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A Late Fireside Chat With Your Dear Legend

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The Franchise said:
You know what, boys? Your Legend was pacing and screaming like I can't remember doing much since 2017. I've been passionate, as always, but more reserved while watching the games. Maybe I've been that way because deep down I knew we weren't really going anywhere, so why get overly worked up. Yesterday felt different. The blood pressure was up. The decibel level was up. The profanity was soaring.

Let me start by saying, come see me about Brevin Jordan, you conspiracy theory spewing fck boys. Listen to the goddam Legend. How many times do I have to talk you chumps off the conspiracy ledge? Brevin doesn't want to play. He's opting out. Manny said he was "healthy" so that means he doesn't want to play. Quit picking good kids like Brevin and dumping on them like that. Criticize the play; stay the fck away from the conspiracy **** that's melted so many underdeveloped brains in this country.

The offense has been saving the defense most of this season. Yesterday, the D got stout against a really good Vag Tech offense. Of course, it helped that Herbert was hobbled and only played a handful of plays because on the few he played, he made a difference. He was moving the pile and making yards where the other RBs just weren't.

I still think we're a pretty average team in the grand scheme of college football, which, to me, means that we're right in there with about 50 teams below the top 4 or 5. All those teams are pretty much interchangeable. But I'm grateful as fck to be in that group and not the one below it. We beat Vag Tech, but that game was even and could have gone either way. So that's way I say we're part of that average group. We've got games with Wake and UNC that will be similar. Those two teams might be a little better than Vag Tech.

Pros:

Phillips. He finally is putting the relentless play together with a little something extra. Whatever it is that's changed a bit, it's working now. He's finishing on plays where he wasn't earlier in the season. It's nice to be credited with a "pressure." It's even nicer to make a play, and he was a force yesterday.

Frierson. People don't like him celebrating, but I love it. We need more energy on this team, and he brings that. He's also bringing a tool box with him. The dude is getting better every week, which is refreshing. I'm so used to seeing our players plateau or get worse after achieving some success. He's got a nose for the ball, and he's a smart player.

Couch. I absolutely love this kid. Dudes kept telling me he was too small. Fck that. He ain't trying to guard Mike Evans. He's tough and scrappy, and that overcomes size deficiency. Duane Starks wasn't a giant either, but he was tough and would decapitate you. Couch is starting to get better and more confident every week. Love him as a blitzed too. Dude's a sack machine. He's got an uncanny knack for avoiding blocks.

King. Winner. Steady hand. Leader. He's making all the right reads and isn't putting the ball in danger. That throw he made to Wiggins on the sidelines where he dropped it over the defender was high level NFL ****. That was a long throw with perfect touch. I love him in the RPO game. That's where he seems to really shine. He's still a little robotic in the read option and struggles a little in the drop back game. That RPO game he's deadly on those slants. He hit the game winner to Pope in stride and hit Wiggins on another earlier in the game that would have been a TD if Wiggins didn't drop it.

Our WRs as a group have improved pretty dramatically the last few weeks. Clemson was their rock bottom. They had nowhere to go but up or out. They've gone way up.

Cons:

Our lack of speed in the secondary. Hall looks like a sloth back there. And he's tentative as ****. I really thought we were getting an assassin with plus athleticism, but that's not him. There was a play early where they dumped a little give up pass on 3rd and long to the RB. All Hall had to do was fly up and make the tackle short of the 1st down. Instead, he was tentative and just mirrored the guy and wound up "catching" him after he picked up the 1st.

Carter is even slower. Watching that poor dude try to chase speed guys is sad. He looks like an old man with **** in his diaper.

Blades looks listless all of a sudden. No idea what's up with him, but he is playing soft and timid.

Fake FG. Dumb call. As great as Joe B is, asking him to outrun defenders is dumb. If you want to pick that up, put it in King's hands.

Offense, overall, sputtered. That was a terrible Vag Tech D, and we let that sorry *** DT 25 destroy us. They kept getting us in 3rd and longs, we'd drop back, and they'd get to King. Our running game is still ****. Cam looks slow as ****. I don't know if he's hurt, but he looks really slow. The other 2 are quicker, but they didn't do anything of note yesterday either.

Scaife is a bum. He's either disinterested or just sorry. Dude looks like a melanin rich Matt Pipho at this point. When Campbell comes back I'd put him at G and move Scaife out of the lineup. If he's too weak to play G, then motherfcker get stronger. There's something called a weight room. Traore isn't much better, and neither is Clark. Our G game is weaker than an old lady's coffee.

Our insistence on playing scared at the end of the game or at the end of the half or on 3rd and long. Our decision to take the air out of the ball and not even try to get a 1st down could have been a disaster. We were trying to run the clock out but gave them the ball back with 2 minutes left. Very weak to just run a QB sweep give up play on 3rd and short. Get the 1st and end the game taking knees.

We probably won't play in the ACCCG because ND will have to lose twice, and we'd have to win out. But it's a lot more fun being in the mix in mid November than looking forward to getting stomped by FIU and La Tech.
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That right there has decimated the country. We think alike chise.....two different people and probably culture wise as well but I usually agree with u
 
Im with Chise, just rack up the wins, and build towards something. This is a lot like 1998 where they racked up wins, got better, and rebounded after a disastrous season prior. It was about getting back into the habit of winning, and just finding a way. I still recall that season (in 1998) them going up to Morgantown and beating a pretty talented WVU squad that had their share of NFL talent

They also lost to FSU and got hammered by the Cuse, but then had a huge victory over UCLA at the end of the year that signaled better days ahead. There were growing pains in that era, but it was important to win games. To me, real progress next Saturday will not just to beat Gatech but blow them out at home.

This team is far from elite, but I said from the beginning this was about at least putting forth a more palatable product on the field and securing this recruiting class. So far, they are getting towards that goal. But we still have three more games to play, and I think all three games are winnable(to various degrees).

I'll say this, this season has been pretty entertaining given everything that has been in play
 
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Hall and Jordan both have chronic injuries and Bolden looks like he is playing to avoid contact. He banged himself up quite a bit at the start of the season. I think all 3 are not up to snuff physically. The Matt Pipho crack was was great.
 
252cane said:
Don’t know what’s going on with hall. The crazy thing is he does supposed to have good speed. Bolden has fell off too. Carter and Jennings look like their hamstrings are about to pop when they run.
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The play chise mentioned I saw that **** and thought wow Hall is bad. I know exactly the play he's talking about and I shook my head like wow this is who Hall is? I thought for sure he would be a baller but Saban wanted Jobe more.....Hall hips are stiff and he looks slow af.
 
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The Franchise said:
You know what, boys? Your Legend was pacing and screaming like I can't remember doing much since 2017. I've been passionate, as always, but more reserved while watching the games. Maybe I've been that way because deep down I knew we weren't really going anywhere, so why get overly worked up. Yesterday felt different. The blood pressure was up. The decibel level was up. The profanity was soaring.

Let me start by saying, come see me about Brevin Jordan, you conspiracy theory spewing fck boys. Listen to the goddam Legend. How many times do I have to talk you chumps off the conspiracy ledge? Brevin doesn't want to play. He's opting out. Manny said he was "healthy" so that means he doesn't want to play. Quit picking good kids like Brevin and dumping on them like that. Criticize the play; stay the fck away from the conspiracy **** that's melted so many underdeveloped brains in this country.

The offense has been saving the defense most of this season. Yesterday, the D got stout against a really good Vag Tech offense. Of course, it helped that Herbert was hobbled and only played a handful of plays because on the few he played, he made a difference. He was moving the pile and making yards where the other RBs just weren't.

I still think we're a pretty average team in the grand scheme of college football, which, to me, means that we're right in there with about 50 teams below the top 4 or 5. All those teams are pretty much interchangeable. But I'm grateful as fck to be in that group and not the one below it. We beat Vag Tech, but that game was even and could have gone either way. So that's way I say we're part of that average group. We've got games with Wake and UNC that will be similar. Those two teams might be a little better than Vag Tech.

Pros:

Phillips. He finally is putting the relentless play together with a little something extra. Whatever it is that's changed a bit, it's working now. He's finishing on plays where he wasn't earlier in the season. It's nice to be credited with a "pressure." It's even nicer to make a play, and he was a force yesterday.

Frierson. People don't like him celebrating, but I love it. We need more energy on this team, and he brings that. He's also bringing a tool box with him. The dude is getting better every week, which is refreshing. I'm so used to seeing our players plateau or get worse after achieving some success. He's got a nose for the ball, and he's a smart player.

Couch. I absolutely love this kid. Dudes kept telling me he was too small. Fck that. He ain't trying to guard Mike Evans. He's tough and scrappy, and that overcomes size deficiency. Duane Starks wasn't a giant either, but he was tough and would decapitate you. Couch is starting to get better and more confident every week. Love him as a blitzed too. Dude's a sack machine. He's got an uncanny knack for avoiding blocks.

King. Winner. Steady hand. Leader. He's making all the right reads and isn't putting the ball in danger. That throw he made to Wiggins on the sidelines where he dropped it over the defender was high level NFL ****. That was a long throw with perfect touch. I love him in the RPO game. That's where he seems to really shine. He's still a little robotic in the read option and struggles a little in the drop back game. That RPO game he's deadly on those slants. He hit the game winner to Pope in stride and hit Wiggins on another earlier in the game that would have been a TD if Wiggins didn't drop it.

Our WRs as a group have improved pretty dramatically the last few weeks. Clemson was their rock bottom. They had nowhere to go but up or out. They've gone way up.

Cons:

Our lack of speed in the secondary. Hall looks like a sloth back there. And he's tentative as ****. I really thought we were getting an assassin with plus athleticism, but that's not him. There was a play early where they dumped a little give up pass on 3rd and long to the RB. All Hall had to do was fly up and make the tackle short of the 1st down. Instead, he was tentative and just mirrored the guy and wound up "catching" him after he picked up the 1st.

Carter is even slower. Watching that poor dude try to chase speed guys is sad. He looks like an old man with **** in his diaper.

Blades looks listless all of a sudden. No idea what's up with him, but he is playing soft and timid.

Fake FG. Dumb call. As great as Joe B is, asking him to outrun defenders is dumb. If you want to pick that up, put it in King's hands.

Offense, overall, sputtered. That was a terrible Vag Tech D, and we let that sorry *** DT 25 destroy us. They kept getting us in 3rd and longs, we'd drop back, and they'd get to King. Our running game is still ****. Cam looks slow as ****. I don't know if he's hurt, but he looks really slow. The other 2 are quicker, but they didn't do anything of note yesterday either.

Scaife is a bum. He's either disinterested or just sorry. Dude looks like a melanin rich Matt Pipho at this point. When Campbell comes back I'd put him at G and move Scaife out of the lineup. If he's too weak to play G, then motherfcker get stronger. There's something called a weight room. Traore isn't much better, and neither is Clark. Our G game is weaker than an old lady's coffee.

Our insistence on playing scared at the end of the game or at the end of the half or on 3rd and long. Our decision to take the air out of the ball and not even try to get a 1st down could have been a disaster. We were trying to run the clock out but gave them the ball back with 2 minutes left. Very weak to just run a QB sweep give up play on 3rd and short. Get the 1st and end the game taking knees.

We probably won't play in the ACCCG because ND will have to lose twice, and we'd have to win out. But it's a lot more fun being in the mix in mid November than looking forward to getting stomped by FIU and La Tech.
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Great stuff as always Chise. Agree on Bolden. Dude has either hit a wall or he's playing hurt. The undisciplined nature of this team annoys the **** out of me. That unsportsmanlike against Bolden right after Phillips got done disembowling Hooker setting up 3rd and 19 was pure selfish, brain dead undisciplined horse **** and Diaz is a phucking cuck for putting up with it.

There is no excuse for having the type of issues we do in the back seven. The level of speed and talent at LB and in the secondary is a **** disgrace. We're got kids that can run like Huff, and Cave but they mostly never play. The CB group as a whole in terms of depth and everything else is the result of gross negligence and/or incompetence and Rumph has to go right along with Beeker.

Why are we constantly coached by gutless cowards? What is it about UM that has turned us into a shrine for Woody Hayes? Why do all our coaches seem to love "taking the air out of the football" as you like to say? That sequence before the half and especially the Buck sweep play call on 3rd and 5 with a chance to ice the game was pure gutlessness if that is even a word. Our offense may have some holes yes but we are perfectly capable of picking up 5 yards to ice a game against a garbage VT defense. Why? I just don't understand this insistence of playing tentative and timid play not to lose football. Sometimes the conservative route is the smart way to go but Diaz wouldn't know that without consulting his analytics cheat sheet. Going for 2 on our last 2 TDs were also amateurish calls for obvious reasons.

Believe it or not I am enjoying this season. Like you said, I know that we are not really going to challenge for a conference or national championship this year but that doesn't mean I don't love watching our kids play every Saturday. Lashlee and King have made a huge difference in this team and I'm enjoying every minute of it especially considering the disaster that was 2019. Had you told me after FIU last year that we would be in this position this year I would have laughed in your face. Now, wether we finish 10-1 or 8-3 Diaz has got to do the same thing he did with the offense last year to the defense this year. It doesn't take a football nerd to realize just how pedestrian our coaching staff is on the Defensive side of the ball. Beeker has to go along with practically every position coach on that side. I'm all in on your suggestion of grabbing Freeman from Cincinnati. I think he would be perfect for us. I also love the DC at Wisconsin Leonard but not sure how feasible that would be. I'd also consider Corey Raymond from LSU even if he has never been a DC since the coaching acumen, recruiting ability and potential connections he would bring would be considerable. Just get Beeker out of my face!

We're obviously not in that first tier but the frustrating thing is that we all know that given the right type of leadership this U has the resources necessary to get there again. No matter as I am still thoroughly enjoying this season. The opportunity to take care of business vs GT and Wake to set up a potential revenge scenario showdown with UNC that could see us at 10-1 To finish the season is something that could serve to give this program a much needed shot in the arm in terms of national attention and perception. These are the types of games that built this program. A 10-1 regular season would do wonders for recruiting. It's been very enjoyable thus far. I'm all in.
 
Trav said:
Not true at all. Carter played as a freshman. Hall played some. Balom played a bunch vs Clemson.
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This dude is saying they gonna start.. Most of those guys had spot duty and very limited snaps, not the same thing.. Lets not be obtuse.. Balom came in because dudes were head hunting, lol.. We had multiple guys ejected or waiting to come back after halftime
 
FrancisSawyer said:
Wisconsin Leonard
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Leonard - runs a 3-4. Probably a bad fit.

Raymond-- we've got enough inexperienced coaches. If Diaz does fire
Baker, upgrade to a real DC. Raymond can be a position coach

Freeman- solid choice

Another team with a top D that gets no love is San Diego St.

App State is also sneaky good

And this might be hard to believe but the currently the 2nd best D in the SEC belongs to the University of Kentucky. Last year the D finished one spot behind Bama. I would look at pilfering some of Stoops staff.

My #1 choice is still Don Brown though.
 
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@TimeB0mb I'm very well aware that Raymond has never been a DC before but I would not label him inexperienced in terms of being a defensive coach at a big time program. Since we're not necessarily the type of program that succeeds going after the big name experienced coordinators I would view Raymond as an acceptable type of risk. Raymond is considered one of if not the best DB coach in all of college football. He is also an elite recruiter who has coached under some very accomplished DCs such as David Aradna, John Chavis and Kevin Steele. I'm in complete agreement regarding us hiring a DC with experience. That would obviously be a huge preference. Did not remember that Leonard runs a 3-4 so I concur in terms of potential fit. Could he switch to a 4-3 base? I'm not the person to ask as far as how realistic and/or feasable that would be for a DC. Ultimately I believe that Marcus Freeman would be an excellent choice. Don Brown is certainly experienced but isn't he a 100 years old by now? lol
 
The Franchise said:
I saw Baker signaling plays in in the 2nd half. So I'm not sure I'm buying the Manny calling plays stuff. We hear the same stuff every year with our HCs.

I'm not sure guys like Muschimp and Brown are what they used to be. We've been burned before hiring guys on the downside of their careers. I'd got get Marcus Freeman from Cincinnati. I love the way they get after it.
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Manny had the playsheet and the tape was coming to him. Baker signaled because the team relies on multiple people signaling plays.

Lashlee doesnt signal the plays on his own, hes got like five or six guys assisting.

I still think Manny called it and Baker helped with signaling.
 
If we had lost the game, I would have been on here calling for Lashlee's head for that 3rd and 5 call.

It was absolutely horrific. I would even include the fake FG, given the weapons at our disposal and the decision to run it with a relatively nonathletic kicker.

Our penalties are mind numbing. There has to be some accountability. They will cost us a game at some point.

But I do agree - These games are fun and it feels good to have a baller QB after the carousel of crap that has been Wright/Freeman/Marve/Perry/Williams + the average to good Harris/Morris/Kaaya/Rosier (only for the 2017 season).

@The Franchise You think Baker is gone at year end? You would think so right?
 
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