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g8rh8rMD said:
sgtdan said:
I think the Naval Academy grants physical waivers for their players, thus why Navy players always seem bigger and stronger. Also why they crush us annually until last year. What a game that was. Hoping for another good one. From the entire Paratrooper community, a big GoArmy beat Navy!
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What does this mean and how does it make them different than the other service academies? TIA for explaining. First I’ve heard this mentioned.
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I would have to look into it because I've never heard that, but service academies require cadets to adhere to strict physical fitness standards, including height, weight and waist measurements, which spills over into dress and appearance standards. Basically you can't look like a fat slob in uniform. So, regardless of how much a 325 lb LT can bench, he's probably not going to look "professional" in his service uniform. OP's probably referring to a waiver that allows athletes to fall outside those standards so long as he or she meets other requirements.
 
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***-e-skr said:
Some of the toughest academics too. I still remember that idiot Litee3000 on that other board who was talking sht about the academies because he thought they only " learn how to be soldiers" and don't really have "real academics."
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Yikes.
Academics are no joke at these academies.
West Point has one of the finest engineering programs in the country, if not world and at the Naval Academy there
are several courses that everyone has to pass in order for them to graduate - I think this is where the occasional
cheating scandals are centered on.
Academics and military life are so challenging that they look forward to football practice.
LOL.
 
Lester Burnham said:
g8rh8rMD said:
sgtdan said:
I think the Naval Academy grants physical waivers for their players, thus why Navy players always seem bigger and stronger. Also why they crush us annually until last year. What a game that was. Hoping for another good one. From the entire Paratrooper community, a big GoArmy beat Navy!
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What does this mean and how does it make them different than the other service academies? TIA for explaining. First I’ve heard this mentioned.
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I would have to look into it because I've never heard that, but service academies require cadets to adhere to strict physical fitness standards, including height, weight and waist measurements, which spills over into dress and appearance standards. Basically you can't look like a fat slob in uniform. So, regardless of how much a 325 lb LT can bench, he's probably not going to look "professional" in his service uniform. OP's probably referring to a waiver that allows athletes to fall outside those standards so long as he or she meets other requirements.
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I think at Navy there are height restrictions and it is probably understandable if you
walk inside some of their ships (at least the old ones).
UM had a transfer from Navy back in the 1970s because - as I vaguely rememberd - he had shot a few inches in height and
had grown to 6-7. I think his name was David Stewart and he was an OL.
And of course you had David Robinson, who was late bloomer with regards to his height.
But they seem to waive these restrictions for special situations.
 
Lester Burnham said:
g8rh8rMD said:
sgtdan said:
I think the Naval Academy grants physical waivers for their players, thus why Navy players always seem bigger and stronger. Also why they crush us annually until last year. What a game that was. Hoping for another good one. From the entire Paratrooper community, a big GoArmy beat Navy!
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What does this mean and how does it make them different than the other service academies? TIA for explaining. First I’ve heard this mentioned.
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I would have to look into it because I've never heard that, but service academies require cadets to adhere to strict physical fitness standards, including height, weight and waist measurements, which spills over into dress and appearance standards. Basically you can't look like a fat slob in uniform. So, regardless of how much a 325 lb LT can bench, he's probably not going to look "professional" in his service uniform. OP's probably referring to a waiver that allows athletes to fall outside those standards so long as he or she meets other requirements.
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Thanks for explaining, Medley too. Makes perfect sense now that you explain it. Wonder if it’s true still. I always just thought Navy had the better coaching. Coach Ken is very well regarded in these parts.
 
g8rh8rMD said:
Lester Burnham said:
g8rh8rMD said:
sgtdan said:
I think the Naval Academy grants physical waivers for their players, thus why Navy players always seem bigger and stronger. Also why they crush us annually until last year. What a game that was. Hoping for another good one. From the entire Paratrooper community, a big GoArmy beat Navy!
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What does this mean and how does it make them different than the other service academies? TIA for explaining. First I’ve heard this mentioned.
Click to expand...

I would have to look into it because I've never heard that, but service academies require cadets to adhere to strict physical fitness standards, including height, weight and waist measurements, which spills over into dress and appearance standards. Basically you can't look like a fat slob in uniform. So, regardless of how much a 325 lb LT can bench, he's probably not going to look "professional" in his service uniform. OP's probably referring to a waiver that allows athletes to fall outside those standards so long as he or she meets other requirements.
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Thanks for explaining, Medley too. Makes perfect sense now that you explain it. Wonder if it’s true still. I always just thought Navy had the better coaching. Coach Ken is very well regarded in these parts.
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I think Navy and Army are recruiting from the same pool these days, it's just that Navy has had the better
coaching under Paul Johnson and now Coach Ken Nuiematalolo.
But now that Army has their good coach, who came from the Johnson/Nuiematalolo tree, they are as good
as Navy.
Army went backwards 17 years ago when they fired Bob Sutton and hired Todd Berry, who foolishly tried
to implement a spread offense.
That was what hurt them, and not so much academics.
What I always heard was that AFA was the academy that was relatively easier on their entrance requirements,
at least for football players.
But this may not be true.
 
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What a great game. Heartbreaking the way it ended on dumb penalties and a barely missed kick that was longer than it had to be. **** glad I sat and watched that game.

Go Army.
 
Navy's had Army's number for so long, nice to see Army get two in a row. Hopefully the rivalry is more back-and-forth going forward than it has been recently. Always fun to watch.
 
One of the last remaining traditions that hasnt been ruined in our country today. Love everything about the game .
 
Miami is home, but I graduated from USNA '01. This rivalry is something special. I hate losing to Army, but it's easier for me to carry on with my day because of what the game represents. (Unlike UM/fsu where I'm ready to punch babies if we lose).

As for "different" physical standards, it is unreasonable to ask a 300lb lineman to run a 10:30 mile and a half (the max time) for the cardio part of the PRT. While they are playing football, they normally perform the cardio portion on the bike - which is significantly easier to get a passing score. Once they are done playing football, normally their senior year after a bowl game, they are responsible to pass the cardio part of the PRT by running. They are also responsible for meeting height/weight/body fat standards. To achieve these standards, you'll see the 300lb guys get down to about 205-225. Pretty amazing.
 
305M3 said:
Miami is home, but I graduated from USNA '01. This rivalry is something special. I hate losing to Army, but it's easier for me to carry on with my day because of what the game represents. (Unlike UM/fsu where I'm ready to punch babies if we lose).

As for "different" physical standards, it is unreasonable to ask a 300lb lineman to run a 10:30 mile and a half (the max time) for the cardio part of the PRT. While they are playing football, they normally perform the cardio portion on the bike - which is significantly easier to get a passing score. Once they are done playing football, normally their senior year after a bowl game, they are responsible to pass the cardio part of the PRT by running. They are also responsible for meeting height/weight/body fat standards. To achieve these standards, you'll see the 300lb guys get down to about 205-225. Pretty amazing.
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They only have to run a 10:30 mile?
 
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HurricaneHauk said:
305M3 said:
Miami is home, but I graduated from USNA '01. This rivalry is something special. I hate losing to Army, but it's easier for me to carry on with my day because of what the game represents. (Unlike UM/fsu where I'm ready to punch babies if we lose).

As for "different" physical standards, it is unreasonable to ask a 300lb lineman to run a 10:30 mile and a half (the max time) for the cardio part of the PRT. While they are playing football, they normally perform the cardio portion on the bike - which is significantly easier to get a passing score. Once they are done playing football, normally their senior year after a bowl game, they are responsible to pass the cardio part of the PRT by running. They are also responsible for meeting height/weight/body fat standards. To achieve these standards, you'll see the 300lb guys get down to about 205-225. Pretty amazing.
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They only have to run a 10:30 mile?
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1.5 miles. Everyone has to run for the cardio portion to graduate and get better than a 10:30. At least that was the standardwhen I graduated in 2001.
 
That kick was so pure. I felt sick that he missed it. That was like a golf driver where you pull it just slightly but that's fine because it's like a low spin rocket that will gallop out forever. Left center of the fairway. But in this case it was just enough to miss.

My dad died 5 years ago. He was in the Navy during Korea and we always watched this game when I was home. He wouldn't have appreciated the outcome but all afternoon I was remembering how much he loved games played in the snow.
 
10:30 Mike and half? I wonder what the Army equivalent is. For my age group(31) I have to run 2 miles in under 16:00... I normally run 14:30-45 But I drink a lot of whiskey and beer and beat off 3 times a day when I'm single
 
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