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2 takeaways from Cotton Bowl

valid said:
bammer played **** near perfect and it will be impossible for them to match that level of play next week. Clemson will hit them with some unconventional offense and speed at the skill positions. espn will be in tears once their baby bammer goes down in flames after coming oh so close.
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I think Bama Wins. Since that lost to Ole Miss they've been playing at a very high level .
 
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Alabama dominates in the trenches to a degree that suggests they cheat. Maybe its great recruiting and player development or just maybe they are juicing. The relative lack of dominance int the NFL of Alabama players suggests that with aggressive PED testing they just dont seem that good. There is always that question
 
sabrose said:
Alabama dominates in the trenches to a degree that suggests they cheat. Maybe its great recruiting and player development or just maybe they are juicing. The relative lack of dominance int the NFL of Alabama players suggests that with aggressive PED testing they just dont seem that good. There is always that question
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Deer antler spray.
 
Bama is going to win the whole thing. Big, strong, fast and well coached southern savages don't lose. Jake Coker has done well the second half of the season which was their weakness earlier in the year.
 
If I have to hear another ESPN talking head say "Clemson is like an SEC team in the ACC" again I'll flip my ****. Said the same thing about FSU 2 years ago. Hey douche bags.....not all good teams must reside in the $EC.
 
Big Sky Cane said:
If I have to hear another ESPN talking head say "Clemson is like an SEC team in the ACC" again I'll flip my ****. Said the same thing about FSU 2 years ago. Hey douche bags.....not all good teams must reside in the $EC.
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It's one of the few things I cannot keep my mouth shut on is when someone says a team is like an SEC team or that is an SEC type team simply because the team was good. I'll throw that **** back at them real quick and point out how bad the rest of the SEC is this year. I don't hear them saying that **** when Vanderbilt or Kentucky or anyone else get walloped outside of the SEC.

I'm quick to point out how Missouri and TA&M were giving the SEC elites a run for their money when they came over from the Big 12. They don't just magically become better teams because they changed conferences. If anything, those 2 teams have both gotten worse since joining the SEC.
 
They actually tout that committee, the ones who pick the four teams. Network analysts are allowed to visit briefly. They invariably report on how sophisticated it is, how impressive. Meanwhile, I'd like to bet the phrase "pass defense" doesn't show up all season in those meetings. Not once. Strength of schedule is an invention of idiots and applied by morons. It requires literally zero insight or ability. That's why it is a perfect vehicle for this young brainwashed generation. People who grew up in the horse racing generations experienced the dilemmas every day, the horse emerging from a Grade 1 race competing against horses who had raced in upper tier allowance races. Company kept or company vanquished is merely one criteria, and hardly the dominant one, as often as not. This young football generation doesn't look for hidden but devastating variables like pass defense because they have been taught that strength of schedule is all that really matters. So sad.

When you allow entry to a team that gives up 7.2 yards per pass attempt like Michigan State, you are asking for a result like this. As I posted last night on a Dolphins forum, it was like a mini bye for Alabama. I know I mentioned that 7.2 here several weeks ago. It made for an easy wager but otherwise it's a disgusting development for college football. That Ohio State/Michigan State outcome a month ago ruined the postseason, especially once the pathetic pass defense team drew Alabama for opponent. Michigan State 2015 plays well off the line of scrimmage to allow easy underneath completions, but they combine that with horrid deep coverage. Quite a menu. And this is with a very good front line. Imagine how inept that pass defense would be with a mediocre front wall. Scary.

Last season Florida State was allowing more than 7 yards per attempt. They were assassinated by Oregon. And the trend will continue as long as that committee is dense enough to look away. Anyone who votes for a terrible pass defense team as member of the final four should be charged with multiple felonies. Once again the national champ will be among the best in pass defense. Clemson and Alabama each allow less than 6 yards per attempt.

Oklahoma did also. I didn't bet that game but I rooted for Clemson, not only to support the ACC but mostly to deny the Big 12. That conference is such a shell game it doesn't deserve any praise or a spot in the final four, let alone the final two. The Sooners made a dramatic rise in pass defense and overall defense this year, which was plenty in a conference that otherwise doesn't pretend to play defense at all but they were worn down and exposed today. I had my doubts about Oklahoma given the degree that Tennessee toyed with them for three quarters. That margin should have been far beyond 17-0 before the Vols initiated the choke.

I'm sure lots of Canes fans rooted for Michigan State in that game at Columbus, still fretting our Fiesta Bowl outcome. Meanwhile, this Saban era has every potential to dwarf anything the Canes accomplished in the '80s and beyond. This can be 4 titles in 7 years. He hasn't lost in the final game, like Miami so often. There are no tendencies to not score many points in bowl games, like the Canes beginning in 1985. In short, that's why I root against Alabama every year. This is another season in which they are going to be excused a home defeat en route to the title game. The Canes never benefited from that but for Alabama and particularly under Saban it has become one of the great traditions in college football, right up there with Traveler at the Coliseum. As I posted at the time, that Mississippi victory was a monumental fluke, accomplished via weird deflections and turnovers and unlikely big plays that succeeded by an eyelash. If you lined up those teams the very next day I would have been confident in Alabama by double digits.

I'll root for Clemson. They have enough permutations to give the Tide some trouble. But Alabama very seldom loses when its defense is of this caliber. The key numbers all year have been dramatically improved from the subpar units of 2013 and 2014. I suspect we'll see a considerably more Derrick Henry game plan this time, running smack at Clemson to break their will and assert the physical pecking order.

This matchup is the opposite of SEC vs. ACC title game two seasons ago, when the ACC team owned the superior defense.
 
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TC7D said:
ball915 said:
TC7D said:
Michigan State has no business being in this game. I knew their [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=3]#3 [/URL] ranking was a joke and just an easy way for the committee to get Bama in the finals.
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have said this from Day 1. ESPN is terrified of what happened last year with the SEC being beaten in semis. Tack on OU destroying Bama two years ago and they wanted the clearest path for the SEC in the finals. Vegas validates the point.

The 1 seed was a 4 point underdog to the 4 seed. The 2 seed was a 9.5 favorite over the 3 seed. If Clemson played Michigan State, would Michigan State really of been a 4 point favorite? Then would Alabama been a 9.5 favorite over Oklahoma? Don't think so.......
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Agree with everything you said. It was clear to anyone that follows college football that Oklahoma is better than Michigan State, yet MSU is #3 ? I thought the committee was supposed to prevent this nonsense. More of the same.
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The only job of the committee is to ensure the 4 biggest fanbases get into the playoff. Period.
 
sabrose said:
Alabama dominates in the trenches to a degree that suggests they cheat. Maybe its great recruiting and player development or just maybe they are juicing. The relative lack of dominance int the NFL of Alabama players suggests that with aggressive PED testing they just dont seem that good. There is always that question
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plz they're clearly juicing
 
sabrose said:
Alabama dominates in the trenches to a degree that suggests they cheat. Maybe its great recruiting and player development or just maybe they are juicing. The relative lack of dominance int the NFL of Alabama players suggests that with aggressive PED testing they just dont seem that good. There is always that question
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Well they are allowed to have as many coaches as they want.
Everyone else is limited to nine.
That's one way they blatantly cheat.
 
jackedaround said:
You guys are soft. Stop talking about this on the canes forum. Both these trams can eat a ****. Go canes.
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uh ok, except the canes season is over and this is after all an actual college football forum

god forbid we actually talk about college football
 
Think Clemson takes this. What decent quarterback has Alabama beaten? Clemson has the horses to stop Henry and you make Coker beat you..
 
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I hate Alabama and especially Nick Saban.
But there is nothing in this world that will allow me to root for Clemson. If you lived here you would understand. I doubt most of you Clemson slurpers (I learned that phrase here BTW) have any idea the rivalry between SC and Clemson. You pick one and hate the other. Thats how it works in SC. I picked SC when I moved here. Dolphins-Canes-Gamecocks.
Clemson and Dabo Weenie hopefully get destroyed by the silly tide.
 
Spindrift said:
I hate Alabama and especially Nick Saban.
But there is nothing in this world that will allow me to root for Clemson. If you lived here you would understand. I doubt most of you Clemson slurpers (I learned that phrase here BTW) have any idea the rivalry between SC and Clemson. You pick one and hate the other. Thats how it works in SC. I picked SC when I moved here. Dolphins-Canes-Gamecocks.
Clemson and Dabo Weenie hopefully get destroyed by the silly tide.
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You think we give a **** about the Clemson vs SC rivalry and which side you picked?

I'm not running around the neighborhood chanting ACC and I certainly wasn't rooting for FSU against Auburn, but I'm not rooting for more SEC "slurping" when Alabama is playing Clemson and all ESPN broadcasts are an SEC lovefest.
 
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