after the hire..

[canezhonkey]

I think overall it's a wash with Golden's staff. I'm expecting similar results.

Head Coach/OC -solid. is a good one. Edge to Richt
RB. - Brown is pretty good. Ice wasn't bad either. Slight edge to Brown.
WR - Dugan and Beard are about equal. Wash. Losing Bruce will hurt
OL - Searls and Kehoe are about equal. Wash.
QB - Coley was better with QB's than Richt's son. Plus we lose recruiting. Downgrade.

DC - Diaz is average, Donofrio was terrible. Advantage Diaz.
DL - Kool is the best hire on staff.
DB/LB - Wash.

Strength - Swasey was better than this new guy

I can appreciate that you don't have your orange and green glasses on but seriously? Searls and Kehoe are about equal? I disagree. Also how can you say we will lose in recruiting in terms of replacing Coley? No matter what the titles say, it's going to be Richt Sr who pulls the QBs and I'll take Richt over Coley any day. You say that LB/DB are a wash but how exactly did you arrive at that conclusion? Paul Williams was so bad it was a ****ing embarrassment! Rumph and Banda may be young coaches but I must defer to The Grim Richter's judgement based on his track record.

As far as the WR coach goes, Beard had the opportunity to interview and keep the job and if The Grim Richter thinks that Dugan is a better option then again I will defer to his judgement until he proves otherwise. Lastly I can't argue much about Diaz based on the numbers but I think he is an intriguing hire. I think his best is most definitely ahead of him and with the talent he will have access to here it's not a huge stretch to imagine his career really blossoming here. We'll see.

I almost forgot. "Swassey better than this new guy"? You're really going to make that statement and expect people to take you seriously? What exactly tly did Swassey accomplish in the last 15 years for you to make such a statement? Take a look at UGA's players and compare them to ours.

logic isn't a quality of his. he's just crying because Miami didn't hire his guy. . . b!tches gonna *****.

 

[Bruh.Man.Cane]

I think overall it's a wash with Golden's staff. I'm expecting similar results.

Head Coach/OC -solid. is a good one. Edge to Richt
RB. - Brown is pretty good. Ice wasn't bad either. Slight edge to Brown.
WR - Dugan and Beard are about equal. Wash. Losing Bruce will hurt
OL - Searls and Kehoe are about equal. Wash.
QB - Coley was better with QB's than Richt's son. Plus we lose recruiting. Downgrade.

DC - Diaz is average, Donofrio was terrible. Advantage Diaz.
DL - Kool is the best hire on staff.
DB/LB - Wash.

Strength - Swasey was better than this new guy

How about you wait until after the season.

 

[Canedog]

 

[MovingZen]

Head coaching experience prior to arriving at the U-
Howard Schnellenberger: 4-13 (NFL only) 23%
Jimmy Johnson: 29-25-3 51%
Dennis Erickson: 50-31-1 61%
Butch Davis: none

At Miami-
Howard Schnellenberger: 41-16 72%
Jimmy Johnson: 52-9 85%
Dennis Erickson: 63-9 87.5%
Butch Davis: 51-20 72%

Mark Richt: 145-51 74% with a bowl game every year.
This guy is easily the most accomplished coach Miami has ever hired. Elite coaches don't come to Miami. Miami makes coaches elite.. if you can handle it. Soft shoulders don't make it here. This is where Richt takes the next step. I'm really looking forward to seeing what he can do with these kids. Best off season at Miami in forever. We back!

 

[561Cane]

You either don't know much about college football, angry that "your" guy wasn't hired, or just not a bright individual. Regardless, you are so wrong in your comments that you should take a break from following the Canes or you will never be happy...

I think overall it's a wash with Golden's staff. I'm expecting similar results.

Head Coach/OC -solid. is a good one. Edge to Richt
RB. - Brown is pretty good. Ice wasn't bad either. Slight edge to Brown.
WR - Dugan and Beard are about equal. Wash. Losing Bruce will hurt
OL - Searls and Kehoe are about equal. Wash.
QB - Coley was better with QB's than Richt's son. Plus we lose recruiting. Downgrade.

DC - Diaz is average, Donofrio was terrible. Advantage Diaz.
DL - Kool is the best hire on staff.
DB/LB - Wash.

Strength - Swasey was better than this new guy

 

[Novacane32000]

Love CMR and think he will be the best coach ever at Miami.

With that said, things may get worse before they get better. Hope I'm wrong and we win 9-10 out of the gate with CMR but I have reason to think we could easily have a 7 or 8 win season.

Anything can happen and here are a few that could lead to a sub-par season

1. Injuries to key players .We still do not have the depth to overcome injuries to starters.
2. BK gets hurt. I single out BK because I don't think we win more the 7 games without him
3. Overall Talent. We will soon find out if we can win with the talent available. I think we are a ways off especially at OL,RB and DT
4. Schedule. Yeah, I know ,the Coastal is the easiest Div to win in the P-5 but the reality is we either lost to or barely beat all these teams in 2015 DOOK-VT-UVA-UNC-GT-PITT. We also play FSU who has out recruited us every year for the last 5 +years and ND who returns practically their whole team.
5.Dumb Team. We are asking the dumbest team in college football (# 1 in penalties) to learn a new system. It may be an epic struggle the first half of the year.

I think the key will be staying injury free. Washington State had ZERO injuries going into the bowl game-an amazing stat that helped lead them to a 10 win season.

 

[jakeman1]

Richt was a lot more successful early on. I think he realized he needed to be more involved as a coach, instead of the CEO of the team.

Miami has a huge geographic advantage, and they play in a weaker conference. He'll win more, which will keep more kids home, which will make him win even more. Miami's been killed by the coaching and the talent they are letting get away.

 

[Jmhcane]

Another thing I like about the hire is all the lurkers with enough interest in the program to start posting.
It's good to get some new perspectives on this site.

 

[NorthEastCane]

Head coaching experience prior to arriving at the U-
Howard Schnellenberger: 4-13 (NFL only) 23%
Jimmy Johnson: 29-25-3 51%
Dennis Erickson: 50-31-1 61%
Butch Davis: none

At Miami-
Howard Schnellenberger: 41-16 72%
Jimmy Johnson: 52-9 85%
Dennis Erickson: 63-9 87.5%
Butch Davis: 51-20 72%

Mark Richt: 145-51 74% with a bowl game every year.
This guy is easily the most accomplished coach Miami has ever hired. Elite coaches don't come to Miami. Miami makes coaches elite.. if you can handle it. Soft shoulders don't make it here. This is where Richt takes the next step. I'm really looking forward to seeing what he can do with these kids. Best off season at Miami in forever. We back!

This is probably the most rational comment about Richt's hire that I've seen... and the one that gives me the most comfort. However, Richt can't do it alone. The one thing Howard, JJ, Erickson, and Butch had in common are solid staffs behind them. Other than Kool, Richt has a lot of head scratchers.

Given the past decade, I'm in wait and see mode. He may succeed anyways just by out-talenting the rest of the Coastal. But in the long term, once you get past the Coastal, you need more than talent to get over the hump. It even took JJ several attempts to win it all.

That's basically been Richt's problem at Georgia and after the current honeymoon will be Richt's issue here. Winning the ACC (or even the Coastal) is a nice consolation prize and given the current structure, necessary to move to the next step, but it isn't how we've typically measured success. How Richt deals with that will determine his legacy.

 

[bransuperpower]

I don't post here often either but here's my thoughts...I feel like if you picked up Al Goldens Temple team and dropped them in the ACC you would've gotten similar results, around 8-4 or 9-3 at best. If you take Richts Georgia team and dropped them in the ACC this year they go 9-2 easily and play for ACC champ. Hopefully he can get over the hump and make the playoffs.

You think Holden's temple team could go 8-4 in the acc? He went 6-7 with 7 draft prospects you think he does better with less talent?

 

[UMFarArcher]

Head coaching experience prior to arriving at the U-
Howard Schnellenberger: 4-13 (NFL only) 23%
Jimmy Johnson: 29-25-3 51%
Dennis Erickson: 50-31-1 61%
Butch Davis: none

At Miami-
Howard Schnellenberger: 41-16 72%
Jimmy Johnson: 52-9 85%
Dennis Erickson: 63-9 87.5%
Butch Davis: 51-20 72%

Mark Richt: 145-51 74% with a bowl game every year.
This guy is easily the most accomplished coach Miami has ever hired. Elite coaches don't come to Miami. Miami makes coaches elite.. if you can handle it. Soft shoulders don't make it here. This is where Richt takes the next step. I'm really looking forward to seeing what he can do with these kids. Best off season at Miami in forever. We back!

Wow. Butch still won like Howard (who started with crap as well) after losing 31 scholarships? Just two points behind Richt?

Holy crap.

 

[Drew]

This staff is definitely an upgrade over any staff that Al put together. Still nervous about the season, as always, but excited to see what the new staff can do with the current roster. I am a little nervous about recruiting, but if Richt can win, I don't think it will be a problem.

 

[MovingZen]

Head coaching experience prior to arriving at the U-
Howard Schnellenberger: 4-13 (NFL only) 23%
Jimmy Johnson: 29-25-3 51%
Dennis Erickson: 50-31-1 61%
Butch Davis: none

At Miami-
Howard Schnellenberger: 41-16 72%
Jimmy Johnson: 52-9 85%
Dennis Erickson: 63-9 87.5%
Butch Davis: 51-20 72%

Mark Richt: 145-51 74% with a bowl game every year.
This guy is easily the most accomplished coach Miami has ever hired. Elite coaches don't come to Miami. Miami makes coaches elite.. if you can handle it. Soft shoulders don't make it here. This is where Richt takes the next step. I'm really looking forward to seeing what he can do with these kids. Best off season at Miami in forever. We back!

This is probably the most rational comment about Richt's hire that I've seen... and the one that gives me the most comfort. However, Richt can't do it alone. The one thing Howard, JJ, Erickson, and Butch had in common are solid staffs behind them. Other than Kool, Richt has a lot of head scratchers.

Given the past decade, I'm in wait and see mode. He may succeed anyways just by out-talenting the rest of the Coastal. But in the long term, once you get past the Coastal, you need more than talent to get over the hump. It even took JJ several attempts to win it all.

That's basically been Richt's problem at Georgia and after the current honeymoon will be Richt's issue here. Winning the ACC (or even the Coastal) is a nice consolation prize and given the current structure, necessary to move to the next step, but it isn't how we've typically measured success. How Richt deals with that will determine his legacy.

Thanks, I'm not the pro a lot of people are on here but I look at it like this- MR isn't some up an comer from Temple or wherever, he's been winning in the SEC for 15 years. Based on that I'm willing to give him a little leeway to make his hires without *****ing about every move. I think he's earned that. But, this will be like one of those racing games in the arcade, you gotta pass checkpoints to get more time. I expect a corstal title next year, and ACC title within a couple years. I'm so ready for this team to put the fear of god in ****'s again. Go Canes!

Head coaching experience prior to arriving at the U-
Howard Schnellenberger: 4-13 (NFL only) 23%
Jimmy Johnson: 29-25-3 51%
Dennis Erickson: 50-31-1 61%
Butch Davis: none

At Miami-
Howard Schnellenberger: 41-16 72%
Jimmy Johnson: 52-9 85%
Dennis Erickson: 63-9 87.5%
Butch Davis: 51-20 72%

Mark Richt: 145-51 74% with a bowl game every year.
This guy is easily the most accomplished coach Miami has ever hired. Elite coaches don't come to Miami. Miami makes coaches elite.. if you can handle it. Soft shoulders don't make it here. This is where Richt takes the next step. I'm really looking forward to seeing what he can do with these kids. Best off season at Miami in forever. We back!

Wow. Butch still won like Howard (who started with crap as well) after losing 31 scholarships? Just two points behind Richt?

Holy crap.

Crazy huh? I was a Butch guy but if he's not the guy, I'm glad MR is. Our future looks really bright.

 

[FrancisSawyer]

Head coaching experience prior to arriving at the U-
Howard Schnellenberger: 4-13 (NFL only) 23%
Jimmy Johnson: 29-25-3 51%
Dennis Erickson: 50-31-1 61%
Butch Davis: none

At Miami-
Howard Schnellenberger: 41-16 72%
Jimmy Johnson: 52-9 85%
Dennis Erickson: 63-9 87.5%
Butch Davis: 51-20 72%

Mark Richt: 145-51 74% with a bowl game every year.
This guy is easily the most accomplished coach Miami has ever hired. Elite coaches don't come to Miami. Miami makes coaches elite.. if you can handle it. Soft shoulders don't make it here. This is where Richt takes the next step. I'm really looking forward to seeing what he can do with these kids. Best off season at Miami in forever. We back!

This is probably the most rational comment about Richt's hire that I've seen... and the one that gives me the most comfort. However, Richt can't do it alone. The one thing Howard, JJ, Erickson, and Butch had in common are solid staffs behind them. Other than Kool, Richt has a lot of head scratchers.

Given the past decade, I'm in wait and see mode. He may succeed anyways just by out-talenting the rest of the Coastal. But in the long term, once you get past the Coastal, you need more than talent to get over the hump. It even took JJ several attempts to win it all.

That's basically been Richt's problem at Georgia and after the current honeymoon will be Richt's issue here. Winning the ACC (or even the Coastal) is a nice consolation prize and given the current structure, necessary to move to the next step, but it isn't how we've typically measured success. How Richt deals with that will determine his legacy.

I think most of us are excited but also in wait and see mode. Trust me, I really liked the Richt hire and have a very good amount of respect for him as a HC but the days of just blindly following the company line coming out of the Hecht are over. Having said that, I'm a little surprised by how many posters are writing this staff off as being mediocre based on youth and lack of name recognition. I can certainly understand the disappointment as many probably thought coach Richt was going to bring in some All- Star staff full of high profile assistant coaches.

My point is that these coaches Richt hired weren't the only ones to want the job. Richt mentioned all the interest he had been receiving from coaches excited at the prospect of hitching their wagon to him at a place like UM. Like Chise said in another thread, these are the coaches Richt wanted! The man won 151 games over 15 years in the SEC. I'm not trying to put Richt on a pedestal but I think his track record has at least earned him the benefit of the doubt for now. I know it's difficult to comprehend given the garbage coaching we have suffered for well over a decade but Richt actually knows what he is doing. He didn't just hire this staff by picking names out of a hat.

Does anyone really think that The Grim Richter came here to go through the motions and pull a paycheck? Richt is not here to ***** around and he knows that his career will be defined by his performance here. The man was fired and that really sticks in his craw. This is the man's last coaching job at his alma mater. He is going to put everything into going out as a championship coach. To put it simply, if things don't work out at UM this time it will be in spite of a competent veteran head coach exercising his best judgement.

 

[koachKoolio]

I agree with most of you with Richt you have a proven winner (OK he didn't win a title maybe came within 1 play vs Bama a few years ago) at 10 wins a year. If he gives the Canes 10 wins that is more than they have had since 2003. I believe it is far too early to predict how this staff turns out. It is interesting everyone after the bowl game was calling for Richt to "clean house" and that is exactly what he did. Not 1 holdover from Folden's regime and I think it was desperately needed. Still people will complain that is life

The one I don't get (and I will say it again) is the bizarre story of John Lilly. Here is the longest serving Richt asst ( I believe 8 years) and he flat out turned CMR down. Remember Richt's ideal CO-OCs were Lilly & Brown. Why Lilly chose not to come here (from not liking S. Fl to preferring rednecks and pickup trucks. The NFL, etc.) is bizarre. I am trying to recall when that has happened and maybe someone can recall another similar scenario. Yes other coaches have left coaches on the move for other jobs especially a promotion. Lilly is still unemployed. It also does not appear likely that we will have a Lilly/ McClendon reunion at SC. If he wants to go to SC and Muschamp (we know what kind of HC he is) then what in the **** is going on in Lilly's mind? Again this is a Richt confidant for 8+ years. This one remains a mystery. I don't think we can say "Richt didn't want him" because it was reported he was one of the first coaches Richt reached out to. Strange man.

What does it mean? Again Have no idea. Aside from that I would liked Aranda over Diaz but we can't compete with LSU on salary.

 

[Jmhcane]

Love CMR and think he will be the best coach ever at Miami.

With that said, things may get worse before they get better. Hope I'm wrong and we win 9-10 out of the gate with CMR but I have reason to think we could easily have a 7 or 8 win season.

Anything can happen and here are a few that could lead to a sub-par season

1. Injuries to key players .We still do not have the depth to overcome injuries to starters.
2. BK gets hurt. I single out BK because I don't think we win more the 7 games without him
3. Overall Talent. We will soon find out if we can win with the talent available. I think we are a ways off especially at OL,RB and DT
4. Schedule. Yeah, I know ,the Coastal is the easiest Div to win in the P-5 but the reality is we either lost to or barely beat all these teams in 2015 DOOK-VT-UVA-UNC-GT-PITT. We also play FSU who has out recruited us every year for the last 5 +years and ND who returns practically their whole team.
5.Dumb Team. We are asking the dumbest team in college football (# 1 in penalties) to learn a new system. It may be an epic struggle the first half of the year.

I think the key will be staying injury free. Washington State had ZERO injuries going into the bowl game-an amazing stat that helped lead them to a 10 win season.

Up vote mainly for #5