A full defensive scheme breakdown (it's ugly)

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Four reasons this defense is so utterly wretched:

The number 4 reason: The most important position on a 3-4 defense is the "Lawrence Taylor" OLB. Demarcus Ware, Terrell Suggs, Aldon Smith, LaMarr Woodley, Clay Matthews, Quinton Coples, Chandler Jones, Mario Williams (in Houston), James Harrison, Robert Mathis (under Pagano). It's simply the most athletic dominant freak athlete player on your defense. And this staff plays Shayon Green there, who is easily our least athletic defender.

The number 3 reason: Specialists. AQM and McCord are brought in for one thing: rush the passer on third and long. How can we expect them to improve as run blockers, playing coverage, dropping into zones, and reading plays when their entire existence is to do some uncreative stunt? These are not finished products, and by having so many specialists you are basically ruining any talent advantage you might have. Curtis Porter might have become a disruptive inside presence, but he never gets to rush the passer.

The number 2 reason: The Hybrid fronts: This is related to number 2, but deserves expounding upon. Nick Saban's 2011 defense featured Courtney Upshaw (a first round talent, who was dynamic and dominant in college). Courtney Upshaw is no more athletic, talented, strong, or fast than AQM or McCord. Yet he played EVERY DOWN. And he always played OLB, even when he was rushing the passer with his hand on the ground, meaning he wasn't shifting between being a DE and an OLB. He wasn't being coached up by a guy who for half the DE's he is teaching two gap principles, and the other half of the DE's single gap rushing. If we play 3-4, AQM is our LT OLB. He should be coached up by a dedicated LB coach, or more preferably an OLB coach. He should be learning to cover in man on occasion, play a zone, zone blitz, learn contain in the run game, and perfect his outside pass rush. He shouldn't be wasting time in the same position group as say Anthony Chickillo. But he is. Essentially they are teaching two very different fronts at the same time.

If we are a 4-3 team, Anthony Chickillo should be working on passrush, shooting the gap, so when 3rd down comes and he is asked to be a one gap interior rusher, he's not forced into a role that is opposite of his training. If you ask guys to wear two hats, they will never look good in either hat. When the NYG started doing the 4 DE on third down thing, they weren't asking two 2-gap guys to move to the interior and turn into one gap guys. They instead used FOUR gap shooting passrushing DE's. When the Steelers get third and long, their 2-gap DE's stay on the field, and basically try to occupy OL so that there are gaps for blitzers, all the while an edge rusher faces a 1-1. Pick one of these philosophies and use it. Using both, on the college level, is IDIOCY.

The number 1 reason All of the above, while foolish, detrimental to development, and impossible to field an elite defense, could still be worked around if we ran a 4-2-5 or 3-3-5 and either either: 1)played man coverage all game underneath Cover 0, Cover 1 2) played Cover 6 cover 2 and zone blitzed a lot.

Why are we asking our best defenders (our CBs) to play like Safeties, while taking our worst defenders (our Safeties), and asking them to move post snap with varying reads and responsibilities? And at the same time asking our 3-4 ILB to play sideline to sideline over a huge area like 4-3 OLB? Running a cover 3 out of a 3-4 two gap with no natural pass rush and no intricate blitzes is idiocy, to me.

And one last thing. It worked decently well at temple bc: 1) they could change coverages and blitz much more b.c. Temple kids are there for five years, which will never happen here unless our players suck 2) MAC QBs are more prone to mistakes and impatience which lead to turnovers 3) Mo Wilkerson is an elite stud NFL player who was probably such a focal point for MAC OL blocking schemes that their system appeared better than it actually was.....
 
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Dont forget to mention that Temple sucked for so many years and were in the Big East, but then while in the MAC, thats when the team looked like they had improved so drastically when in reality they were just playing less talented opponents.
 
Dont forget to mention that Temple sucked for so many years and were in the Big East, but then while in the MAC, thats when the team looked like they had improved so drastically when in reality they were just playing less talented opponents.

I'm not sure I give so much credence to that, as much as the fact that these guys are great recruiters, and they had more talent eventually than some other teams.

The amazing thing is if they just ran AGs 3-4 man or D's 4-3 zone, they'd probably solve most of their issues. Combining the systems has basically been a huge fail at the BCS level.
 
Bottom line is, it is a scheme issue. The players have no idea where to be. They are lost. They don't understand their responsibilities. Regardless of how good or bad the scheme is, the scheme needs to be adjusted so the players can play faster and be in the right position. They need to be around the ball before they can make a play. How a 4-5 yard pass goes for 20 yards every time tells me that our players don't have a clue which goes back to coaching.
 
Like many I want McCord on the field more. Put him as a rush only OLB like UGA did with Jarvis jones
 
That's a great post by the OP.

I agree with everything, but the one thing that stands out every single game is Shayon Green. How can his constant requirement to play in space ever be defended? Even if they think they don't have a dynamic guy to play that spot, you have to figure McCord or AQM can better handle the responsibilities/could grow into the role. Can't win football games getting no pressure, any bad QB can complete passes with 5 seconds to pass every time.
 
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Bottom line is, it is a scheme issue. The players have no idea where to be. They are lost. They don't understand their responsibilities. Regardless of how good or bad the scheme is, the scheme needs to be adjusted so the players can play faster and be in the right position. They need to be around the ball before they can make a play. How a 4-5 yard pass goes for 20 yards every time tells me that our players don't have a clue which goes back to coaching.

Seriously. If a defender is 2 or 3 yards away from a receiver when he catches a pass it's either a great route by the receiver or a mistake by the defender, but if the nearest defender is 10-15 yards away how could it not be coaching/scheme (a complete lack of understanding of the defense is something I'd also charge to coaching)?

React > Think.
 
I was concerned that this scheme was too complex for the college level. They have classes to attend too, this isn't the pros.

Judging by the stats it's proving to be.
 
I agree that we're missing a 'L.T.' type of pass rusher at the LB spot. However, our biggest problem on defense is being too predictable. Once again Logan put up video game type numbers against our defense.
 
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Excellent post. It clarifies why our defense always looks "off-balance" and reactive rather than aggressive.

We are not playing to the strengths of our athletes on defense. Instead, we are asking them to play against their natural tendencies.

The Temple explanation makes sense. We need to pick one scheme and stick to it.
 
I was concerned that this scheme was too complex for the college level. They have classes to attend too, this isn't the pros.

Judging by the stats it's proving to be.

Yep they only get 20 hours a week. In the pros football is life.
 
I agree that we're missing a 'L.T.' type of pass rusher at the LB spot. However, our biggest problem on defense in being too predictable. Once again Logan put up video game type numbers against our defense.

This too. Look at Stanford's 3-4. It's nasty aggressive, and you never know where the pain is coming from.
 
The amazing thing is if they just ran AGs 3-4 man or D's 4-3 zone, they'd probably solve most of their issues.

So why don't they?
Because they think they are outsmarting the CFB world by running two schemes cause everyone knows two different schemes are better than one

Although I am not ready to jump off this staff's bandwagon, trying to outsmart the room is definitely a problem with this staff. Exhibit A, the Oline(I am not sure if they are still doing the idiotic reshuffling). Worst of all is that these philosophies start with the head coach.
 
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Bottom line is, it is a scheme issue. The players have no idea where to be. They are lost. They don't understand their responsibilities. Regardless of how good or bad the scheme is, the scheme needs to be adjusted so the players can play faster and be in the right position. They need to be around the ball before they can make a play. How a 4-5 yard pass goes for 20 yards every time tells me that our players don't have a clue which goes back to coaching.

Seriously. If a defender is 2 or 3 yards away from a receiver when he catches a pass it's either a great route by the receiver or a mistake by the defender, but if the nearest defender is 10-15 yards away how could it not be coaching/scheme (a complete lack of understanding of the defense is something I'd also charge to coaching)?

React > Think.

Exactly what I've been saying but I'm being told that it's talent. LOL
 
1st: this is Goldens D as much as Coach Ds defense. They deserve equal blame and it is a tremendous failure on their part.

2nd: I just keep on wondering what the **** is their end game here. We have guys like McCord and AQM. Recruiting guys like Jackson, Smith, Harris. Where are they going to play on this defense? We run nothing from our 3-4 that makes it a potentially good defense. Easy to pre snap read blitz schemes, no
Aggressiveness, no disguising coverages, etc.

So frustrating and confusing. How can two defensive coaches possibly think they are getting the most out of the players? How can they think it's not a schematic issue when bad QBs continue to light us up?
 
Serious question. Is the defense something that nobody has ever run before? I mean, to me there has to be some disconnect somewhere. I would assume that while they add their own wrinkles to a previous coaches defense that this is something that has been run many times over. With that said why is there nobody covering the crossing routes? This has to be unique to Miami's d as no coach would ever run this defense again once they saw how easy it was to beat. Why are the flats open by 15 yds on every play? Again I doubt any coach that has run this d in the past would give this up so easily. Many have questioned having the LBs covering the crossing pattern across the field but I thought we played zone, so shouldnt the wr just get passed along as he crosses the field? This has to go beyond just bad scheme or guys spot dropping or talent. I would really like to know from those that are knowledgeable.
 
I agree with OP. There was a minimal pass rush last night, we need to get something going.

The other thing that bothered me last night were 3rd downs. Every time, we had the chance to get them off the field, they would throw to an open crossing route and go for a big gain. It was seen with Stanfords catch, which resulted in the poorest tackling and the play for a TD where Gunter popped the ball out but with just our luck it ended up in the endzone for a VTech TD. Why arent the LBs covering those routes or a safety? pretty much what Im trying to say is why arent we running man coverage? Why not put you young talent out there?

Cornileus is just too slow to react and cover anyone. We have see this the last 2 weeks. Take those senior that you think deserve time to play and actually play the guys that can make plays.

It has been frustrating to see all these players come in and not be used effectively. There needs to be a change!
 
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