an out for us to win 7 games or less this upcoming season, u’re full of USDA Grade A bull chit. This team better not win less than 8 games on the season, and I’m referring to the regular season. Illinois went 8-4 on the regular season, along w/ Arkansas in yr 2. The difference is Illinois faced a hella motivated MSU team that came out hella motivated to win one for Coach Leach in their bowl game.

There are no excuses, & I may sound like a broken record in this thread, but it’s b/c I know fa sho if Mario wasn’t an alum, there wouldn’t be contingency excuses in place. I think we should win at least 8 games this season, but if we don’t, there’s no excuses, and I don’t remotely wanna hear them.
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You know what I don't understand about people on here the same people that say he should win 10 games also say they expect them to win seven so what gives?
 
Rellyrell said:
& let me be clear:

Mario was not my first choice to come here, however, I do think he can get the job done here. That thought process is only predicated upon his tenure at UO. I created a thread calling for patience, but that patience was only for the “10 wins or bust crowd” expectations in yr 1. I called for us to allow him to cook; but, here’s the thing about even a chef cooking a 5* meal, it doesn’t take them 2 hrs to make it.

U go to any gourmet, top tier restaurant and ur not expecting fast food results, but u’re definitely expecting that meal to come out w/in reason, EVEN if they r missing some key ingredient they need to fetch (I’m using a real life example as I was invited to a former chef at the famed French Laundry’s home for a cuisine show case).

Now, to bring this analogy home: I can justify w/in “some reason” our struggles last season (not losing to MTSU the way we did, however). What I can’t justify in yr 2, w/ an alleged better coach staff to match personnel, another yr in Feld’s S&C regimen, more highly touted players on the roster that we will be OK to win less than 8 regular season games. That chit is not acceptable or non negotiable as a fan of this program.
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i agree. im tired of the excuses.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
No, I don’t think that. I just think it’s a more complex issue than just putting a checkmark by a coach you like or don’t like. In the real world, forging ahead to be successful is complex and multifactorial, with many issues impinging not just on hiring decisions, but on all other aspects of running a successful organization.
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Most of the users on here have never negotiated anything on a business level. The assumption that we could have built a better staff is preposterous.
 
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Bender said:
Most of the users on here have never negotiated anything on a business level. The assumption that we could have built a better staff is preposterous.
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he absolutely could have hired a better OC last year with half of what he paid for gattis. he went after the shiny toy after getting rejected for not allowing staff choices. he fixed that mistake this year. stop defending what was a failure of a move from day 1. the current staff didnt cost as much as last years staff and is better. those options were available last year too. iff anything, Mario got hustled at the negotiating table
 
Silver King said:
You're right, Fetzer the owner who hired him had a great Front Office, those guys won all sorts of accolades. The first yacht was a 53 Hatteras, and the bow in the picture was a 64 Burger, which we moved up to the next year, repowered, and put a $1 million restoration on at Bob Roscioli's yard in Ft Lauderdale. The boss wanted to work out of Turnberry Isle, but I convinced him to work more on the West Coast of Florida, so 4.5 draft was about it over here. We also had a couple of antiques: an 82-foot 1942 Luders with four GM 6V71s (Black Hull, Varnished topside, and seamist green cabin tops—a gorgeous yacht), and a 40-foot English steam launch all varnished that he put in the corporate lake in Ann Arbor. Finally, he bought a historic 1900 three-masted schooner. I got to run them all, and when he started getting rid of them, the guy I hired to run the schooner and I bought her to keep her from going to Japan as a restaurant. We returned her to the Maine Windjammer Trade. After 28 years, we sold her in 2018. Under our watch she became a National Historic Landmark and made her way onto the back of the 2003 Maine State Quarter.
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hoops156 said:
lol some of us negotiate high stakes settlements for fortune 100 companies, some of us negotiate for the best universities in the world. you never know who is who behind here
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the ones who do are not the stupid ones on here tho
 
hoops156 said:
he absolutely could have hired a better OC last year with half of what he paid for gattis. he went after the shiny toy after getting rejected for not allowing staff choices. he fixed that mistake this year. stop defending what was a failure of a move from day 1. the current staff didnt cost as much as last years staff and is better. those options were available last year too. iff anything, Mario got hustled at the negotiating table
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i never defended it, i just find the arrogance that someone on here proclaims how he could do better without actually doing it completely laughable.

you can say that mario **** the bed and we all agree. say that you absolutely would have done better and i laugh at you for two days straight
 
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theibisrules said:
THIS! Some of y'all "fans" act like Manny Diaz left a Bama roster...that roster was weak af.
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Compared to who? Middle Tennessee?
Duke? Pitt? We beat both those teams with a "weak af" roster in 2021.
You don't need a Bama roster to beat all these garbage teams that blew us out last year.
 
theibisrules said:
THIS! Some of y'all "fans" act like Manny Diaz left a Bama roster...that roster was weak af.
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it wasnt strong. it wasnt as weak as we looked like last year. stop w the BS. he wasnt left a trash can roster where we couldnt be competent on the field. mannys last year even proved that.
 
DTP said:
Compared to who? Middle Tennessee?
Duke? Pitt? We beat both those teams with a "weak af" roster in 2021.
You don't need a Bama roster to beat all these garbage teams that blew us out last year.
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this.

people will make excuses bc hes a golden boy. manny had a better year 1 than mario with zero HC exp and we wnated him fired. somehow mario fans make more excuses for a 10 year vet
 
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