A Pure, Solid Business Decision

[Fightinibis]

I note the many and several postulations as different ones throw up a name as a potential coach here at UM - and God knows - we need a coach.

I'd venture to say that most who throw up some of these names are NOT business owners, but rather employees of others - and nothing wrong with that - it's just that business owners make investments in personnel, minimize risks, and attempt to get a good return on their investment.

Salary is NOT the investment. Lots of additional hidden costs, variable costs, fixed costs, additional asset allocations, etc. You hire a CPA, you don't just hand him a calculator, pad, and pencil. In addition to his salary, there will be lots of additional costs up front to put him in his chair.

Risk avoidance is a major consideration when making an investment - in any business. Especially when hiring.

You want to get the safest, most experienced person available, with the greatest potential to earn not only his salary, but to earn additional revenue for your business. For every dollar you invest in this person, you have to generate much more in revenues, sufficient in net revenues to pay for this investment.

You don't commit a major investment in a relatively unproven employee. A top car salesman does not necessarily equate his abilities to head a national marketing firm. Track record is important - as every dollar this man is paid - is basically coming out of your pocket as business owner - and you cannot afford too many long shots.

Long shots rarely pay off.

UM has made poor coaching decisions - as the past three hires - they were NOT made from solid principles of business. In fact, the past three hires were the antithesis of good business principles.

This next coach should be hired from a solid business viewpoint. You'll never attain perfection, but it better be solid.

Sufficient bulk of work indicative of his long-term success.

Experience in your particular market.

Proven ability to expand and build your particular market.

Low-risk that he will bolt after initial success - denying you a good return on investment.

Hire should provide the basis for continuity. Will he leave you in great shape five or six years down the road?

Is he a real asset builder? Will he stock your inventories sufficient to maintain maximum results?


Gentlemen, while it's fun to throw out names, truth be told, most are long shots. Others are unfamiliar in THIS market. Some are great car salesmen, but they're not balanced, and their downsides are considerable.

Initial cost is a factor.

Who is the safest, asset building, inventory accumulating, balanced coach with a body of experience, proven in OUR market?

All great in theory, all absent in reality when it comes to head coaching decisions made at UM. Here's to them getting it right sometime in the next decade.

UM

 

[clg003]

I note the many and several postulations as different ones throw up a name as a potential coach here at UM - and God knows - we need a coach.

I'd venture to say that most who throw up some of these names are NOT business owners, but rather employees of others - and nothing wrong with that - it's just that business owners make investments in personnel, minimize risks, and attempt to get a good return on their investment.

Salary is NOT the investment. Lots of additional hidden costs, variable costs, fixed costs, additional asset allocations, etc. You hire a CPA, you don't just hand him a calculator, pad, and pencil. In addition to his salary, there will be lots of additional costs up front to put him in his chair.

Risk avoidance is a major consideration when making an investment - in any business. Especially when hiring.

You want to get the safest, most experienced person available, with the greatest potential to earn not only his salary, but to earn additional revenue for your business. For every dollar you invest in this person, you have to generate much more in revenues, sufficient in net revenues to pay for this investment.

You don't commit a major investment in a relatively unproven employee. A top car salesman does not necessarily equate his abilities to head a national marketing firm. Track record is important - as every dollar this man is paid - is basically coming out of your pocket as business owner - and you cannot afford too many long shots.

Long shots rarely pay off.

UM has made poor coaching decisions - as the past three hires - they were NOT made from solid principles of business. In fact, the past three hires were the antithesis of good business principles.

This next coach should be hired from a solid business viewpoint. You'll never attain perfection, but it better be solid.

Sufficient bulk of work indicative of his long-term success.

Experience in your particular market.

Proven ability to expand and build your particular market.

Low-risk that he will bolt after initial success - denying you a good return on investment.

Hire should provide the basis for continuity. Will he leave you in great shape five or six years down the road?

Is he a real asset builder? Will he stock your inventories sufficient to maintain maximum results?


Gentlemen, while it's fun to throw out names, truth be told, most are long shots. Others are unfamiliar in THIS market. Some are great car salesmen, but they're not balanced, and their downsides are considerable.

Initial cost is a factor.

Who is the safest, asset building, inventory accumulating, balanced coach with a body of experience, proven in OUR market?

Lets me ask you an honest question...

What type of business owner are you if you ignore your cash cow?

When you can raise a billion dollars that's your business.

So the problem I see with your thinking is (as a football fanatic) its completely biased towards this administration being in the football business, while they are clearly not. They are in the business of academics and as of late football has proven to be nothing more than an image risk. The next coach will need to pass the risk avoidance test with flying colors that's why everyone's favorite coach will not get an interview.

 

[UMFarArcher]

I note the many and several postulations as different ones throw up a name as a potential coach here at UM - and God knows - we need a coach.

I'd venture to say that most who throw up some of these names are NOT business owners, but rather employees of others - and nothing wrong with that - it's just that business owners make investments in personnel, minimize risks, and attempt to get a good return on their investment.

Salary is NOT the investment. Lots of additional hidden costs, variable costs, fixed costs, additional asset allocations, etc. You hire a CPA, you don't just hand him a calculator, pad, and pencil. In addition to his salary, there will be lots of additional costs up front to put him in his chair.

Risk avoidance is a major consideration when making an investment - in any business. Especially when hiring.

You want to get the safest, most experienced person available, with the greatest potential to earn not only his salary, but to earn additional revenue for your business. For every dollar you invest in this person, you have to generate much more in revenues, sufficient in net revenues to pay for this investment.

You don't commit a major investment in a relatively unproven employee. A top car salesman does not necessarily equate his abilities to head a national marketing firm. Track record is important - as every dollar this man is paid - is basically coming out of your pocket as business owner - and you cannot afford too many long shots.

Long shots rarely pay off.

UM has made poor coaching decisions - as the past three hires - they were NOT made from solid principles of business. In fact, the past three hires were the antithesis of good business principles.

This next coach should be hired from a solid business viewpoint. You'll never attain perfection, but it better be solid.

Sufficient bulk of work indicative of his long-term success.

Experience in your particular market.

Proven ability to expand and build your particular market.

Low-risk that he will bolt after initial success - denying you a good return on investment.

Hire should provide the basis for continuity. Will he leave you in great shape five or six years down the road?

Is he a real asset builder? Will he stock your inventories sufficient to maintain maximum results?


Gentlemen, while it's fun to throw out names, truth be told, most are long shots. Others are unfamiliar in THIS market. Some are great car salesmen, but they're not balanced, and their downsides are considerable.

Initial cost is a factor.

Who is the safest, asset building, inventory accumulating, balanced coach with a body of experience, proven in OUR market?

Lets me ask you an honest question...

What type of business owner are you if you ignore your cash cow?

When you can raise a billion dollars that's your business.

So the problem I see with your thinking is (as a football fanatic) its completely biased towards this administration being in the football business, while they are clearly not. They are in the business of academics and as of late football has proven to be nothing more than an image risk. The next coach will need to pass the risk avoidance test with flying colors that's why everyone's favorite coach will not get an interview.

See, that's why you're such a ****ing dumbass.

There's a literary principle called an analogy. Since never can two absolutely identical situations be discovered, one may use a similar example for illustration purposes.

Actually, the University IS in the football business. Just like the big boys - they actually charge money for attending the game, through these things called "tickets." It's the site location revenue stream source. The other is being part of the ACC, where they garner additional revenue by providing our football team (with other sports teams) shared by members of the ACC.

Then like any other business - they have expenses. Revenues less expenses equals net income.

Even the academic portion of the University is a business. That's why they charge tuition. And engage in scores of other revenue generating activities.

The hard truth: If Schnellenberger NEVER came to UM, there would not be a UM football program. No one outside the 305, the Caribbean, and some South American states would know anything about UM.

Most students want to stay close to home - and UM has nothing that can't be found at other Universities. Nothing.

When UM won its first NC, there was suddenly a national awareness of that little school in Miami. Enrollments really increased, and the school enjoyed additional revenue across the board.

As National Championships were added - now UM and the U symbol are nationally recognized. You can't BUY marketing like the program generated. I used to see UM merchandise all across the nation. Now, nowhere other than specialty stores - and very little of it.

UM doe NOT any longer generate interest in the school - across the nation. It's no longer THE school with the badass NATIONAL football program that provides a draw from across the nation.

And you're a dumbass to not see how important the program is to ACADEMICS. If you want to grow, you must market - show you're a mover, a shaker, you're exciting, you're bright because you're the David beating all the Goliaths.

****, you dumb.

 

[Klamalama]

Here's another solid business decision. Attack Miami's main funding, from the ACC:

 

[roam305]

Coker won an NC. Good hire didn't end well but you can't consider that as a bad move.

Coker just was there. The team won an NC he just clapped and didnt fvck it up.

Precisely... just like in The U Part 2, Clinton Portis said "What Larry Coker did was... nuthin"

He was merely a babysitter for very very large children.

And that is precisely what that team needed, a babysitter that would not get in their way.

You bring in a name coach from the outside and they want to start messing with stuff put their mark on the program and you have recipe for a let down.

The fact that Coker went to back to back MNC's winning one tells you it was the best hire.
You thinking another coach would have done better is pure speculation.

 

[mirednmediocrity2]

Here's another solid business decision. Attack Miami's main funding, from the ACC:

THIS!

 

[BigDikCane]

Butch built a **** dynasty...

 

[clg003]

I note the many and several postulations as different ones throw up a name as a potential coach here at UM - and God knows - we need a coach.

I'd venture to say that most who throw up some of these names are NOT business owners, but rather employees of others - and nothing wrong with that - it's just that business owners make investments in personnel, minimize risks, and attempt to get a good return on their investment.

Salary is NOT the investment. Lots of additional hidden costs, variable costs, fixed costs, additional asset allocations, etc. You hire a CPA, you don't just hand him a calculator, pad, and pencil. In addition to his salary, there will be lots of additional costs up front to put him in his chair.

Risk avoidance is a major consideration when making an investment - in any business. Especially when hiring.

You want to get the safest, most experienced person available, with the greatest potential to earn not only his salary, but to earn additional revenue for your business. For every dollar you invest in this person, you have to generate much more in revenues, sufficient in net revenues to pay for this investment.

You don't commit a major investment in a relatively unproven employee. A top car salesman does not necessarily equate his abilities to head a national marketing firm. Track record is important - as every dollar this man is paid - is basically coming out of your pocket as business owner - and you cannot afford too many long shots.

Long shots rarely pay off.

UM has made poor coaching decisions - as the past three hires - they were NOT made from solid principles of business. In fact, the past three hires were the antithesis of good business principles.

This next coach should be hired from a solid business viewpoint. You'll never attain perfection, but it better be solid.

Sufficient bulk of work indicative of his long-term success.

Experience in your particular market.

Proven ability to expand and build your particular market.

Low-risk that he will bolt after initial success - denying you a good return on investment.

Hire should provide the basis for continuity. Will he leave you in great shape five or six years down the road?

Is he a real asset builder? Will he stock your inventories sufficient to maintain maximum results?


Gentlemen, while it's fun to throw out names, truth be told, most are long shots. Others are unfamiliar in THIS market. Some are great car salesmen, but they're not balanced, and their downsides are considerable.

Initial cost is a factor.

Who is the safest, asset building, inventory accumulating, balanced coach with a body of experience, proven in OUR market?

Lets me ask you an honest question...

What type of business owner are you if you ignore your cash cow?

When you can raise a billion dollars that's your business.

So the problem I see with your thinking is (as a football fanatic) its completely biased towards this administration being in the football business, while they are clearly not. They are in the business of academics and as of late football has proven to be nothing more than an image risk. The next coach will need to pass the risk avoidance test with flying colors that's why everyone's favorite coach will not get an interview.

See, that's why you're such a ****ing dumbass.

There's a literary principle called an analogy. Since never can two absolutely identical situations be discovered, one may use a similar example for illustration purposes.

Actually, the University IS in the football business. Just like the big boys - they actually charge money for attending the game, through these things called "tickets." It's the site location revenue stream source. The other is being part of the ACC, where they garner additional revenue by providing our football team (with other sports teams) shared by members of the ACC.

Then like any other business - they have expenses. Revenues less expenses equals net income.

Even the academic portion of the University is a business. That's why they charge tuition. And engage in scores of other revenue generating activities.

The hard truth: If Schnellenberger NEVER came to UM, there would not be a UM football program. No one outside the 305, the Caribbean, and some South American states would know anything about UM.

Most students want to stay close to home - and UM has nothing that can't be found at other Universities. Nothing.

When UM won its first NC, there was suddenly a national awareness of that little school in Miami. Enrollments really increased, and the school enjoyed additional revenue across the board.

As National Championships were added - now UM and the U symbol are nationally recognized. You can't BUY marketing like the program generated. I used to see UM merchandise all across the nation. Now, nowhere other than specialty stores - and very little of it.

UM doe NOT any longer generate interest in the school - across the nation. It's no longer THE school with the badass NATIONAL football program that provides a draw from across the nation.

And you're a dumbass to not see how important the program is to ACADEMICS. If you want to grow, you must market - show you're a mover, a shaker, you're exciting, you're bright because you're the David beating all the Goliaths.

****, you dumb.

Dumb... really?

Lets me just say your a total DBag. Seriously dude another baseless attack and I can tell you this. If your a business owner its a lawn care business or maybe a vinegar salesman at best and here you are trying to tell people how great your are. What a total fraud. No one successful acts like that and attacks someone for having a different opinion.

How much did Miami's football program make last year? "Umm, umm, umm, it doesnt matter their bad ***. Umm umm." FN idiot. Brilliant business mind buddy.

There is not one thing that I said that is dumb, but you clearly say everything anyone needs to know about you with your baseless attacks.

A real tough guy... an internet super hero or just a complete and total douche bag. I can tell you this if you ever said that to my face you would be in the business of designer straws because your jaw would no longer function.

I am sorry you don't understand how large businesses work. You protect your number one asset. You protect your money maker.

If you cant see how more people hate Miami across the country because of its cheating thuggish image then your not only a punk ask ****** your an idiot. Seriously a total idiot. But that's not a surprise most total douche bags are FN idiots. Your no different. No other school in the nation puts forth that image as much as Miami has. Not one. This administration has been trying desperately to move away from that. Do they want to win? Sure they would like to win but are they going to risk tarnishing that image even more to win. Nope. That's why they allow zero academic exceptions and why they hire people like Randy and tell him to make discipline more important than winning and why they hire Golden boy the CEO. Thats why that give Al an extension when it becomes public they lied to him. That's why they don't throw the program over to the boosters and let them run it like they do in Florida. Wait why am I trying to have a rational conversation with a total douche bag punk *** ***** again?

 

[UMFarArcher]

I note the many and several postulations as different ones throw up a name as a potential coach here at UM - and God knows - we need a coach.

I'd venture to say that most who throw up some of these names are NOT business owners, but rather employees of others - and nothing wrong with that - it's just that business owners make investments in personnel, minimize risks, and attempt to get a good return on their investment.

Salary is NOT the investment. Lots of additional hidden costs, variable costs, fixed costs, additional asset allocations, etc. You hire a CPA, you don't just hand him a calculator, pad, and pencil. In addition to his salary, there will be lots of additional costs up front to put him in his chair.

Risk avoidance is a major consideration when making an investment - in any business. Especially when hiring.

You want to get the safest, most experienced person available, with the greatest potential to earn not only his salary, but to earn additional revenue for your business. For every dollar you invest in this person, you have to generate much more in revenues, sufficient in net revenues to pay for this investment.

You don't commit a major investment in a relatively unproven employee. A top car salesman does not necessarily equate his abilities to head a national marketing firm. Track record is important - as every dollar this man is paid - is basically coming out of your pocket as business owner - and you cannot afford too many long shots.

Long shots rarely pay off.

UM has made poor coaching decisions - as the past three hires - they were NOT made from solid principles of business. In fact, the past three hires were the antithesis of good business principles.

This next coach should be hired from a solid business viewpoint. You'll never attain perfection, but it better be solid.

Sufficient bulk of work indicative of his long-term success.

Experience in your particular market.

Proven ability to expand and build your particular market.

Low-risk that he will bolt after initial success - denying you a good return on investment.

Hire should provide the basis for continuity. Will he leave you in great shape five or six years down the road?

Is he a real asset builder? Will he stock your inventories sufficient to maintain maximum results?


Gentlemen, while it's fun to throw out names, truth be told, most are long shots. Others are unfamiliar in THIS market. Some are great car salesmen, but they're not balanced, and their downsides are considerable.

Initial cost is a factor.

Who is the safest, asset building, inventory accumulating, balanced coach with a body of experience, proven in OUR market?

Lets me ask you an honest question...

What type of business owner are you if you ignore your cash cow?

When you can raise a billion dollars that's your business.

So the problem I see with your thinking is (as a football fanatic) its completely biased towards this administration being in the football business, while they are clearly not. They are in the business of academics and as of late football has proven to be nothing more than an image risk. The next coach will need to pass the risk avoidance test with flying colors that's why everyone's favorite coach will not get an interview.

See, that's why you're such a ****ing dumbass.

There's a literary principle called an analogy. Since never can two absolutely identical situations be discovered, one may use a similar example for illustration purposes.

Actually, the University IS in the football business. Just like the big boys - they actually charge money for attending the game, through these things called "tickets." It's the site location revenue stream source. The other is being part of the ACC, where they garner additional revenue by providing our football team (with other sports teams) shared by members of the ACC.

Then like any other business - they have expenses. Revenues less expenses equals net income.

Even the academic portion of the University is a business. That's why they charge tuition. And engage in scores of other revenue generating activities.

The hard truth: If Schnellenberger NEVER came to UM, there would not be a UM football program. No one outside the 305, the Caribbean, and some South American states would know anything about UM.

Most students want to stay close to home - and UM has nothing that can't be found at other Universities. Nothing.

When UM won its first NC, there was suddenly a national awareness of that little school in Miami. Enrollments really increased, and the school enjoyed additional revenue across the board.

As National Championships were added - now UM and the U symbol are nationally recognized. You can't BUY marketing like the program generated. I used to see UM merchandise all across the nation. Now, nowhere other than specialty stores - and very little of it.

UM doe NOT any longer generate interest in the school - across the nation. It's no longer THE school with the badass NATIONAL football program that provides a draw from across the nation.

And you're a dumbass to not see how important the program is to ACADEMICS. If you want to grow, you must market - show you're a mover, a shaker, you're exciting, you're bright because you're the David beating all the Goliaths.

****, you dumb.

Dumb... really?

Lets me just say your a total DBag. Seriously dude another baseless attack and I can tell you this. If your a business owner its a lawn care business or maybe a vinegar salesman at best and here you are trying to tell people how great your are. What a total fraud. No one successful acts like that and attacks someone for having a different opinion.

How much did Miami's football program make last year? "Umm, umm, umm, it doesnt matter their bad ***. Umm umm." FN idiot. Brilliant business mind buddy.

There is not one thing that I said that is dumb, but you clearly say everything anyone needs to know about you with your baseless attacks.

A real tough guy... an internet super hero or just a complete and total douche bag. I can tell you this if you ever said that to my face you would be in the business of designer straws because your jaw would no longer function.

I am sorry you don't understand how large businesses work. You protect your number one asset. You protect your money maker.

If you cant see how more people hate Miami across the country because of its cheating thuggish image then your not only a punk ask ****** your an idiot. Seriously a total idiot. But that's not a surprise most total douche bags are FN idiots. Your no different. No other school in the nation puts forth that image as much as Miami has. Not one. This administration has been trying desperately to move away from that. Do they want to win? Sure they would like to win but are they going to risk tarnishing that image even more to win. Nope. That's why they allow zero academic exceptions and why they hire people like Randy and tell him to make discipline more important than winning and why they hire Golden boy the CEO. Thats why that give Al an extension when it becomes public they lied to him. That's why they don't throw the program over to the boosters and let them run it like they do in Florida. Wait why am I trying to have a rational conversation with a total douche bag punk *** ***** again?

Sonny boy, you know nothing about me, and as for your ***-whipping skills, you're too easily manipulated. Me and mine have a documented 150:1 kill ratio while each time being heavily outnumbered. The Marine Corps has adapted some of my ideas and significantly increased their kill ratios. So forgive me, as your little grade-school threat really doesn't impress me.

You don't understand business - so you want to fight? That's how I know you're immature, relatively uneducated in statistics, marketing, finance, accounting, behavioral psychology, and can't remember a decade or two back - as you were probably still dribbling down your mommas legs.

No, everyone loved to hate the old Oakland Raiders. Everyone loved to hate the Miami Hurricanes. Girls just love bad boys, and they can't help it.

I can see you're filled with the indoctrination of the Administration, wanting to win. Everybody wants to win, but UM doesn't want to do what is necessary to win.

Here's the secret. Everything worth having - has a price. Some things you gotta pay in full up front. Some things you can pay as you go. Other things must be paid at the end. But the full price will be paid in full.

Wanting isn't accomplishing. Wishing isn't realizing. Winning has a high cost - always has, always will. You don't put a nun in charge of a bordello.

We need an aggressive, canny, knowing, intuitive, experienced program builder. One who's been there before, one who's done that.

And your Golden - he's not a CEO. He's a nun.

 

[Genghis Cane]

Great thread, I love the business/economic analogy because it makes the most sense.

 

[Billy D Williams]

Butch or Greg Schiano. First one to get to the U and signs gets the job. Both meet all the risk vs rewards the Business School professor mentioned. Go no farther.

 

[Chuckles]

Seems to me a poster who is debating relative merits should avoid confusing your and you're. Using the former when meaning the latter tends to lower gravitas. ;-)