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ACC's Nightmare Scenario?

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TheOriginalCane said:
I've been led to believe that when a team gets "snubbed", they lose all motivation and purpose in life, and immediately go on to drop 7 of their next 8 games...at least...
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Unless you’re 2001 Miami and we’re snubbed for the OB. But I hear ya 😂
 
We went from doormat and need to leave the conference because :insert vitriol here: and now the worst case scenario is having too many playoff teams.

What a time to be alive.

I hate this fanbase.

Lol
 
obviously not likely but if it did happen we're in good shape. For non common opponents:
Clemson- NCSU
SMU- BC
Miami- GT, SYR

It would have helped if cal beat ncsu but overall our opponents have the best record and it should continue.
 
If it comes down to strength of schedule in the ACC, then as of 10/22/24 we are in with the best % at 41.9


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hurricaneman said:
I feel like all these conferences need to amend their tiebreakers to have overall record be a 3-way tiebreaker before all the other nonsense beyond record against common opponents. This win percentage of conference opponent BS needs to be so far down the list that it doesn't matter.

A 12-0 Miami being kept out of the ACCCG only for a 11-1 SMU to get in when the ACC is the one setting the schedules seems moronic.
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Counter point... what if Miami was 11-1 with their one loss a close one to UGA/Oregon/OSU (or someone similar) and SMU was 12-0 with their best win against BYU (or someone similar)? I would rather them bring back considering where the teams are ranked in the polls as a tiebreaker.
 
NJshoreCane said:
That's the 6th tie-breaker.

Root for these winners this week:
Syracuse over Pitt
Louisville over BC
Wake Forest over Stanford
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I am assuming that by 'rankings' they mean the AP Poll, Coaches Poll and/or Playoff Rankings, but the rankings the ACC uses as that 6th tiebreaker are provided by SportSource Analytics which uses a BCS like method to rank teams (not saying this is better or worse than any of the other rankings, but it is a completely different thing).
 
TouchMoney26 said:
thought we were in the clear


so if we, Clemson and SMU win out, we don't go to the acc championship game ?
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depends on what our remaining ACC opponents do. As of this week, if all three remain unbeaten, Miami and Clemson would meet in ACCG based on ACC opponent results

Both Clemson and SMU play undefeated Pitt. That could take care of one or both of them.
Clemson also plays Va Tech AT va Tech.

So many games left that could have bearing....
 
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This is the ACC.
If you have been following the ACC and know anything about this league over the last few decades it is that we are more likely to have teams lose to teams they have no business losing to rather than three undefeated teams.


SMU and Clemson are not running the table. Get outta here with that unlikely prediction.
 
Colombie said:
This is the ACC.
If you have been following the ACC and know anything about this league over the last few decades it is that we are more likely to have teams lose to teams they have no business losing to than three undefeated teams.


SMU and Clemson are not running the table. Get outta here with that unlikely prediction.
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I just watched some podcast where they went through all of this and discussed the current odds for Miami, SMU and Clemson vs their remaining opponents. Pitt was discussed since they play both Clemson and SMU going forward and are undefeated, too - they have a 25% chance or less according to current odds to beat either of those teams...

I still think the best bet for a Clemson loss is Va Tech - make it a night game at Va Tech and see how Klubnik handles that.
 
Plymouth99 said:
ACC needs to go to a nine game conference schedule.
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I hate the idea of 9 game conference schedules as it means even less opportunity for schools to play interesting out of conference games.

We are lucky in that the only team that we really 'need' to play every year is FSU who is in conference, but if you think getting a game with UF is hard now wait until the SEC goes to 9 games and they have their yearly game with FSU scheduled. That only leaves them 2 games and no way they are scheduling it against a school like Miami for one of those 2 games.

Even schools w/o out of conference rivals are going to want to keep 1) easy opponents and 2) another guaranteed home game every year.
 
AmherstCane said:
God, grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change
the courage to change the things I can
and the wisdom to know the difference.
Living one day at a time,
enjoying one moment at a time.


But yeah… I guess that scenario would suck… or we’d be extra motivated and rested (from getting screwed out of the ACC championship game) and go on a run to win the natty.
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Luckily this program has a long and storied history of coming off of bye weeks and playing well-prepared and motivated football.
 
ajkreider said:
Every one loss team made the top 12 last year.
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You are ignoring seeding and conference championships, as well as the fact that four of the teams in the top 12 last year have now joined either the SEC or Big 10, which means there will be more head-to-head games (and more losses).

And then there's Notre Dame.

Plus the..."expectation"...that the SEC and Big 10 will get 4 teams each. Regardless of how many other "1-loss teams" might be out there.

Believe me, if the SEC and Big 10 don't get 4 teams each, they will "change" the rules and the formula.
 
Cane30 said:
First off, in my opinion, the playoff committee is a controlled vote. They weren't letting the SEC go unrepresented last season, FSU gets booted. The #1 and #2 spots are tied to the Sugar Bowl and Rose Bowl. They will do whatever to keep 2 of their racehorses (SEC and B1G) in those 2 spots. We don't want those spots anyway because if we win the ACC at #3 we are looking at 2 home games in the Rock if we keep winning. I only want the #3 playoff spot. All if we get in the ACC Championship and win.
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So I take it that you don't subscribe to rok-head's pie-in-the-sky view of the CFP Committee, that they are busy watching every football game, and evaluating every team fairly, and voting out of the pureness of their hearts?

Hmmmm....I think you may be onto something here...
 
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Da Jumbo Mutombo said:
Did you mean to say best case scenario?

We don't have to play a useless conference championship game.

We get the 5 seed, which is the easiest seed. You face the fcs school and then the big 12 champ.

And you get to host a playoff game.

Sign me up for this.
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Was talking about that yesterday. Conference champion wins and gets a bye vs no conference game and the #5 seed-------seems like the #5 seed is probably better, but you will be away vs #4.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
You are ignoring seeding and conference championships, as well as the fact that four of the teams in the top 12 last year have now joined either the SEC or Big 10, which means there will be more head-to-head games (and more losses).

And then there's Notre Dame.

Plus the..."expectation"...that the SEC and Big 10 will get 4 teams each. Regardless of how many other "1-loss teams" might be out there.

Believe me, if the SEC and Big 10 don't get 4 teams each, they will "change" the rules and the formula.
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Nah. The committee is full of actual people, who won't like making hard unpopular decisions. If there are 7 open spots, and four 1-loss teams and eight 2-loss teams vying for them, they will send the 1-loss teams through just to make their job easier.

They need and excuse to not do so. Last year they had the Travis injury. So far, not such convenient excuses this year.
 
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