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ACC continues to ***** Miami

Andrew said:
This needs to be said...

Miami committed pass interference against Ohio State in the national title game. The call was late, but it was accurate.

hey guys, Miami and FSU commit a lot of penalties, it’s not bias. Our opponents are mostly unaggressive players from schools known for academics. Duke, UNC, BC, GT, and Virginia are always more intelligent than us.
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WTF?

If an incidental facemask had been called, it would have been an assholish call, but actually correct. But pass interference?
 
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Johnson3 said:
WTF?

If an incidental facemask had been called, it would have been an assholish call, but actually correct. But pass interference?
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It is what it is.

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Ironically, Duke probably would have won the 2015 game if the last “TD” has been overturned on replay. There would have been only time for one more play (where Duke would have it from about the one foot line and probably would have scored) and no time for a kickoff return.
 
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Maybe they want us to leave but we aren't taking the hint...

... oh boy, weren't they were sold a load of snake oil when they signed us on... especially after all that ruckus.
 
skeeter said:
Nah that's jockeying for position and Gamble initiated the contest as much as he was interfered with. Brutal call.
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I'm more disappointed with our schedule this year. Frontloaded with FIVE straight home games and then on the back end we're on the road EVERY WEEK with the exception of L'ville AND a Friday night game to boot. No excuse for this type of scheduling.
 
caneworld said:
Maybe they want us to leave but we aren't taking the hint...

... oh boy, weren't they were sold a load of snake oil when they signed us on... especially after all that ruckus.
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Sooner or later, they will get wise to the scam this so-called university pulled on them and we will be out on our ***.
 
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Andrew said:
It's ok to be objective. In fact, if we were then we wouldn't consistently be disappointed in our results each year.
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Yeah, about that "objectivity"

http://www.sloansportsconference.co.../SSAC15-RP-Poster-Paper-Referee-Analytics.pdf

Your "smartest man in the room" "Devils advocate" "I'm the adult here" schtick is getting old. Peer reviewed research paper sponsored by MIT, but you are much smarter than that about the ACC officiating, right?

I see you also avoided it the last time I brought it up:

https://www.canesinsight.com/threads/duke-game-primer-acc-officiating-bias-proven.113883/

It's okay to admit your wrong...You may find you are more valued by others if you do.
 
CaneFan79 said:
Yeah, about that "objectivity"

http://www.sloansportsconference.co.../SSAC15-RP-Poster-Paper-Referee-Analytics.pdf

Your "smartest man in the room" "Devils advocate" "I'm the adult here" schtick is getting old. Peer reviewed research paper sponsored by MIT, but you are much smarter than that about the ACC officiating, right?

I see you also avoided it the last time I brought it up:

https://www.canesinsight.com/threads/duke-game-primer-acc-officiating-bias-proven.113883/

It's okay to admit your wrong...You may find you are more valued by others if you do.
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The paper shows that conferences do not apply penalties the same. It does not attempt to indicate that the same action is not considered a penalty when committed by certain teams within the conference. I think common sense will tell you that leagues officiating philosophy will favor teams that have been in the conference longer. Surely teams like UNC, Duke, and Wake have shaped ACC officiating through many more years of feedback. This isn't bias as long as penalties are applied based on action.

Every watch baseball? Baseball players learn how each umpire calls balls and strikes and makes adjustments based on that. Miami needs to understand what is and isn't called in the ACC and adjust to that.
 
Andrew said:
The paper shows that conferences do not apply penalties the same. It does not attempt to indicate that the same action is not considered a penalty when committed by certain teams within the conference. I think common sense will tell you that leagues officiating philosophy will favor teams that have been in the conference longer. Surely teams like UNC, Duke, and Wake have shaped ACC officiating through many more years of feedback. This isn't bias as long as penalties are applied based on action.

Every watch baseball? Baseball players learn how each umpire calls balls and strikes and makes adjustments based on that. Miami needs to understand what is and isn't called in the ACC and adjust to that.
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"This isn't bias as long as penalties are applied based on action." Hmm...That sounds like Lebron's "spirutually" throw away comment from the other day. Action of whom? The players of the team the bias is against? The non-calls for the team the bias is towards?

I know a lot of people won't read the report, so here are some salient points:

"One explanation for this would be ACC officials protecting traditionally strong football programs while penalizing the more recently successful more. Supporting this notion, there is evidence of ACC officiating favoritism towards teams that have been in the league longest (founded in 1953) and more frequently flagging teams that are newer to the conference: Georgia Tech (1978), Florida State (1991), University of Miami (2004), Virginia Tech (2004), and Boston College (2005)."


"Our findings support the inference that referees from the ACC in particular officiate in-conference games differently than referees in other major conference alliances. Table 1 shows an analysis of the Noll-Scully measure of parity [42], with the ACC showing the greatest parity in five of the eight sample years. Particularly given the betting line bias of the ACC in- conference, there is reason to believe that the ACC handicaps its stronger teams despite the financial incentives to do the opposite. Why does the ACC engage in this behavior and have these biases among officials? One possible explanation is the reputation of the ACC as a basketball conference with its four founding member North Carolina institutions (Duke, UNC, Wake Forest, and NC State) yielding the most political influence; internal ACC power may be threatened by non-founding schools with strong football that drive much of its revenue. The demise of the Big East, a league better known for their powerful basketball programs more so than their football programs, serves as a cautionary tale."

Yes, I have watched baseball...Since 1973. During that time, I have watched it descend from being the National Pastime ("Baseball, Apple Pie, and Chevrolet") to being a mostly regional (coastal, St Louis/Chicago) sport whose "traditions" like umpire-specific strike zones have turned off legions of fans. The Atlantic League is already testing uniform zone automated ball and strike call systems and the new generation of ballplayers, accustomed to other sports' attempt at getting the call right (as opposed to "tradition") are demanding it:

https://sports.yahoo.com/royals-mik...er-1st-career-ejection-045644588.html?src=rss

We don't go to war with bolt action rifles and piston-engined aircraft anymore. The ACC needs to have Swofford "retire," get out of Greensboro, and change with the times.

Defending them in face of actual evidence only delays the solution.
 
The ACC hasn't "continued to ***** Miami" ---- Miami has continued to ***** ITSELF !
 
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