If you pay attention to hs football from around the country, then you'll notice that this has been in a trend in other states, as well. New Jersey has recently formed the BNC, which has a division called the BNU comprised of the top catholic schools that are now national power houses. A lot of their local public schools began to refuse to play those schools due to the unfair advantages of superior financial resources which have helped them acquire better facilities and equipment, money for coaching, and talent from other areas in NJ and NY, Conn and Philly. LA metro created the PAC5, which are the best private schools in the area with a few power house public schools like Long Beach Poly, Coronoa, and Mission Viejo. The area that I do know well is SoCal (specifically Los Angeles). I have family that have played and coached in that area, where I have seen them play, coach, went to clinics, and I still watch their local games on FoxSports. Other than Corona and Long Beach Poly, you don't really see a lot of talent in their public schools, anymore. Maryland does the same thing with the catholic league. Only Southern schools including Texas and Ohio are the only talented states that haven't switched to this kind of structure. I think there has been discussions of something like it in GA, though.
Good stuff. Regarding Texas, you're right...you don't have the catholic schools those other areas have, but you have seen the gradual dilution of big time city powerhouses because of the proliferation of powerhouse suburb schools. Look at Dallas. Previous powerhouses like Roosevelt (Kevin Williams, et al), Carter (Armstead, et al) are no longer. Instead, the kids are playing for schools in the burbs.
I see you AU, I see ya!
Part of me loves Texas HS football staying as "pure" as possible, but part of me would really love to see an STA, IMG, BTW type school here where the kids could bunch up and get a totally stacked roster. Southlake program with Desoto talent? ooooooweeeeee
i told you BTW isnt really like that. It shocked me to see kids from HOMESTEAD there the last two years...not sure what that was about...but those Homesteak kids are really the first kids i can remember transferring...IN..to Booker T. For the most part BTW is OVERTOWN kids....Swag were not talking about a Fresh Prince of Bell Air High School...Booker T is smack down in the worst part of MIAMI...by Far....in a tight community that doesnt really allow outsiders in not even kids from Liberty City.
IMG isnt even considered a Florida School...no one mentions them around here...and they got beat by American Heritage a south fla school this year.
Swag if there was only one school in that Liberty City-Overtown corridor....Sweet BABY JESUS....There probably wouldnt be a team in the country that would keep it within 2 scores....its that serious...and thats witht he current bums they have coaching in south florida.
I haveno clue how Central get killed by Dematha...and American Heritage technically on a down year lost to Dematha by missing a extra point or a fg or something like that... Central is a better team than Heritage. Heritage has like 4 legitimate offensive lineman total on their team..(granted 3 of them are div 1 level) but they did alright against the VAUNTED Dematha dline. And i do mean vaunted Dematha dline was beastly when i saw them against Central.
I think what a lot don't realize is that 2013 national championship was not the norm in hs football. Ice Harris ran Booker T, just like Rush Prost ran both Hoover and Colquitt County Hs, except with relatively meager resources. While some towns have middle school ball or optimist programs that send kids to one school, Ice turned the Overtown Rattlers into a legit developmental program. Those kids are ready to play by the time they get to booker t. That 2013 team was all overtown kids, except for Chad and I think another kid. They Beat 3 State champions (Norcross, Bishop Goreman, and Central) who were all top-25 teams. They also beat Uschool, Cocoa, and Bolles. Some of those games were blowouts. Look at all of the national champs, even from texas. Anyone can say to look at their talent, but look at the HSs in Texas. Whens the last time that a urban Texas team won a state title game? Desoto, Skyline, Alief Taylor, Cedar Hill and a bunch of others are always loaded but no titles. It's usually: Allen, Westlake, Lake Travis, SLC, or Katy.
If you pay attention to hs football from around the country, then you'll notice that this has been in a trend in other states, as well. New Jersey has recently formed the BNC, which has a division called the BNU comprised of the top catholic schools that are now national power houses. A lot of their local public schools began to refuse to play those schools due to the unfair advantages of superior financial resources which have helped them acquire better facilities and equipment, money for coaching, and talent from other areas in NJ and NY, Conn and Philly. LA metro created the PAC5, which are the best private schools in the area with a few power house public schools like Long Beach Poly, Coronoa, and Mission Viejo. The area that I do know well is SoCal (specifically Los Angeles). I have family that have played and coached in that area, where I have seen them play, coach, went to clinics, and I still watch their local games on FoxSports. Other than Corona and Long Beach Poly, you don't really see a lot of talent in their public schools, anymore. Maryland does the same thing with the catholic league. Only Southern schools including Texas and Ohio are the only talented states that haven't switched to this kind of structure. I think there has been discussions of something like it in GA, though.
Good stuff. Regarding Texas, you're right...you don't have the catholic schools those other areas have, but you have seen the gradual dilution of big time city powerhouses because of the proliferation of powerhouse suburb schools. Look at Dallas. Previous powerhouses like Roosevelt (Kevin Williams, et al), Carter (Armstead, et al) are no longer. Instead, the kids are playing for schools in the burbs.
I see you AU, I see ya!
Part of me loves Texas HS football staying as "pure" as possible, but part of me would really love to see an STA, IMG, BTW type school here where the kids could bunch up and get a totally stacked roster. Southlake program with Desoto talent? ooooooweeeeee
i told you BTW isnt really like that. It shocked me to see kids from HOMESTEAD there the last two years...not sure what that was about...but those Homesteak kids are really the first kids i can remember transferring...IN..to Booker T. For the most part BTW is OVERTOWN kids....Swag were not talking about a Fresh Prince of Bell Air High School...Booker T is smack down in the worst part of MIAMI...by Far....in a tight community that doesnt really allow outsiders in not even kids from Liberty City.
IMG isnt even considered a Florida School...no one mentions them around here...and they got beat by American Heritage a south fla school this year.
Swag if there was only one school in that Liberty City-Overtown corridor....Sweet BABY JESUS....There probably wouldnt be a team in the country that would keep it within 2 scores....its that serious...and thats witht he current bums they have coaching in south florida.
I haveno clue how Central get killed by Dematha...and American Heritage technically on a down year lost to Dematha by missing a extra point or a fg or something like that... Central is a better team than Heritage. Heritage has like 4 legitimate offensive lineman total on their team..(granted 3 of them are div 1 level) but they did alright against the VAUNTED Dematha dline. And i do mean vaunted Dematha dline was beastly when i saw them against Central.
The 2013 national championship was not the norm in hs football. Ice Harris ran Booker T, just like Rush Prost ran both Hoover and Colquitt County Hs, except with relatively meager resources. While some towns have middle school ball or optimist programs that send kids to one school, Ice turned the Overtown Rattlers into a legit developmental program. Those kids are ready to play by the time they get to booker t. That 2013 team was all overtown kids, except for Chad and I think another kid. They Beat 3 State champions (Norcross, Bishop Goreman, and Central) who were all top-25 teams. They also beat Uschool, Cocoa, and Bolles. Some of those games were blowouts. Look at all of the national champs, even from texas. Anyone can say to look at their talent, but look at the HSs in Texas. Whens the last time that a urban Texas team won a state title game? Desoto, Skyline, Alief Taylor, Cedar Hill and a bunch of others are always loaded but no titles. It's usually: Allen, Westlake, Lake Travis, SLC, or Katy.
Good stuff. Regarding Texas, you're right...you don't have the catholic schools those other areas have, but you have seen the gradual dilution of big time city powerhouses because of the proliferation of powerhouse suburb schools. Look at Dallas. Previous powerhouses like Roosevelt (Kevin Williams, et al), Carter (Armstead, et al) are no longer. Instead, the kids are playing for schools in the burbs.
I see you AU, I see ya!
Part of me loves Texas HS football staying as "pure" as possible, but part of me would really love to see an STA, IMG, BTW type school here where the kids could bunch up and get a totally stacked roster. Southlake program with Desoto talent? ooooooweeeeee
i told you BTW isnt really like that. It shocked me to see kids from HOMESTEAD there the last two years...not sure what that was about...but those Homesteak kids are really the first kids i can remember transferring...IN..to Booker T. For the most part BTW is OVERTOWN kids....Swag were not talking about a Fresh Prince of Bell Air High School...Booker T is smack down in the worst part of MIAMI...by Far....in a tight community that doesnt really allow outsiders in not even kids from Liberty City.
IMG isnt even considered a Florida School...no one mentions them around here...and they got beat by American Heritage a south fla school this year.
Swag if there was only one school in that Liberty City-Overtown corridor....Sweet BABY JESUS....There probably wouldnt be a team in the country that would keep it within 2 scores....its that serious...and thats witht he current bums they have coaching in south florida.
I haveno clue how Central get killed by Dematha...and American Heritage technically on a down year lost to Dematha by missing a extra point or a fg or something like that... Central is a better team than Heritage. Heritage has like 4 legitimate offensive lineman total on their team..(granted 3 of them are div 1 level) but they did alright against the VAUNTED Dematha dline. And i do mean vaunted Dematha dline was beastly when i saw them against Central.
The 2013 national championship was not the norm in hs football. Ice Harris ran Booker T, just like Rush Prost ran both Hoover and Colquitt County Hs, except with relatively meager resources. While some towns have middle school ball or optimist programs that send kids to one school, Ice turned the Overtown Rattlers into a legit developmental program. Those kids are ready to play by the time they get to booker t. That 2013 team was all overtown kids, except for Chad and I think another kid. They Beat 3 State champions (Norcross, Bishop Goreman, and Central) who were all top-25 teams. They also beat Uschool, Cocoa, and Bolles. Some of those games were blowouts. Look at all of the national champs, even from texas. Anyone can say to look at their talent, but look at the HSs in Texas. Whens the last time that a urban Texas team won a state title game? Desoto, Skyline, Alief Taylor, Cedar Hill and a bunch of others are always loaded but no titles. It's usually: Allen, Westlake, Lake Travis, SLC, or Katy.
Huh? Cedar Hill has won 2 of the last 3 and played in 3 of the last 4.
Good stuff. Regarding Texas, you're right...you don't have the catholic schools those other areas have, but you have seen the gradual dilution of big time city powerhouses because of the proliferation of powerhouse suburb schools. Look at Dallas. Previous powerhouses like Roosevelt (Kevin Williams, et al), Carter (Armstead, et al) are no longer. Instead, the kids are playing for schools in the burbs.
I see you AU, I see ya!
Part of me loves Texas HS football staying as "pure" as possible, but part of me would really love to see an STA, IMG, BTW type school here where the kids could bunch up and get a totally stacked roster. Southlake program with Desoto talent? ooooooweeeeee
i told you BTW isnt really like that. It shocked me to see kids from HOMESTEAD there the last two years...not sure what that was about...but those Homesteak kids are really the first kids i can remember transferring...IN..to Booker T. For the most part BTW is OVERTOWN kids....Swag were not talking about a Fresh Prince of Bell Air High School...Booker T is smack down in the worst part of MIAMI...by Far....in a tight community that doesnt really allow outsiders in not even kids from Liberty City.
IMG isnt even considered a Florida School...no one mentions them around here...and they got beat by American Heritage a south fla school this year.
Swag if there was only one school in that Liberty City-Overtown corridor....Sweet BABY JESUS....There probably wouldnt be a team in the country that would keep it within 2 scores....its that serious...and thats witht he current bums they have coaching in south florida.
I haveno clue how Central get killed by Dematha...and American Heritage technically on a down year lost to Dematha by missing a extra point or a fg or something like that... Central is a better team than Heritage. Heritage has like 4 legitimate offensive lineman total on their team..(granted 3 of them are div 1 level) but they did alright against the VAUNTED Dematha dline. And i do mean vaunted Dematha dline was beastly when i saw them against Central.
I think what a lot don't realize is that 2013 national championship was not the norm in hs football. Ice Harris ran Booker T, just like Rush Prost ran both Hoover and Colquitt County Hs, except with relatively meager resources. While some towns have middle school ball or optimist programs that send kids to one school, Ice turned the Overtown Rattlers into a legit developmental program. Those kids are ready to play by the time they get to booker t. That 2013 team was all overtown kids, except for Chad and I think another kid. They Beat 3 State champions (Norcross, Bishop Goreman, and Central) who were all top-25 teams. They also beat Uschool, Cocoa, and Bolles. Some of those games were blowouts. Look at all of the national champs, even from texas. Anyone can say to look at their talent, but look at the HSs in Texas. Whens the last time that a urban Texas team won a state title game? Desoto, Skyline, Alief Taylor, Cedar Hill and a bunch of others are always loaded but no titles. It's usually: Allen, Westlake, Lake Travis, SLC, or Katy.
Chad moved to overtown, so he still counts
Edit: Nvm no he didn't
He's exactly like Hamilton.
If Hamilton had offers from every major program in the **** country.
This^^^^^
But the porsters on this board gotta see lots of "stars" and "offers" before they believe. Never mind that the greatest WR in the history of football (Jerry Rice) played football at a division II school and wasn't heavily recruited. J.J. Watts wasn't either. Or Ray Lewis, or Ed Reed, or Reggie Wayne, etc.. I can list many more greats that weren't heavily recruited or with lots of stars.
The argument that "that was before recruiting sites took off" is bullshyt. Great talent evaluators find great talent and can develop it with a good coaching staff in any era.
I see you AU, I see ya!
Part of me loves Texas HS football staying as "pure" as possible, but part of me would really love to see an STA, IMG, BTW type school here where the kids could bunch up and get a totally stacked roster. Southlake program with Desoto talent? ooooooweeeeee
i told you BTW isnt really like that. It shocked me to see kids from HOMESTEAD there the last two years...not sure what that was about...but those Homesteak kids are really the first kids i can remember transferring...IN..to Booker T. For the most part BTW is OVERTOWN kids....Swag were not talking about a Fresh Prince of Bell Air High School...Booker T is smack down in the worst part of MIAMI...by Far....in a tight community that doesnt really allow outsiders in not even kids from Liberty City.
IMG isnt even considered a Florida School...no one mentions them around here...and they got beat by American Heritage a south fla school this year.
Swag if there was only one school in that Liberty City-Overtown corridor....Sweet BABY JESUS....There probably wouldnt be a team in the country that would keep it within 2 scores....its that serious...and thats witht he current bums they have coaching in south florida.
I haveno clue how Central get killed by Dematha...and American Heritage technically on a down year lost to Dematha by missing a extra point or a fg or something like that... Central is a better team than Heritage. Heritage has like 4 legitimate offensive lineman total on their team..(granted 3 of them are div 1 level) but they did alright against the VAUNTED Dematha dline. And i do mean vaunted Dematha dline was beastly when i saw them against Central.
I think what a lot don't realize is that 2013 national championship was not the norm in hs football. Ice Harris ran Booker T, just like Rush Prost ran both Hoover and Colquitt County Hs, except with relatively meager resources. While some towns have middle school ball or optimist programs that send kids to one school, Ice turned the Overtown Rattlers into a legit developmental program. Those kids are ready to play by the time they get to booker t. That 2013 team was all overtown kids, except for Chad and I think another kid. They Beat 3 State champions (Norcross, Bishop Goreman, and Central) who were all top-25 teams. They also beat Uschool, Cocoa, and Bolles. Some of those games were blowouts. Look at all of the national champs, even from texas. Anyone can say to look at their talent, but look at the HSs in Texas. Whens the last time that a urban Texas team won a state title game? Desoto, Skyline, Alief Taylor, Cedar Hill and a bunch of others are always loaded but no titles. It's usually: Allen, Westlake, Lake Travis, SLC, or Katy.
Chad moved to overtown, so he still counts
Edit: Nvm no he didn't
Chad from Liberty City. But i think he always played at BTW. Because he went to the school of arts or whatever for music and had BTW as his home school. Chad really should of went to NW.
Yea like i said...like Calloway and them going to BTW...it was a shock to me i dont know if they had a coach on staff that moved from homestead or something...but BTW is mostly home grown...Overtown Rattler are the feeder optomist program.....
When Brandon Harris and them were playing for BTW and UM..Treon was playing qb for Overtown...and almost all the kids you see from BTW were on those rattlers teams.
People from Miami know what really goes on with Booker T and Overtown. Thats why i always respect Ice Harris for building that program.
You know the area. Eddie Goldman came from one of those schools, maybe Good Counsel??? I remember Gonzaga in D.C., as another Catholic League school. The Under Armour guy is now pumping money into Maryland's football program, trying to build it up.Dont do that. Sta isnt a flash in the pan brah....Their over 30+ years of domination.
There's not much schools in comp with them in the country...
Dematha is a power house program....but this aint new with what sta has been doing...that catholic league up there is known for bball.
I don't recall STA being a power in the late 80s/early 90s when I started following recruiting. Maybe I am mistaken.
And you're right, dematha is mostly known for BBall but they've been winning in football since the 60s. Lol
Their winning in an area where football isnt a priority.
STA has been winning since the 70's in the MECCA of High School Football....
Realize Dillard High School is right down the street from STA.....and Dillard has had a run at different times since the 80's.
I hate that i even have to vouch for sta...because the whole BROWARD county hate them..lol....So happy that my neighborhood Miramar teams handled them for a few years.
The scene has changed a bit up there. Before, you would see more prospects from the state publics, but now there seems to be a similar talent shift as what we've seen in Broward (Very top heavy, except it's all in the catholic league). If you followed football outside of SFL, then you have likely heard about schools like Dematha, Good Counsel, Gilman, and St. Johns (their biggest donor is the guy who own Under Armour). Until now, I haven't seen any of those schools loaded up with 4/5-star prospects like we're now seeing with Dematha. Their Dline has 2-5 stars and 1-4 star with offers from everywhere. Good Counsel had 1 year where they were loaded, but not like this.