3 must areas of improvement

[E1k]

We still struggled to run against GT’s 3 and 4 man fronts.

Everyone just caught on to our tendencies, thats why i keep saying tvd had nothing to do with dawson offense just not having many layers. It was the same at Houston

Still think its enough with cam tho

 

[Cash]

Red Zone scoring: more TDs, less field goals

Turnovers: costly and untimely last year

Attitude: play super hard every game. The effort vs Rutgers gave agita

Who do you blame for that? Dawson or TVD?

 

[Cash]

The bowl game was half of our team vs. Rutgers team minus a CB in a home game for them.

We had 2 CBs starting at safety where they hadnt ever played before in Couch and Davis.

We had a QB that hadnt taken a snap in a game all Season. Our starting RB got hurt on the 3rd play of the game. We started a C and a LG that had only taken a few snaps all season. We only had 2 DE's available for the game, both true freshman.

Why do people bring up that exhibition game?

It’s called cherry picking

 

[Cortez55403]

Who do you blame for that? Dawson or TVD?

Both: 75% TVD and 25% Dawson

TVD had a special knack for not reading coverages correctly, particularly in the Red Zone. He inexplicably put the ball in harms way on the shortened field.

Dawson retreated from his creative playcalling shown against TA&M and failed to develop a sophisticated run game

 

[mirvin88]

I’m kinda surprised by the amount of folks who believe we are talent deficient.

Are we top 3-5 in talent? No. You get to that level when do well or exceed expectations with the talent you have. We’ve had some holes but we perform no where near what we should.

I watch a good amount of college football and from a talent perspective I promise we consistently have enough talent to finish ranked annually… at the worst.

From a talent management perspective look to a Kyle Whittingham who has routinely beat teams who’ve had more talent than his. That’s what we need. Maximizing our resources.

Thing is, we have been talent deficient AND coaching deficient. Whittingham is a really good coach doing more with less.

The draft is evidence enough that we haven’t had elite talent. Better than most ACC? Sure. But we’ve also had garbage coaching outside of a few position coaches which puts the little talent we’ve had at a middle of the pack ACC team.

 

[Cash]

Both: 75% TVD and 25% Dawson

TVD had a special knack for not reading coverages correctly, particularly in the Red Zone. He inexplicably put the ball in harms way on the shortened field.

Dawson retreated from his creative playcalling shown against TA&M and failed to develop a sophisticated run game

I’m not sure there really is a sophisticated run game. You either fill your assignment or you don’t lol. Regardless of that, if you run the ball in the red zone constantly than you become 1 dimensional.

 

[Flynell7]

I’m kinda surprised by the amount of folks who believe we are talent deficient.

Are we top 3-5 in talent? No. You get to that level when do well or exceed expectations with the talent you have. We’ve had some holes but we perform no where near what we should.

I watch a good amount of college football and from a talent perspective I promise we consistently have enough talent to finish ranked annually… at the worst.

From a talent management perspective look to a Kyle Whittingham who has routinely beat teams who’ve had more talent than his. That’s what we need. Maximizing our resources.

There’s been enough talent to finish top 15 consistently. I’m willing to bet we’ve recruited better than Washington who just made the College football playoffs.

 

[skyman]

Wasn’t much different than the rest of the year, tamu loaded the box and left their corners on islands. Gtech and on teams started dropping 7 and 8 vs our 3man routes and tvd brain got fried and dawson never adjusted

If teams are dropping 8, why are we max protecting against a 3 man rush? Why does Dawson have to protect Mario oline sooo much? You got 8 covering 3 man routes, dam near everyone triple covered.. TVD gets ALL the blame but Dawson needs to be under microscope if he cant cook with ingredients he has been given this upcoming season.

 

[Cortez55403]

I’m not sure there really is a sophisticated run game. You either fill your assignment or you don’t lol. Regardless of that, if you run the ball in the red zone constantly than you become 1 dimensional.

Look to the 49er run game for sophistication. They often use a TE (George K) and an Hback (Kyle J) to disguise their play call…is it going to be a pass or run? They then have a versatile RB (Christian M) who is also an outstanding receiver. Again, is it a pass or a run? Lastly, they have a great WR (Deebo S) who is also a running threat. Again, is it a pass or a run?

The Cane running game shows near zero disguise or versatility. Our run formations were routine and we very rarely threw to our RBs. No disguises. No surprises.

Dawson needs to add some 49-like sophistication to our run game.

 

[KingB02]

1. Roster upgrade
2. Roster upgrade
3. Roster upgrade


Solves all those issues you have listed

C’mon dawg!! How many times are you going to spew this nonsense and make me have to continue to tell you we have been more talented than 90 percent of the teams we have played the last 20 years?!! It’s been coaching and development and culture that’s been killing us. Mario used the talent excuse for 2 years and blamed the players using smart phrasing like “talent acquisition” to say the guys here were JAGS when he also recruited most of them at Oregon before he left. No Mario! Your coaching needs to improve!! Hopefully it does because if it does not, other teams will have a field day snatching guys on our current roster!

 

[Dwinstitles]

C’mon dawg!! How many times are you going to spew this nonsense and make me have to continue to tell you we have been more talented than 90 percent of the teams we have played the last 20 years?!! It’s been coaching and development and culture that’s been killing us. Mario used the talent excuse for 2 years and blamed the players using smart phrasing like “talent acquisition” to say the guys here were JAGS when he also recruited most of them at Oregon before he left. No Mario! Your coaching needs to improve!! Hopefully it does because if it does not, other teams will have a field day snatching guys on our current roster!

Lets see how many agrees you get for this, cause if the development is the problem then we would see our players do more in the NFL when they get on a roster. If we took John Doe and he played linebacker here and we under developed him, and then he gets drafted and becomes a perennial pro bowler and that happens often I would agree. But IMO we max out guys here they just aren't good enough. Speed and explosive speed at every spot is what we lacked, Vernon was good here and he was the same player in the NFL for example. He aint some pro bowl type take over a game type but he was good just like he is in the NFL. Duke Johnson is the same player he was at UM. Who else? Greg and Jalen are the same guys they were here, the key was we identified and got them to sign. Its just that simple, if we got a 5 star WR and ran the ball 100% of the time then thats not developing your wrs.

 

[simplycanes]

1. Dawson. The big question with him is the unknown if he is capable of knowing how to maximize the talent upgrades with made and knowing how to get the most of of the pieces he's playing with. He was all over the map last year with some games he looked amazing and other where we just scratched our heads having flashbacks to Patrick Nix and Dan Enos. We never knew what we were going to get and our QB regressed under him immensely. Yes, it's easier to be good at your job when you have talent surrounding you but he can not be the weakest link on the offense. Only time will tell if he can show how to adjust mid game and consistently use creativity he flashed last night beyond the same 5 plays he ran.

2. Toughness. We got bullied by Greg Schiano and an average Rutgers team the last time we saw our team play. Please save us the "it was a meaningless bowl" as it's a deeper issue of culture then if that's the mentality the guys took. There needs to be a visible difference on the line of scrimmage when it comes to physicality on both sides of the ball with how well we've recruited there.

3. Inferior Teams. Something that we've struggled with for way too long is consistently dominating inferior teams primarily the ones in the ACC. Good teams put bad teams away and that is something that we need to see improvement with this year. The middle of the pack and bottom ACC teams can't have any business of hanging around in games well into the 4th quarter. Plenty of this is put on coaching which is already been put on notice. If we can bury teams early, it will be a sign of things getting better with the talent we've acquired.

All very fair, but regarding #1, I suspect Dawson will look a lot better by virtue of the QB change. Overall, Dawson and Mario still need to get on a much closer page about attacking defenses week-to-week, and be a lot more intentional on what that means schematically. So, the new QB1 won't fix everything for or about Dawson, but based on what I have seen, Ward excels in two areas where TVD really struggled-- taking the easy money and not quitting on plays. If your downfield reads are covered, it makes the OC's job a lot easier when the QB checks down and gets you a 2 and 5 vs. a 2 and 10 or 12. Everything with TVD was binary, he either made an NFL throw or a junior high decision, whereas Ward appears to process and react a lot better/faster.

 

[KingB02]

Lets see how many agrees you get for this, cause if the development is the problem then we would see our players do more in the NFL when they get on a roster. If we took John Doe and he played linebacker here and we under developed him, and then he gets drafted and becomes a perennial pro bowler and that happens often I would agree. But IMO we max out guys here they just aren't good enough. Speed and explosive speed at every spot is what we lacked, Vernon was good here and he was the same player in the NFL for example. He aint some pro bowl type take over a game type but he was good just like he is in the NFL. Duke Johnson is the same player he was at UM. Who else? Greg and Jalen are the same guys they were here, the key was we identified and got them to sign. Its just that simple, if we got a 5 star WR and ran the ball 100% of the time then thats not developing your wrs.

Bro your take is flawed! Think about it, how could a guy coast here and not lift as hard, run as hard, keep his head in the playbook and film room, and not practice hard for 4 or 5 years while his peers at other schools are doing all that to the best of their abilities and doing extra work outside of the facility.. etc.. how could you expect this kid to just get to the league and ball out?! That makes 0 sense! Some of these kids were ballers at every level of competition they played at, SINCE THEY WERE 5! They played varsity in the 8th grade! but when they get to UM they just think they made it and we had no one to get on their asses and tell them otherwise (). These kids had more structure in Optimus than here the last 20 years dawg! How could you expect them to snap out of the brain dead 5 years they spent here . That’s on the coaches we have had. If guys came here and everybody still had the mentality of the 2001 Canes, they would outwork EVERY other team in the nation and won games. And many would become pro bowlers because they worked hard in college to be the best!

 

[Empirical Cane]

I think an area of improvement is scoring.

IF our Miami Hurricanes can have more points by end of 4Q than opponents, I feel good that will lead to more dub-yous than what we've seen in the past.

This is a key metric that should not be overlooked.

 

[Empirical Cane]

1. Play better on offense.
2. Play better on defense.
3. Play better on special teams.

I dunno.

 

[Empirical Cane]

Everyone just caught on to our tendencies, thats why i keep saying tvd had nothing to do with dawson offense just not having many layers. It was the same at Houston

Still think its enough with cam tho

In defense of Dawson, TVD's flaws (lock on single receiver and interceptions) made Miami's offense consistently and predictably one dimensional.

 

[DTP]

Look to the 49er run game for sophistication. They often use a TE (George K) and an Hback (Kyle J) to disguise their play call…is it going to be a pass or run? They then have a versatile RB (Christian M) who is also an outstanding receiver. Again, is it a pass or a run? Lastly, they have a great WR (Deebo S) who is also a running threat. Again, is it a pass or a run?

The Cane running game shows near zero disguise or versatility. Our run formations were routine and we very rarely threw to our RBs. No disguises. No surprises.

Dawson needs to add some 49-like sophistication to our run game.

It’s much easier said than done. The NFL is a grown men’s league full of guys who are at least four years removed from high school. They don’t have limits on how many hours coaches can be around them or how long their practices or film sessions can be. NFL playbooks can be really huge because that’s literally the player’s only responsibility. In college football, you’re dealing with teenagers. You are drastically limited by the NCAA in how many hours per year you can actually coach your team. The players have to take full class loads and do well enough in school to stay eligible. Here’s the MOST important difference: Players in the NFL are MUCH better than college. The best college teams would get crushed by the worst NFL team. Just because a pro team can execute a certain play doesn’t mean a team with 1/10 the talent can.

I don’t like to use NFL comparisons because it’s a completely different game. I prefer to see what other college teams use and compare that to what we’re doing at Miami. There’s plenty of stuff at the college level that teams use that we don’t for whatever reasons.


Also, the 49ers averaged 140.5 yards rushing per game last year. The Miami Hurricanes averaged 173.2

 

[E1k]

In defense of Dawson, TVD's flaws (lock on single receiver and interceptions) made Miami's offense consistently and predictably one dimensional.

Not true. Dawson just didn’t have many dimensions and it was the same at Houston

 

[Dwinstitles]

Bro your take is flawed! Think about it, how could a guy coast here and not lift as hard, run as hard, keep his head in the playbook and film room, and not practice hard for 4 or 5 years while his peers at other schools are doing all that to the best of their abilities and doing extra work outside of the facility.. etc.. how could you expect this kid to just get to the league and ball out?! That makes 0 sense! Some of these kids were ballers at every level of competition they played at, SINCE THEY WERE 5! They played varsity in the 8th grade! but when they get to UM they just think they made it and we had no one to get on their asses and tell them otherwise (). These kids had more structure in Optimus than here the last 20 years dawg! How could you expect them to snap out of the brain dead 5 years they spent here . That’s on the coaches we have had. If guys came here and everybody still had the mentality of the 2001 Canes, they would outwork EVERY other team in the nation and won games. And many would become pro bowlers because they worked hard in college to be the best!

I have to get my coffee then I will reply to this lol. I see some good points though but I need that coffee.

 

[KingB02]

I have to get my coffee then I will reply to this lol. I see some good points though but I need that coffee.

Lmao