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I don’t mean it was overrated at the time. I mean it’s still overrated now.

We finished 17th in FPI that year. The 2005 team (which was viewed as a failure at the time) actually would have been 3.2 point favorites over the 2017 team, per their FPI ratings. (And the difference between 9-3 and 10-3 is because the 2017 team played an FCS team.)

Viewing the 2017 season as a success shows how low our standards are now. We think being the 17th best team is a good season, and that Manny’s 3 game winning streak is a big sign of hope.
 
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raincane said:
Do any of these things and it’s a successful season:

Win the coastal
Get double digit wins
NY6 appearance

In 2017 we did all three plus we beat FSU and routed Notre Dame. So yeah it was a great season for a bagless program like ours.
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Good lord. The 2007 season would qualify as a success under your criteria because we beat FSU. (And you said only one of the 3 criteria have to be met.)

In addition, winning the Coastal does not necessarily make a season a success. Unless you’d count a season as a success if we went 7-5 (5-3), and then lost both the ACCCG and the bowl game to finish 7-7.

A Big 6 bowl is a better criteria. But we only got invited to a Big Six Bowl because of the ridiculous ACC-Orange Bowl deal. Same reason Wake is seemingly headed to the Orange Bowl this year.

I think a true criteria for success is at least one of the following 3

1. A playoff appearance

2. A Big Six Bowl win

3. A top 10 finish
 
KevinCaneFace said:
“Our standards are low now”

What standards? We haven’t been crap in 20 years. 2017 was a bright spot in this bleak century. You’re dumb for trying to soil the best moment in 15 years
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I’m basically arguing that a relative bright spot in recent years actually isn’t much of a bright spot at all.
 
raincane said:
Do any of these things and it’s a successful season:

Win the coastal
Get double digit wins
NY6 appearance

In 2017 we did all three plus we beat FSU and routed Notre Dame. So yeah it was a great season for a bagless program like ours.
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2017 was super fun until the meltdown at the end, but lol @ “bagless”
 
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Sebastianbird said:
I’m basically arguing that a relative bright spot in recent years actually isn’t much of a bright spot at all.
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Yeah a season where we was literally 1 win away in the acc championship from going to the college playoffs was such a terrible season, whatever man... foh with that bullsh*t. No matter how it ended that still was the most fun season we have had since our last championship title
 
brock said:
Yeah a season where we was literally 1 win away in the acc championship from going to the playoffs was such a terrible season, whatever man, foh with that bulldh*t
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With the Pitt loss, we might not have made the playoffs even with a win over Clemson.

Anyway, we lost to Clemson 38-3. With a result like that, who cares if we were one game away from anything? It’s not like we lost 28-24, and we could say we might have made the playoffs if one play went differently.

And I never said 2017 was a terrible season. I’m saying that it was a meh season that only seems good compared to the seasons that came before and after it.
 
Sebastianbird said:
With the Pitt loss, we might not have made the playoffs even with a win over Clemson.

Anyway, we lost to Clemson 38-3. With a result like that, who cares if we were one game away from anything? It’s not like we lost 28-24, and we could say we might have made the playoffs if one play went differently.
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If Miami beat Clemson in 2017, the #1 team in the country at the time while we were ranked #7 we assuredly would have been in the playoffs Pitt loss or not. Sure we folded the end of the year but it still was Miami’s most relevant season in a long time in which we stayed in the top 10 for majority of the year
 
This jerk0ff is an obvious Nole troll. He must still be crying about 27-10. Don't worry OP...next year's asswhooping will be worse regardless of your weak *** troll attempts.
 
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2017 felt nice to the fan base, but was overrated. We got lucky (won 4 games by a td or less — fsu, gt, syr, nc), then got hit by pitt, embarrassed by clemson and lost bowl game.

A successful season at UM must be not less than the following: play for ACC title, finish top 10, win bowl, no more than 2 losses. Back when we were good, that would be mediocre and success would be playoffs+title game, period.
 
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