After we fire Golden, let's not over-correct

[jkaz1]

He beat them in his final year, for sure - the big catch by Shockey and then the ensuing rubbish with us having beaten FSU but them going to the championship game to play Oklahoma....

I'm not sure how many other times he beat them, though....

Refresh my memory; did Butch ever beat FSU?

Hire Butch Davis, and you don't have to fret about all of this.

 

[da truth]

After we fired Coker, we wanted a hard-nosed guy that would re-emphasize south Florida recruiting.


I think the gut reaction now is to hire some fire-breathing defensive coach who will have guys flying off the edge. That's how you can end up with a coach like Muschamp or Bo Pellini.


And if it means hiring the guy at Western Michigan or whatever, so be it. We can't let Golden's failure poison the well.

Bo Pelini wouldn't be a bad hire. We would be winning the coastal every year with Bo

 

[CaneInTheBrain]

You do what you can to stack the odds in your favor.

Al Golden proves that the MAC is a different animal from Miami. I don't want a MAC coach. Going 12-2 at Western Michigan proves nothing... see Larry Fedora.

All of our coaches that we have had success with in the past have either had NFL head coaching experience, or they were head coaches at NCAA schools who played top competition regularly.

Al Golden proves nothing. Plenty of great coaches came from smaller schools.

Schnelly, Jimmy Johnson, and Dennis Erickson were innovators. You're overly concerned with the résumé. ****, Wannstedt has a good CV. He's taken multiple NFL franchises to the playoffs, and won multiple bowl games at Pitt.

You want Wanny?

Larry Fedora was a great coach at the lower levels, so was James Franklin. Now they're on the hot seat.

Remember Brady Hoke? MAC all star. How about Arkansas' John L Smith, Colorado's Mike MacIntyre, or Tennessee's Derek Dooley? All got their start succeeding at MAC-style schools, all fired today.

 

[Gatorhater]

The BOT and AD are incompetent. Any thinking about who to hire will be a disaster. I never thought Butch a good game day coach, but oh Lord can the man recruit. He will come cheap and will raise excitement through the roof. can go toe to toe against Saban, Jimbo, Urban and overcome the bagmen. He might fail but is the surest bet we can get. He also had eye for coaching talent.

 

[Klamalama]

Simple...wanna save money? Wanna get best bargain? Wanna incite the fan base? Want sponsors to come back around? Wanna improve recruiting in our back yard? Wanna get donations back free-flowing? Wanna bring back credibility to this program? Simple solution: HIRE BUTCH DAVIS! Stop w/ all the other non-sense.

This the truth!

 

[Heals85]

All I know is if we go with a MAC coach or one from a lower tier school and not a proven coach they **** sure better have won a championship. Folden couldn't even win the MAC and beat University of Ohio.

 

[weownfsu]

Im not interested in a lower tier guy unless he's wrecked shop. Nobody who has 8-9 win seasons. If you're coming from a mid major you need to have upsets, bowl wins, and 10+ win seasons.

 

[caneforlifeforreal]

He beat them in his final year, for sure - the big catch by Shockey and then the ensuing rubbish with us having beaten FSU but them going to the championship game to play Oklahoma....

I'm not sure how many other times he beat them, though....

Refresh my memory; did Butch ever beat FSU?

Hire Butch Davis, and you don't have to fret about all of this.

It's obvious that the original asker of this question was not in the Orange Bowl that day in 2000. So hot I think I'm still having heat strokes. Laying in that **** soaked floor with strangers but brothers sweating and crying on each other after watching that field goal sail wide right. Sounds awful but it was pure bliss. I'd like to have that again

 

[The Franchise]

After we fired Coker, we wanted a hard-nosed guy that would re-emphasize south Florida recruiting.

After we fired Shannon, we wanted a guy with good communication skills who had experience building a program.

I think the gut reaction now is to hire some fire-breathing defensive coach who will have guys flying off the edge. That's how you can end up with a coach like Muschamp or Bo Pellini.

Just because Golden was from a mid-major doesn't mean we shouldn't look for talent at non-Power 5 schools. I remember during our last hiring cycle, people said "no more coordinators" because of Coker's and Shannon's failings. Well ****, we could've had Gus Malzahn. Dude took a 3-9 team and went to the championship game in year one.

I don't necessarily want the guy with the best résumé. The best coaches tend to be smart, obsessive guys that are always tinkering, looking for any competitive edge. Those guys are out there. We just have to do our homework.

And if it means hiring the guy at Western Michigan or whatever, so be it. We can't let Golden's failure poison the well.

I haven't seen anyone pushing for any hard *** defensive coaches like Muscrap or Pelini.

Football's an offensive game these days. Hiring a Muscrap or Pelini type is useless. Even if they field a good defense like Muscrap did, you'll still lose if you can't score.

 

[mirednmediocrity2]

Sorry, but the losers who run this school cannot be trusted to hire a competent successor to Al Golden. Just the way it is.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

OP negged for no mention of Butch Davis.

 

[dycane]

Against my better judgment, the only coordinator I would consider is Kiffin. And the only reason I would consider him is Saban. Saban has no tolerance for incompetence. And he's also very risk averse. I was shocked when he hired Kiffin. And I've been equally shocked that Kiffin stuck and flourished under the heavy hand of Saban. It can't be easy working for Nick. But it's got to be one of, if not the best, training programs a young coach can go through (presuming he can survive). I think at this point it's pretty clear Kiffin is a legitimate offensive mind. And we know he can recruit. The question is whether he's matured and learned enough under Saban to be able to properly administer a major program and coaching staff. With trepidation, I would be willing to take the risk that he has, but only if we struck out on Butch or a Pinkel-type, as Franchise suggested.

 

[omaha]

You clearly don't know Bo. Many of Nebraskas worst losses of all time top 20 belong to Bo. Unless he has the Number 1 DT on his D he can not coach a D.

Bill Parcells came from NAIA. NFL HOF.

Jimmy Johnson in 4 years could not beat OU or Nebraska. Would you hire him today?

Chip Kelly came out of Deleware or some place like that before Oregon. Not going to take him?

Urban Meyer at Bowling Green

Pete Carroll failed at 2 NFL teams. Brought back USC from 25 years of failure.

Butch Davis won what at UNC?

Brady Hoke was a Michigan man

Randy Shannon is as Miami as you can get.

Gary Paterson pre 2014 getting slammed. A real Big 12 comp in 12" and 13".

 

[ThomasM]

I want a good Xs and Os coach, or at least someone who knows how to hire good Xs and Os coordinators.

 

[poncho0091]

I disagree with this idea that the staff can't evaluate and develop players. It keeps being brought up but the evidence just doesn't back it up. You can't say the staff doesn't develop players but just put 8 rookies on NFL rosters, the majority of whom were three stars or lower.

Pretty much this.

You don't need 19 first-round picks to win the ******* coastal.

Apparently Golden does.

 

[poncho0091]

He beat them in his final year, for sure - the big catch by Shockey and then the ensuing rubbish with us having beaten FSU but them going to the championship game to play Oklahoma....

I'm not sure how many other times he beat them, though....

Refresh my memory; did Butch ever beat FSU?

Hire Butch Davis, and you don't have to fret about all of this.

I love how people conveniently forget he had a 1 loss season in which one of the teams that went to the title game had their only loss against us and should not have been there to begin with.

 

[Era66]

Refresh my memory; did Butch ever beat FSU?

Hire Butch Davis, and you don't have to fret about all of this.

Yes in 2000 that was the Shockey game.

 

[Era66]

He beat them in his final year, for sure - the big catch by Shockey and then the ensuing rubbish with us having beaten FSU but them going to the championship game to play Oklahoma....

I'm not sure how many other times he beat them, though....

Refresh my memory; did Butch ever beat FSU?

Hire Butch Davis, and you don't have to fret about all of this.

Butch beat FSU and VT for the first time in 2000 then he went to Clevland.

 

[omaha]

Maybe many are too young to remember that Butch Davis was 8-4 regular season in his 5 the season. Many on the boards wanted him gone. "Was a terrible game day coach". "Wasted Edge James Career" many said. "Did not know how to use all world athlete Kenny Kelly". Some of us said the program was heading in a good direction. We were not called slurpers but something similar and many would continue to ask to fly the banner "Fire Butch". Now he is the savior of Miami? Am I the only one who remembered 1999?

 

[weownfsu]

Maybe many are too young to remember that Butch Davis was 8-4 regular season in his 5 the season. Many on the boards wanted him gone. "Was a terrible game day coach". "Wasted Edge James Career" many said. "Did not know how to use all world athlete Kenny Kelly". Some of us said the program was heading in a good direction. We were not called slurpers but something similar and many would continue to ask to fly the banner "Fire Butch". Now he is the savior of Miami? Am I the only one who remembered 1999?

Al Golden has more losses in four years than But h had in six. Please shut up. There is no comparison.