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a few things that were maddening yesterday (Duke debacle)

hoops156 said:
if we didnt shift the O to fit TVD more, do you think young looks even remotely good?
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As i said, we shifted to throw the ball 40-50 times per game last 3 games. Those balls have to go somewhere. Young stepped up and looks great. No one else has at all. WR's cant blame the offense scheme anymore for lack of performance
 
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PIPO said:
Correct but if you look closely, there is a Linebacker out of position as well on the left side of the pick. I believe it’s Keontra.
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I see him as well as the OG getting ready to remove him from the play.
 
k9cane said:
there's a ton of issues on this team/program, its never just one thing. But a couple of things were maddening to me yesterday during the game.

First, there were about 3 situations near the goal/red zone where I kept thinking,''Watch the QB draw'' with Riley Leonard (who is a good athlete) and our defense seemed completely unprepared for it (and Duke was highly successful with it). But you had to know that when you play Duke some sort of QB keeper(draw, counter, sweep, whatever) is a possibility, especially on 3rd downs. I dont know if it's our coaches not alerting our guys, or preparing for it, or the players just not having enough football IQ (something Ive harped on a lot recently)

Then near the end of the first half, UM gets the ball somewhere near midfield and about 2.20 left on the clock with a timeout. Plenty of time to do something. Well, they proceed to run the ball three times for all of 10 yards, and by the time the chains are moved, there was less than a minute left, and Garcia ended up throwing an INT. That was one of the worst two-minute drives Ive ever seen. There was no tempo or urgency, on top of really conservative play calling.

Later on, we had a 3rd and 3, and we were down in the second half, you kinda knew this was a 4-down situation. Well, one of the plays was a rollout to the left with a right-handed QB. The play never seemed to have a chance. Why in the world are we running that, at all. I just don't get it. That drive ended with an incomplete pass, and the rest of the game devolved into a turnover-fest

Is this players or coaches, or a bit of both?

I can't really tell you, but it aint' good.

Anyways, hope everyone has a good Sunday
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— Everyone except Miami players were ready for Leonard to run that ball as it was the highest-reward, lowest-risk play for Duke; keep it in his hands, block well and run straight ahead—shortest distance between two points.

When everyone expected it a third or fourth time, a brilliant little designed shovel pass (as I think Kitchens got in there and was about to finally wrap him up) and they find a new way to score.

— Also moronic (coaching call); going for it on 4th-and-3 from the Duke 44-yard line instead of punting and pinning in what was a 24-21 game at the time. Just because Duke was converting their fourth downs, the Canes thought they could do the same—with a back-up quarterback and bad running game—and it cost them, as the Blue Devils were in the end zone five plays later, only going 56 yards.

4th-and-1, sure ... even though Miami had already gotten stopped there ... and on 4th-and-3, IF you're going, why isn't Brown in the game instead of Garcia?

Take a shot on Hedley pinning them deep and work to flip the field. Instead, they threw the game away completely in that moment—down 31-21 early fourth quarter. (Next possession Garcia was sacked and fumbled on 3rd-and-5 and Duke had the ball on the 25-yard line—scoring again in four plays.)
 
stormsurge said:
there was a challenge of where to spot the ball in the middle of a scrum that i thought was a foolish challenge

mario needs to self-analyze and turn over what he doesnt do well

we cant be a nc threat without having coordinators that are not excellent game day planning and adjustment guys
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Miami needs to build a roster full of capable players before it does anything else.

Safe bet there's coaching turnover this off-season—but worrying about being a threat to win championships, when this team lost to MTSU and was was blown out by Duke—bigger personnel issues before we lose sleep over coordinators being championship-caliber level.
 
k9cane said:
there's a ton of issues on this team/program, its never just one thing. But a couple of things were maddening to me yesterday during the game.

First, there were about 3 situations near the goal/red zone where I kept thinking,''Watch the QB draw'' with Riley Leonard (who is a good athlete) and our defense seemed completely unprepared for it (and Duke was highly successful with it). But you had to know that when you play Duke some sort of QB keeper(draw, counter, sweep, whatever) is a possibility, especially on 3rd downs. I dont know if it's our coaches not alerting our guys, or preparing for it, or the players just not having enough football IQ (something Ive harped on a lot recently)

Then near the end of the first half, UM gets the ball somewhere near midfield and about 2.20 left on the clock with a timeout. Plenty of time to do something. Well, they proceed to run the ball three times for all of 10 yards, and by the time the chains are moved, there was less than a minute left, and Garcia ended up throwing an INT. That was one of the worst two-minute drives Ive ever seen. There was no tempo or urgency, on top of really conservative play calling.

Later on, we had a 3rd and 3, and we were down in the second half, you kinda knew this was a 4-down situation. Well, one of the plays was a rollout to the left with a right-handed QB. The play never seemed to have a chance. Why in the world are we running that, at all. I just don't get it. That drive ended with an incomplete pass, and the rest of the game devolved into a turnover-fest

Is this players or coaches, or a bit of both?

I can't really tell you, but it aint' good.

Anyways, hope everyone has a good Sunday
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All of that is gospel. The rollout play made me finally say “ok these guys coaching actually know less then me”.
 
It's a mixture of coaching and medicore talent. I said before the beginning of the season on paper were a 7-8 win team with solid coaching, 9-10 with great coaching. Unfortunately we have had poor coaching, were very undisciplined and make tons of mental mistakes. The areas Mario was suppose to help with OL and the running game have somehow gotten worse then with Lashlee? Our roster is good enough to be 5-2 right now, we have more talent then middle Tennessee and Duke, unfortunately they out coached and embarrassed us.
 
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hoops156 said:
his mom went off on twitter about something gattis did in the locker room. I guess a trash OC called this the worst offense hes seen or some **** (I dont disagree bc the offense sucks *** and can't score but gattis is at fault for that too and a huge fault for that). basically, she referenced him going to USC.
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And watch him avg 700+ yards per season.
 
The QB draw has hurt us in both the UNC and Duke games. Defense has made very little adjustments to stop it even when it was predictable.
 
hoops156 said:
his mom went off on twitter about something gattis did in the locker room. I guess a trash OC called this the worst offense hes seen or some **** (I dont disagree bc the offense sucks *** and can't score but gattis is at fault for that too and a huge fault for that). basically, she referenced him going to USC.
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People are too ignorant to realize crap like this makes everyone look bad Including themselves.
 
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I don't think Mario will fire Gattis, he runs the offense Mario wants and he even ran the spread the last couple games but we still failed. If Mario fires him it will be because of off the field stuff and situational play calling. Mario will just bring in a similar coach, a lot of these players can't handle Mario style of coaching and I think that's taking its toll. When your an old school style coach and you don't win it brings out a lot of issued off the field. I wouldn't be surprised if we see 15+ transfers at the end of the season with numerous players who have actually started.
 
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Mackmiller974 said:
I don't think Mario will fire Gattis, he runs the offense Mario wants and he even ran the spread the last couple games but we still failed. If Mario fires him it will be because of off the field stuff and situational play calling. Mario will just bring in a similar coach, a lot of these players can't handle Mario style of coaching and I think that's taking its toll. When your an old school style coach and you don't win it brings out a lot of issued off the field. I wouldn't be surprised if we see 15+ transfers at the end of the season with numerous players who have actually started.
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15? Try 20-30.
 
All you had to do was watch last week's Duke game against UNC, you knew that the QB draw was coming up... what the **** are our coaches and players watching
.....we have some lazy coaches and players
 
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