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ACC announces teams will forfeit games they can't play because of COVID outbreaks

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Interesting that the forfeiting team will be assigned an L for conference rankings, but TBD how that "L" would be handled by the CFP selection committee, AP, or coaches (for purposes of polling). I suspect forfeiting teams won't be taking real drops in the rankings, and teams that win by forfeit won't be making real gains. Could result in some interesting circumstances where teams with "better" records but worse rankings are in conference games over higher ranked teams who took one or more losses via forfeit.
 
tcgrad1014 said:
What if your squad is full vaxxed but you have a bunch of breakthrough cases?
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I would assume that testing will determine IF a player is allowed to play based on CDC guidelines (10 days isolated after covid positive, two negatives needed to offset a positive if the person is asymptomatic). From a science and numbers POV, the later your players get the shots the less likely they are at contracting Delta AND the more Moderna shots the less likely. Per Mayo, Pfizer is 42% effective at blocking transmission while Moderna is 76%. Stats show the vaccine causes a 30x production of T cells compared to human contraction with an immune response after recovery.
 
No_Fly_Zone said:
Interesting that the forfeiting team will be assigned an L for conference rankings, but TBD how that "L" would be handled by the CFP selection committee, AP, or coaches (for purposes of polling). I suspect forfeiting teams won't be taking real drops in the rankings, and teams that win by forfeit won't be making real gains. Could result in some interesting circumstances where teams with "better" records but worse rankings are in conference games over higher ranked teams who took one or more losses via forfeit.
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CFP, Coaches, and AP are all subjective based on performances. This would impact the CFP if Miami had to forfeit a game causing them to drop out of the ACCCG with only 1 loss to Bama as Miami wouldn't have a clear path to getting into the CFP without a victory over Clemson. That is just a Miami POV so you could apply the same logic to SEC, B1G...
 
90scane said:
CFP, Coaches, and AP are all subjective based on performances. This would impact the CFP if Miami had to forfeit a game causing them to drop out of the ACCCG with only 1 loss to Bama as Miami wouldn't have a clear path to getting into the CFP without a victory over Clemson. That is just a Miami POV so you could apply the same logic to SEC, B1G...
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That's exactly what I'm getting at. Considering we just saw them put a 6-win O$U team into the CFP, I don't think a forfeited "L" will directly matter much to the people doing the polling. But it could impact which teams play in conference championship games, which could then impact the polls. Some team in some P5 conference could win two critical conference games via forfeit and conceivably end up unranked/barely ranked and in a championship game. What happens if that team squeaks out a win in its championship game?

Super hypothetical at this point, but things could get interesting.
 
No_Fly_Zone said:
That's exactly what I'm getting at. Considering we just saw them put a 6-win O$U team into the CFP, I don't think a forfeited "L" will directly matter much to the people doing the polling. But it could impact which teams play in conference championship games, which could then impact the polls. Some team in some P5 conference could win two critical conference games via forfeit and conceivably end up unranked/barely ranked and in a championship game. What happens if that team squeaks out a win in its championship game?

Super hypothetical at this point, but things could get interesting.
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In that hypothetical, that team would have to get ranked pretty high or the SEC gods would pay off the selection committee to select more SEC teams.
 
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r0fl_57omp7 said:
It's really no different than before. Need to make sure everyone is following the covid protocols.

Now if they would address the fake injury stuff...
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That depends if the injury is due to covid or not.

Didn't they attempt to address this in the last 6 months?
 
No_Fly_Zone said:
That's exactly what I'm getting at. Considering we just saw them put a 6-win O$U team into the CFP, I don't think a forfeited "L" will directly matter much to the people doing the polling. But it could impact which teams play in conference championship games, which could then impact the polls. Some team in some P5 conference could win two critical conference games via forfeit and conceivably end up unranked/barely ranked and in a championship game. What happens if that team squeaks out a win in its championship game?

Super hypothetical at this point, but things could get interesting.
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Per Wiki on how voting/selections are handled:

A team's strength of schedule is one of the most pertinent considerations for the committee in making its selections.[36] Other factors that the committee weighs are conference championships, team records, and head-to-head results,[9] plus other points such as injuries and weather.[37] Unlike the BCS system, the AP Poll, Coaches' Poll, and the Harris Poll, computer rankings are not used to make the selections.[4][20] Advanced statistics and metrics are expected to be submitted to the committee, though like other analytics, they have no formal role in the decision.[38] Committee members are not required to attend games.[35]

We have to assume a P5 with no quality wins would not have a good SoS compared to any SEC team with 10+ wins and the top ACC/B1G teams.
 
scrantoncane said:
FSU isn’t close to the 85%. Apparently it was an issue at ACC media day, other teams/schools were concerned (per Bud Elliott).

Are we at 85%? I saw someone say yes in another thread, but did Manny confirm that?
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Yes we are at 85% maybe a little more now
 
If your team is above the 85% vax rate, the likelihood of your team forfeiting a game this year is highly unlikely. Why? Last year, most game cancellations were caused by outbreaks and the ensuing contact tracing / mandatory quarantines for those deemed to be close contacts of confirmed positives. The mandatory quarantines would easily wipe out entire position groups.

The difference this year is vaxxed players DO NOT get caught up in the close contacts quarantine protocols. If they remain asymptomatic, they are not removed from team activities. They are only removed if one of their tests comes back positive. Non-vaxxed players fall under the usual close-contact protocols.

Also, teams above 85% threshold only have to test non-vaxxed players once a week vs 3 times a week for teams under the threshold.
 
I wonder how forfeits and such will work itself into the rankings and ultimately the BCS. Should be interesting to see how it all pans out.
 
Whether Miami is 100% or 50% vaccinated.. players can still get covid. Which means we could still potentially have forfeited games depending on vaccinated protocols
 
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305407cane said:
Yikes. If the is happened to keep us out of Charlotte that would suck
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Or…it may be our way IN! Other states might lag Fl in cases and spike late in the season! Coastal Div here we come!
 
da truth said:
Yes we are at 85% maybe a little more now
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On the vaccine front, Diaz said 87 percent of the team is now vaccinated, above the 85 percent threshold set by the ACC to avoid having unvaccinated players tested three times per week (instead the unvaccinated will be tested once a week).

“We’re still trying to chip away at it (i.e. get more players vaccinated),” Diaz said. “The student body coming in this weekend it’s very important for our guys to protect the program any way they can.”
 
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