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a few things that were maddening yesterday (Duke debacle)

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there's a ton of issues on this team/program, its never just one thing. But a couple of things were maddening to me yesterday during the game.

First, there were about 3 situations near the goal/red zone where I kept thinking,''Watch the QB draw'' with Riley Leonard (who is a good athlete) and our defense seemed completely unprepared for it (and Duke was highly successful with it). But you had to know that when you play Duke some sort of QB keeper(draw, counter, sweep, whatever) is a possibility, especially on 3rd downs. I dont know if it's our coaches not alerting our guys, or preparing for it, or the players just not having enough football IQ (something Ive harped on a lot recently)

Then near the end of the first half, UM gets the ball somewhere near midfield and about 2.20 left on the clock with a timeout. Plenty of time to do something. Well, they proceed to run the ball three times for all of 10 yards, and by the time the chains are moved, there was less than a minute left, and Garcia ended up throwing an INT. That was one of the worst two-minute drives Ive ever seen. There was no tempo or urgency, on top of really conservative play calling.

Later on, we had a 3rd and 3, and we were down in the second half, you kinda knew this was a 4-down situation. Well, one of the plays was a rollout to the left with a right-handed QB. The play never seemed to have a chance. Why in the world are we running that, at all. I just don't get it. That drive ended with an incomplete pass, and the rest of the game devolved into a turnover-fest

Is this players or coaches, or a bit of both?

I can't really tell you, but it aint' good.

Anyways, hope everyone has a good Sunday
 
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k9cane said:
there's a ton of issues on this team/program, its never just one thing. But a couple of things were maddening to me yesterday during the game.

First, there were about 3 situations near the goal/red zone where I kept thinking,''Watch the QB draw'' with Riley Leonard (who is a good athlete) and our defense seemed completely unprepared for it (and Duke was highly successful with it). But you had to know that when you play Duke some sort of QB keeper(draw, counter, sweep, whatever) is a possibility, especially on 3rd downs. I dont know if it's our coaches not alerting our guys, or preparing for it, or the players just not having enough football IQ (something Ive harped on a lot recently)

Then near the end of the first half, UM gets the ball somewhere near midfield and about 2.20 left on the clock with a timeout. Plenty of time to do something. Well, they proceed to run the ball three times for all of 10 yards, and by the time the chains are moved, there was less than a minute left, and Garcia ended up throwing an INT. That was one of the worst two-minute drives Ive ever seen. There was no tempo or urgency, on top of really conservative play calling.

Later on, we had a 3rd and 3, and we were down in the second half, you kinda knew this was a 4-down situation. Well, one of the plays was a rollout to the left with a right-handed QB. The play never seemed to have a chance. Why in the world are we running that, at all. I just don't get it. That drive ended with an incomplete pass, and the rest of the game devolved into a turnover-fest

Is this players or coaches, or a bit of both?

I can't really tell you, but it aint' good.

Anyways, hope everyone has a good Sunday
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bolded - this is the same thing we saw in multiple games this season. the staff and offense as a whole moves as if there is 8 min left no matter what. its honestly like they never practice a 2 min offense
 
10 turn overs. 10 turn overs. Let me say it a 3rd time ten turn overs. That is enough to lose any game.

I've never seen 10 turn overs by a team in the modern Era. It is atrocious.

I blame the line for nearly all of them. We can't run the ball and we let defenders get free shots on our QB. The line is soft. It starts with them.
 
jackedaround said:
10 turn overs. 10 turn overs. Let me say it a 3rd time ten turn overs. That is enough to lose any game.

I've never seen 10 turn overs by a team in the modern Era. It is atrocious.

I blame the line for nearly all of them. We can't run the ball and we let defenders get free shots on our QB. The line is soft. It starts with them.
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wasnt it 'only' 8? (yeah, but neither is good, lol)
 
k9cane said:
Then near the end of the first half, UM gets the ball somewhere near midfield and about 2.20 left on the clock with a timeout. Plenty of time to do something. Well, they proceed to run the ball three times for all of 10 yards, and by the time the chains are moved, there was less than a minute left, and Garcia ended up throwing an INT. That was one of the worst two-minute drives Ive ever seen. There was no tempo or urgency, on top of really conservative play calling.

Later on, we had a 3rd and 3, and we were down in the second half, you kinda knew this was a 4-down situation. Well, one of the plays was a rollout to the left with a right-handed QB. The play never seemed to have a chance. Why in the world are we running that, at all. I just don't get it. That drive ended with an incomplete pass, and the rest of the game devolved into a turnover-fest
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This. Gattis has adjusted to go pass happy but on a 2 min drill he runs 3 times in a row. I couldn't f'ing believe. I can totally understand running once, catch the D off guards, try to get first down to stop the clock, but 3 in a row? LOL

And that 3rd and 3 playcall was downright awful for Garcia. He was garbage but help him out. For example, the TD to Mallory but a beautiful playcall (one of the only times i can say that about gattis), 3 WR's to the right all went left, whole D went left, mallory sneaks out to the right, wide open, TD. But 3rd and 3 and roll him out to the left. LOL

$1.8M and this is what you get. Absolute joke
 
Odin said:
Great points.Another head scratching play was on 4th and 9 and Flagg drops 20 yds back into the safeties leaving all that field open for an easy 1st.Our off is so slow paced drawing the clock down to a second or 2 every snap that they just can't play fast even at desperate situations.
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that one was unreal, you could see that from the regular TV broadcast how far he was in his drop...
 
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Meast21 said:
This. Gattis has adjusted to go pass happy but on a 2 min drill he runs 3 times in a row. I couldn't f'ing believe. I can totally understand running once, catch the D off guards, try to get first down to stop the clock, but 3 in a row? LOL

And that 3rd and 3 playcall was downright awful for Garcia. He was garbage but help him out. For example, the TD to Mallory but a beautiful playcall (one of the only times i can say that about gattis), 3 WR's to the right all went left, whole D went left, mallory sneaks out to the right, wide open, TD.
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Meast, I agree, you run once just to keep the clock running and shave some time off the clock in case Duke got the ball back. I get that

But once they ran it twice, I was like, 'ah geez, what are we doing?!?!"
 
k9cane said:
there's a ton of issues on this team/program, its never just one thing. But a couple of things were maddening to me yesterday during the game.

First, there were about 3 situations near the goal/red zone where I kept thinking,''Watch the QB draw'' with Riley Leonard (who is a good athlete) and our defense seemed completely unprepared for it (and Duke was highly successful with it). But you had to know that when you play Duke some sort of QB keeper(draw, counter, sweep, whatever) is a possibility, especially on 3rd downs. I dont know if it's our coaches not alerting our guys, or preparing for it, or the players just not having enough football IQ (something Ive harped on a lot recently)

Then near the end of the first half, UM gets the ball somewhere near midfield and about 2.20 left on the clock with a timeout. Plenty of time to do something. Well, they proceed to run the ball three times for all of 10 yards, and by the time the chains are moved, there was less than a minute left, and Garcia ended up throwing an INT. That was one of the worst two-minute drives Ive ever seen. There was no tempo or urgency, on top of really conservative play calling.

Later on, we had a 3rd and 3, and we were down in the second half, you kinda knew this was a 4-down situation. Well, one of the plays was a rollout to the left with a right-handed QB. The play never seemed to have a chance. Why in the world are we running that, at all. I just don't get it. That drive ended with an incomplete pass, and the rest of the game devolved into a turnover-fest

Is this players or coaches, or a bit of both?

I can't really tell you, but it aint' good.

Anyways, hope everyone has a good Sunday
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Last year we were one of the fastest teams in CFB this year we look like a monkey humping a football in every two minute situation. Situationally we’re bad in every facet. How we don’t have a spy inside the ten is mind blowing. Or at least blitz the A gaps to force him out of the pocket to take away half the field. Mind blowing.
 
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k9cane said:
there's a ton of issues on this team/program, its never just one thing. But a couple of things were maddening to me yesterday during the game.

First, there were about 3 situations near the goal/red zone where I kept thinking,''Watch the QB draw'' with Riley Leonard (who is a good athlete) and our defense seemed completely unprepared for it (and Duke was highly successful with it). But you had to know that when you play Duke some sort of QB keeper(draw, counter, sweep, whatever) is a possibility, especially on 3rd downs. I dont know if it's our coaches not alerting our guys, or preparing for it, or the players just not having enough football IQ (something Ive harped on a lot recently)

Then near the end of the first half, UM gets the ball somewhere near midfield and about 2.20 left on the clock with a timeout. Plenty of time to do something. Well, they proceed to run the ball three times for all of 10 yards, and by the time the chains are moved, there was less than a minute left, and Garcia ended up throwing an INT. That was one of the worst two-minute drives Ive ever seen. There was no tempo or urgency, on top of really conservative play calling.

Later on, we had a 3rd and 3, and we were down in the second half, you kinda knew this was a 4-down situation. Well, one of the plays was a rollout to the left with a right-handed QB. The play never seemed to have a chance. Why in the world are we running that, at all. I just don't get it. That drive ended with an incomplete pass, and the rest of the game devolved into a turnover-fest

Is this players or coaches, or a bit of both?

I can't really tell you, but it aint' good.

Anyways, hope everyone has a good Sunday
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It's on both, but everything rises and falls on leadership
 
Cribby said:
Last year we were one of the fastest teams in CFB this year we look like a monkey humping a football in every two minute situation. Situationally we’re bad in every facet. How we don’t have a spy inside the ten is mind blowing. Or at least blitz the A gaps to force him out of the pocket to take away half the field. Mind blowing.
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Truth. How in the F did we get so 🐌 slow?
 
k9cane said:
Meast, I agree, you run once just to keep the clock running and shave some time off the clock in case Duke got the ball back. I get that

But once they ran it twice, I was like, 'ah geez, what are we doing?!?!"
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I texted a friend “ are we taking it to the half at midfield“? Lmao. That situation is not players , that’s coaches.
 
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