2016 Carol City WR Steven Newbold Junior Highlights

[HurricaneUWW]

Imo the only chance he has of an offer is to earn it at camp. I just don't trust this staff to offer him from any other sort of evaluation, sadly...

 

[Geo305]

I think he's an easy eval and take. But fivecent is right, he is nowhere near as explosive as a Stacy Coley, Antonio Brown or Dionte Mullins. Johnnie Dixon or a better Antonio Callaway seem like the right comparison to me. But a Reggie Wayne can be just as valuable as an Andre Johnson so, again, an easy take. Should be offered immediately.

I must disagree on the part of Antonio Brown.

Brown not necessarily as explosive or as fast as the other two(Mullins, Coley) but what he has is all the little things, the hands, concentration, vision. Brown runs a 4.5-4.6 believe it or not. It's all the things together that make him what he is. It's no knock at all cause receiver is not all about the fastest, strongest, athletic or most explosive. Brown is incredible due to his skillset.

Mullins is an athletic freak with speed and physical in his game.

Coley is elite speed and burner with smoothness in his game. (Despite the sophomore slump he is a extremely talented kid)


I look at Brown as a tactician. He kills you with his awareness, foot placement, hands, ability to go over the middle or making a tough catch. And what stands out most, he's a quarterbacks bestfriend with the catches he's capable of. The toe drags, back of the endzone. Brown is an elite return man though. Browns not the biggest guy or most physically built but it's the things he does and he's capable of.


I see a lot of similarity between Newbold and Brown. I'm not sure what Newbold runs, he's got speed but it's obvious he doesn't run a 4.3, that's not as common as people think it is. You can see the difference from a 4.3 compared to the 4.4-4.6's. I'm guessing Steve runs a 4.5 range maybe a high 4.4


What people forget about Reggie Wayne. Reggie ran a 4.4 coming out of the U believe it or not. Lot faster than people think.


Newbold should be in the class no doubt in my mind, and if he isn't I'm very positive it will be talked about 3-4 years later about how we let him get away while he's blowing up for another school.

 

[plantcity3]

Sorta off topic but its about football in Carol City.

Yesterday my little league team played the 14U Miami Garden Chiefs in the Dolphins Championship Series down in Miramar. We were slaughtered. The score was 33-0 going in the 2nd quarter. Score ended up being 40-0.

If anyone is familiar with LL football then you would know the MFFC (Mid Florida Football Conference) is full of talented football teams with over 40 organizations. My team won the superbowl on the varsity level which is a big accomplishment in this league. Miami Gardens had an all star (best players from different teams) team no doubt in my mind, but just looking at all the talent they had got me wondering on the way home. How the **** could anyone ***** recruiting up your own backyard with so much talent. My team is well coached, disciplined, and wont lay down but these S. Fla teams I seen yesterday were on another level. All of these kids were advanced way past their ages. From route running, vision and cutback abilities, to even disguising their coverage. Miami Gardens had a play with a wheel route combination. They were running it to perfection with slot rubbing off the outside wr. We tried to hi-low, and pass off to no avail. Torre Cox, who played DB for the Bucs, has a son (10) who plays for Mia Gardens. Kid is as real s it comes and I would offer him as soon as he steps foot in a HS program. No doubt, its a different breed down their. Talking to one if the parents about why these S. Fla teams are on a whole different level, I was told that people down their see football as a way out. Its survival, and you turn into a savage when you desperate and trying to survive. While most kids in other areas treat football as something to do or as a hobby, they treat football as if their mom is being held hostage and will get killed if they lose. Yes, all this came straight out a parents mouth.

As we were getting our **** pushed in, my mind begin to wonder, why does Golden not have anyone out here at these games. I know it is little league, but I think the program would only benefit from sending scouts to these games. 1. Its gives you a headstart on all of the local talent. 2. It gives you a presence in the community.

The teams from S. Fla that were there was the Miramar Wolverines 8U, Miami Gardens Chiefs 14U, Miami Gardens Ravens 9U 10U and 12U, NMB Sundevils 12U, and Plantation Wildcats 9U and 12U. Every single one of these teams were loaded. Ignoring the fact that some of these teams used all stars, they had talent everywhere. The talent coming through the HS I that area will not die anytime soon. That makes it even more important that we get someone who will lock down S. Fla. These kids are hungry and talented.

 

[plantcity3]

I dont know the Miami area to well but how close is Miami Gardens to Carol City? The team was called Miami Gardens Chiefs, but the majority of the parents were from Carol City, and wore CC Chiefs shirts. Like I said, I know they were using all star teams, but is it common for CC players to be playing im Miami Gardens? Does CC not have a little league?

 

[Canes_U_Pride]

I think he's an easy eval and take. But fivecent is right, he is nowhere near as explosive as a Stacy Coley, Antonio Brown or Dionte Mullins. Johnnie Dixon or a better Antonio Callaway seem like the right comparison to me. But a Reggie Wayne can be just as valuable as an Andre Johnson so, again, an easy take. Should be offered immediately.

I must disagree on the part of Antonio Brown.

Brown not necessarily as explosive or as fast as the other two(Mullins, Coley) but what he has is all the little things, the hands, concentration, vision. Brown runs a 4.5-4.6 believe it or not. It's all the things together that make him what he is. It's no knock at all cause receiver is not all about the fastest, strongest, athletic or most explosive. Brown is incredible due to his skillset.

Mullins is an athletic freak with speed and physical in his game.

Coley is elite speed and burner with smoothness in his game. (Despite the sophomore slump he is a extremely talented kid)


I look at Brown as a tactician. He kills you with his awareness, foot placement, hands, ability to go over the middle or making a tough catch. And what stands out most, he's a quarterbacks bestfriend with the catches he's capable of. The toe drags, back of the endzone. Brown is an elite return man though. Browns not the biggest guy or most physically built but it's the things he does and he's capable of.


I see a lot of similarity between Newbold and Brown. I'm not sure what Newbold runs, he's got speed but it's obvious he doesn't run a 4.3, that's not as common as people think it is. You can see the difference from a 4.3 compared to the 4.4-4.6's. I'm guessing Steve runs a 4.5 range maybe a high 4.4


What people forget about Reggie Wayne. Reggie ran a 4.4 coming out of the U believe it or not. Lot faster than people think.


Newbold should be in the class no doubt in my mind, and if he isn't I'm very positive it will be talked about 3-4 years later about how we let him get away while he's blowing up for another school.

I will get the exact number but steve has done an average of mid 4.5 40s. I do agree with your assessment Geo and will say that what ever he lacks in any one area he more than makes up for it with how he ties everything together. I feel like allen hurns will always be underrated, he played with stemo and jacory harris two non nfl arms and did work, i also feel like his absence also contributed to coleys slump. Kids like steve make teams better by being sure handed and keeping drives alive and making it impossible to key in on other talents on the team. Single coverage helps everyone in a offense.

 

[Geo305]

plant I'm not too connected into the little leagues. But that Miami Gardens 14U Chiefs team you are speaking of is the Carol City 14U Chiefs if I am correct.

Miami Gardens and Carol City is all the same area.

 

[Canes_U_Pride]

plant I'm not too connected into the little leagues. But that Miami Gardens 14U Chiefs team you are speaking of is the Carol City 14U Chiefs if I am correct.

Miami Gardens and Carol City is all the same area.

Yea its miami gardens now it got incorporated not too long ago and they changed the name from carol city to miami gardens same streets same schools same families.

 

[MdCanesFan]

I promise you I'm not trying to go against every mod cause I think Geo gives us real insight but you couldn't be more wrong saying A.Brown isn't as explosive as 2 kids basically..

dude consistently beats NFL double teams with his explosion in and out of routes. Now if you're talking about straight line clock speed I apologize for wasting my breath, but regardless this guy (Newbold) is a baller. Powerful runner after catch and strong hands

Never seen Anquans HS hilights, which I assume are ridiculous, but Anquan Jr.

 

[plantcity3]

O ok. You guys remember the name Nayauan Wright. He was number 5. Kid is a stud and already looks like he is a sophomore in HS.

Also is James Cook III related to Dalvin Cook. He also wore 4

 

[Geo305]

O ok. You guys remember the name Nayauan Wright. He was number 5. Kid is a stud and already looks like he is a sophomore in HS.

Also is James Cook III related to Dalvin Cook. He also wore 4

James Cook is Dalvin's little brother.

And I have both James and Nayquan in the database for 2019. Apparently those two have been killing it the past 3 years. I swear if they do end up at Carol City.... OMG what could be.

 

[Geo305]

I promise you I'm not trying to go against every mod cause I think Geo gives us real insight but you couldn't be more wrong saying A.Brown isn't as explosive as 2 kids basically..

dude consistently beats NFL double teams with his explosion in and out of routes. Now if you're talking about straight line clock speed I apologize for wasting my breath, but regardless this guy (Newbold) is a baller. Powerful runner after catch and strong hands

Never seen Anquans HS hilights, which I assume are ridiculous, but Anquan Jr.

Brown runs great routes but in a straight line race against Coley and Mullins, Brown will lose. Which is no knock at all. Football is way more than just straight line speed. It's all the little things Brown does that makes him phenomenal, which is what I see in Newbold.

In terms of explosiveness I thought maybe you meant by how fast and strong in a combination. Like real elite explosiveness is a guy like Sammy Watkins, Andre Johnson or Calvin Johnson.

I'll give a good example. I think Amari Cooper is just as good as Sammy was, but Sammy is clearly the more explosive guy.

But that's not everything though. Many things come into play. Amari Cooper has a great skillset that puts him on par with Sammy.



And as for Anquan, I'm guessing you mean Anquan Boldin? Him and Newbold play nothing alike and are nowhere near the same size.


Many things come into play in football more than just explosion. You can be the fastest or strongest guy but if you can't catch, block, or throw. Catch my drift?

Ed Reed wasn't the most physical, explosive guy. But that guy was a phenomenal safety cause of his awareness, football iq and his vision of the field and ability to be in the right place to make a play.

 

[plantcity3]

Both of them are studs. Cook is smooth and Wright is well put together. He reminds me of Kevin Taylor's son in high school but faster.

 

[Geo305]

Then their is the exceptions like freaks like Sean Taylor who don't come around often as people think.

Sean was extremely athletically gifted but what made him even better was that he had the skillset to go with it too.

Remember the saying look like Tarzan, play like Jane? Not all the most explosive athletes or strongest players are the best players.

Which is why even in the nfl today guys who slip through the cracks in the draft late or even in college recruitment just blow up.

Theirs football players and then theirs Physically gifted.


If that physically gifted guy can develop into a football player... I'm all for it. You get the best of both worlds if that is the case.


Jimmy Graham for example. He developed into a **** of a football player, the measurables were all there.

 

[F-MarioCristobal]

Kid has the intangibles you have to have and still has solid speed and everything to go with it. Every team needs a guy like this and like someone above said it does make everyone on the team better. Miami didn't have that guy this year (like Hurns) that you look to on 3rd down to extend drives. I'm from the same town as Jason Witten of the cowboys and he has a camp here every year and those are the types of players he loves. Even though its a different position, Witten is one of the slowest guys in the NFL, but he does all the little things right and is just a football player, you can't teach that.