A name not mentioned Ruffin Mcneill ECU Head Coach

[Skitz305]

For all of the clamor over Butch Davis what did he do so much different and better than AG? Both recruited well with Butch having the edge. Butch had much better talent to start his tenure at the U. Butch was 31-15 through his first 4 years, and AG is 24-17 with 8 games to play. This is not to promote AG but Butch was not much better coaching the talent when all can agree he had more to work with. So please stop with the Butch Davis Campaign! And stop the high profile candidates that are nothing more than a pipe dream for this university.

Look at the landscape of realistic candidates based on what the U is willing to pay, and you have to strongly consider IF those few candidates want to come to Miami. We love the school but not everyone share our same affection. Open your eyes people......and get out of the past!

In all fairness to Butch he was hit with heavy sanctions, so it was harder for him to build up that great team he put together, yet he still did. At least under him you saw players develop. A few other names that are a pipe dream but might be pretty good head coaches, Hue Jackson, Dan Quinn, Pat Shurmer

 

[gcane44]

For all of the clamor over Butch Davis what did he do so much different and better than AG? Both recruited well with Butch having the edge. Butch had much better talent to start his tenure at the U. Butch was 31-15 through his first 4 years, and AG is 24-17 with 8 games to play. This is not to promote AG but Butch was not much better coaching the talent when all can agree he had more to work with. So please stop with the Butch Davis Campaign! And stop the high profile candidates that are nothing more than a pipe dream for this university.

Look at the landscape of realistic candidates based on what the U is willing to pay, and you have to strongly consider IF those few candidates want to come to Miami. We love the school but not everyone share our same affection. Open your eyes people......and get out of the past!

Butch had to deal with the loss of 31 scholarships over his first 3 years as head coach. What Golden has had to deal with in comparison is peanuts. Butch also showed a willingness to adapt and an ability to grow as a HC (this was his first stint as a head man). Butch fired an underwhelming DC. At this point, Golden essentially is an underwhelming DC. How many of Butch's assistants rose to prominent NFL and college coaching positions?

So Butch is a better recruiter. But not marginally better. Leaps and bounds better at evaluating, acquiring, and DEVELOPING talent than Golden, and arguably has a better track record than any one else in college football:

see http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...cruiting-mojo-and-other-notes-from-the-1st-rd

Perhaps the most amazing thing that I heard Thursday night came from NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock, who relayed something that Butch Davis told him. On the heels of Jonathan Cooper going No. 9 overall, Mayock pointed out that the Tar Heel guard was the 33rd first-rounder that Davis had recruited during his 10 years as a college head coach (at Miami and UNC). That number would swell to 34 when DT Sly Williams was picked later in the first round.

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For comparison sake, in Nick Saban's last dozen years as a college head coach (at Alabama and at LSU), 22 of his recruits have gone on to become first-round picks.

 

[HurricaneU]

For all of the clamor over Butch Davis what did he do so much different and better than AG? Both recruited well with Butch having the edge. Butch had much better talent to start his tenure at the U. Butch was 31-15 through his first 4 years, and AG is 24-17 with 8 games to play. This is not to promote AG but Butch was not much better coaching the talent when all can agree he had more to work with. So please stop with the Butch Davis Campaign! And stop the high profile candidates that are nothing more than a pipe dream for this university.

Look at the landscape of realistic candidates based on what the U is willing to pay, and you have to strongly consider IF those few candidates want to come to Miami. We love the school but not everyone share our same affection. Open your eyes people......and get out of the past!

Think Coker should at least send a fruit basket to Butch?

Miami Draft Picks who either played under or were recruited by Butch Davis:

2004 1 5 5 Sean Taylor Redskins DB
1 6 6 Kellen Winslow Jr Browns TE
1 12 12 Jonathan Vilma Jets LB
1 17 17 D.J. Williams Broncos LB
1 19 19 Vernon Carey Dolphins G
1 21 21 Vince Wilfork Patriots DT
7 12 213 Darrell McClover Jets LB
7 14 215 Alfonso Marshall Bears DB
7 53 254 Carlos Joseph Chargers T

2003 1 3 3 Andre Johnson Texans WR
1 15 15 Jerome McDougle Eagles DE
1 23 23 Willis McGahee Bills RB
1 25 25 William Joseph Giants DT
3 25 89 Andrew Williams 49ers DE
4 34 131 Jamaal Green Eagles DE
5 15 150 Matthew Walters Jets DE
7 27 241 Ken Dorsey 49ers QB

2002 1 7 7 Bryant McKinnie Vikings T
1 14 14 Jeremy Shockey Giants TE
1 17 17 Phillip Buchanon Raiders DB
1 24 24 Ed Reed Ravens DB
1 27 27 Mike Rumph 49ers DB
2 19 51 Clinton Portis Broncos RB
4 18 116 Martin Bibla Falcons G
4 37 135 Najeh Davenport Packers RB
6 11 183 James Lewis Colts DB
7 15 226 Daryl Jones Giants WR
7 16 227 Joaquin Gonzalez Browns T

2001 1 11 11 Dan Morgan Panthers LB
1 12 12 Damione Lewis Rams DT
1 16 16 Santana Moss Jets WR
1 30 30 Reggie Wayne Colts WR
3 3 65 James Jackson Browns RB
6 37 200 Leonard Myers Patriots DB
7 45 245 Andre King Browns WR

2000 1 14 14 Bubba Franks Packers TE
2 25 56 Michael Boireau Vikings DE
3 28 90 Nate Webster Buccaneers LB
5 19 148 Richard Mercier Ravens G
7 21 227 Mondriel Fulcher Raiders RB

1999 1 4 4 Edgerrin James Colts RB
5 2 135 Nick Williams Bengals RB
7 39 245 Scott Covington Bengals QB

1998 1 10 10 Duane Starks Ravens DB
3 13 74 Jammi German Falcons WR

1997 1 15 15 Yatil Green Dolphins WR
1 17 17 Kenard Lang Redskins DE
1 18 18 Kenny Holmes Oilers DE
4 15 111 Tremain Mack Bengals DB
5 3 133 Marcus Wimberly Falcons DB
5 18 148 Twan Russell Redskins LB
6 29 192 Tony Gaiter Patriots WR
7 10 211 Carlos Jones Seahawks DB

1996 1 26 26 Ray Lewis Ravens LB
6 8 175 Derrick Harris Rams RB

North Carolina Draft Picks who either played under or were recruited by Butch Davis:

2013 1 7 7 Jonathan Cooper Cardinals G
1 28 28 Sylvester Williams Broncos DT
2 5 37 Giovani Bernard Bengals RB
3 27 89 Brennan Williams Texans T
7 8 214 Travis Bond Vikings G

2012 1 16 16 Quinton Coples Jets DE
2 20 52 Zach Brown Titans LB

2011 1 14 14 Robert Quinn Rams DE
2 8 40 Bruce Carter Cowboys LB
2 20 52 Marvin Austin Giants DT
2 27 59 Greg Little Browns WR
4 3 100 Da'Norris Searcy Bills DB
5 2 133 Johnny White Bills RB
5 21 152 T.J. Yates Texans QB
6 6 171 Quan Sturdivant Cardinals LB
7 15 218 Ryan Taylor Packers TE

2010 4 29 127 E.J. Wilson Seahawks DE
5 15 146 Cam Thomas Chargers DT

2009 1 29 29 Hakeem Nicks Giants WR
2 32 64 Richard Quinn Broncos TE
3 19 83 Brandon Tate Patriots WR
5 20 156 Garrett Reynolds Falcons T
5 24 160 Brooks Foster Rams WR

2008 1 29 29 Kentwan Ballmer 49ers DT
7 14 221 Hilee Taylor Panthers LB

 

[the storm]

East Carolina is sort of like USF image wise. They will never have any name recognition to speak of on a national level (just MHO). I would definitely think UM would go after him if & when that time comes.

 

[FullyERicht]

He's been mentioned a dozen times, and each time it was a terrible idea.

You don't hire a coach bc he beat a few ****** ACC teams. You don't hire a coach who was a coordinator for two total seasons with mediocre to poor results. Miami is no longer in the position to take a gamble on guys with light resumes and questionable pedigree.

 

[Dingaan1828]

He's been mentioned a dozen times, and each time it was a terrible idea.

You don't hire a coach bc he beat a few ****** ACC teams. You don't hire a coach who was a coordinator for two total seasons with mediocre to poor results. Miami is no longer in the position to take a gamble on guys with light resumes and questionable pedigree.

And, maybe you don't hire a coach who has given up over 500 yards rushing to Navy - twice, including a losing 76-35 *** kicking of historic proportions. Ruffin McNeill needs to stay at ECU a couple of more years before I would consider him. ---I know, we need someone sooner than that.

 

[bxcanesbomber]

been saying ecu coaching staff since Saturday night

 

[bxcanesbomber]

He's been mentioned a dozen times, and each time it was a terrible idea.

You don't hire a coach bc he beat a few ****ty ACC teams. You don't hire a coach who was a coordinator for two total seasons with mediocre to poor results. Miami is no longer in the position to take a gamble on guys with light resumes and questionable pedigree.

And, maybe you don't hire a coach who has given up over 500 yards rushing to Navy - twice, including a losing 76-35 *** kicking of historic proportions. Ruffin McNeill needs to stay at ECU a couple of more years before I would consider him. ---I know, we need someone sooner than that.

Those losses started when he began the football program all is coming full circle this year but they've been descent the previous two seasons

 

[Dingaan1828]

been saying ecu coaching staff since Saturday night

What happens when they play a crappy game later this year? And, they will.

I swear every time a team has a good series of downs, someone will jump on here and make that staff the flavor of the day.

 

[88]

The home winning streak, first round draft pick records, NFL td streak, utter dominance of FSU ect. were all brought to us by Butch. He built what was the best team in the nation for three years straight and maybe more if he stayed.

All those credentials and dudes are bringing up records in first four games.

He turned a sanctioned program into the best team ever. Those that don't want Butch and continue to throw names out like Chad Morris and the East Carolina ******* offensive coordinator must be born in the mid 90s.

 

[bxcanesbomber]

been saying ecu coaching staff since Saturday night

What happens when they play a crappy game later this year? And, they will.

I swear every time a team has a good series of downs, someone will jump on here and make that staff the flavor of the day.

They beat bigger schools before and they caught my attention when they were whooping on fau last year and I was saying to myself they're playing a better game then we did vs fau so get off my jock

 

[legacy05]

For the record, I love Ruffin. I think he's a great coach and gets the most out of his kids. Knows when to fire people (fired his DC after the first or second year for those of you referencing the Navy loss). However, a big part of his success is striking gold with the young'n Lincoln Reilly (the OC).


But he ain't leaving ECU. He's got the train rolling, so there's no reason to get off. Plus being a former ECU player + the success he's had has made him a god around here (Greenville/ECU). I just hope that when Reilly moves on, he can hire someone just as good to take his place.

 

[HurricaneU]

Three weeks ago almost nobody knew who McNeill was. Now he beats a couple mediocre teams and he is the next hot coach?

The Football Coaching Hall of Fame is paved with one-time hot programs and legendary corches.

 

[Dingaan1828]

been saying ecu coaching staff since Saturday night

What happens when they play a crappy game later this year? And, they will.

I swear every time a team has a good series of downs, someone will jump on here and make that staff the flavor of the day.

They beat bigger schools before and they caught my attention when they were whooping on fau last year and I was saying to myself they're playing a better game then we did vs fau so get off my jock

Did you see them lose to Navy 76-35?

 

[bxcanesbomber]

been saying ecu coaching staff since Saturday night

What happens when they play a crappy game later this year? And, they will.

I swear every time a team has a good series of downs, someone will jump on here and make that staff the flavor of the day.

They beat bigger schools before and they caught my attention when they were whooping on fau last year and I was saying to myself they're playing a better game then we did vs fau so get off my jock

Did you see them lose to Navy 76-35?

No but it was 2010 a rebuilding year

 

[MiamiJoe]

Three weeks ago almost nobody knew who McNeill was. Now he beats a couple mediocre teams and he is the next hot coach?

The Football Coaching Hall of Fame is paved with one-time hot programs and legendary corches.

Anybody who follows college football knew who he was before he came to ECU, get a clue.

 

[HurricaneU]

Three weeks ago almost nobody knew who McNeill was. Now he beats a couple mediocre teams and he is the next hot coach?

The Football Coaching Hall of Fame is paved with one-time hot programs and legendary corches.

Anybody who follows college football knew who he was before he came to ECU, get a clue.

No need for rustled jimmies. We are all susceptible to being prisoners of the moment.

 

[Canes2082]

For all of the clamor over Butch Davis what did he do so much different and better than AG? Both recruited well with Butch having the edge. Butch had much better talent to start his tenure at the U. Butch was 31-15 through his first 4 years, and AG is 24-17 with 8 games to play. This is not to promote AG but Butch was not much better coaching the talent when all can agree he had more to work with. So please stop with the Butch Davis Campaign! And stop the high profile candidates that are nothing more than a pipe dream for this university.

Look at the landscape of realistic candidates based on what the U is willing to pay, and you have to strongly consider IF those few candidates want to come to Miami. We love the school but not everyone share our same affection. Open your eyes people......and get out of the past!

Butch had to deal with the loss of 31 scholarships over his first 3 years as head coach. What Golden has had to deal with in comparison is peanuts. Butch also showed a willingness to adapt and an ability to grow as a HC (this was his first stint as a head man). Butch fired an underwhelming DC. At this point, Golden essentially is an underwhelming DC. How many of Butch's assistants rose to prominent NFL and college coaching positions?

So Butch is a better recruiter. But not marginally better. Leaps and bounds better at evaluating, acquiring, and DEVELOPING talent than Golden, and arguably has a better track record than any one else in college football:

see http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...cruiting-mojo-and-other-notes-from-the-1st-rd

Perhaps the most amazing thing that I heard Thursday night came from NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock, who relayed something that Butch Davis told him. On the heels of Jonathan Cooper going No. 9 overall, Mayock pointed out that the Tar Heel guard was the 33rd first-rounder that Davis had recruited during his 10 years as a college head coach (at Miami and UNC). That number would swell to 34 when DT Sly Williams was picked later in the first round.

........

For comparison sake, in Nick Saban's last dozen years as a college head coach (at Alabama and at LSU), 22 of his recruits have gone on to become first-round picks.

While I agree to a point....waiting for the NCAA as they dragged thier feet for 2 years was punishment in of itself... at least Butch knew what he was working with.

The program was in wait and see mode and that hurt a lot....

Not defending Golden, but their are similarties

 

[Billy D Williams]

What separates Butch is his knowledge of the game, scheme, development and talent recognition. He'll bring in the best coaches out there and we'll be dominating SF recruiting again. My second choice is Greg Schiano. Imagine either with Dave Wannstedt as DC.

 

[bambam]

Perhaps you didn't know about him. Say it like it is!