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2 of 4 are set.

The comittee put a 1 loss OSU in the playoffs over a 2 loss PSU Big 10 champs last year.... Does it look like a situation you know?

IMO, they cant put Bama and the SEC champs in but you never you!
 
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kryptonite said:
So everybody thinks bama is #1 right now, but one loss to #6 and they aren't in the top 4? They fall behind at least one 2 loss team? That seems farfetched, and frankly wrong. I'm not saying bama's the greatest, but if the committee thinks they're #1 now, what's the rationale for dropping them out of the top 4? Personally, I think the best 4 teams should get in even if they aren't conference champs. Why put a crap team in because they're conference champ? Miami could have lost to fsu, nd, and another team and beaten Clemson out for the ACC championship. Would that team deserve to make the playoff? And would your answer change if a 3 loss uf beat bama to "win" the sec?
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Bama schedule and wins = do do!! Boom
 
canesbaby said:
Firesite said:
If Clemson loses tonight we are ****ed.
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I actually think the opposite. If Clemson loses tonight, there is an argument to only move us down to 4. OU 1, Auburn 2, Wisky 3 and then who else? Unless I’m completely missing something, we would have at least a reasonable argument to remain at 4 over Bama. Then it’s win and you’re in next week.
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I understand your thinking, but trust me we want Clemson to win tonight.
 
Ispyin said:
canes1fan said:
Wisconsin is going to beat osu
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The 538 simulator says that’s a worse outcome for Miami, we are better off ironically if Ohio State wins by about 10 percentage points if I recall
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Miami goes from 69 to 77 but Alabama goes from 39 to 50. I’d rather have Wisconsin and Bama at 39 then take OSU and have Bama at 50%. Miami has to win first so all the permutations are moot.
 
1 Loss ACC Champion is not getting left out under ANY scenario.

Miami's SOS according to Sagarin is competitive with any team in the Top 10 outside of Notre Dame or Clemson.

Alabama should NOT make it into the CFB Playoffs under any circumstance. Their SOS is pretty horrible (worse then Wisconsin, true story) and not being in a conference championship game, nevermind not being a conference champion means they 100% SHOULD (not saying they are, but they SHOULD be out). There is nothing about their resume that is impressive at all. Their best win came against LSU. 8-4 Miss State and 8-4 Fresno State their next best wins. I'm sorry, but that is not a team that should be gifted into the CFB Playoffs when they aren't playing in their conference championship game.

SEC will (should) only get ONE team into the CFB Playoffs and it will be (should be) the winner of the Conference Championship Game.

SEC Winner, ACC Winner (1 loss)

...then it comes down to Oklahoma winning the Big XII...win and they are in, lose and it opens up a wild card.

...then it comes down to the winner of the B1G Championship Game...if its Wisconsin, they are an easy addition to the playoff. If Ohio State wins, they are in, but this could be a really gross CFB Playoff with potentially TWO, 2-loss teams in the playoffs (Ohio State and Auburn). If Ohio State wins, I believe Wisconsin SHOULD be in the wild card mix by proxy of their great year.

In any scenario, I think Wisconsin is a more deserving candidate into the CFB Playoffs as a 1-loss non-Conference Champion then Alabama.

In the background, its kind of **** that UCF won't get a chance under any scenario. They should be the stock #4 seed if they beat Memphis next week provided Wisconsin loses to Ohio State...ACC Champ, SEC Champ, Oklahoma, UCF (more deserving then 2-loss Ohio State and 1-loss Alabama), IMO, would be the right way to do this depending on if Oklahoma wins their Championship game, but they will force some buffoonery in there.
 
ThomasM said:
kryptonite said:
So everybody thinks bama is [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 [/URL] right now, but one loss to #6 and they aren't in the top 4? They fall behind at least one 2 loss team? That seems farfetched, and frankly wrong. I'm not saying bama's the greatest, but if the committee thinks they're [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 [/URL] now, what's the rationale for dropping them out of the top 4? Personally, I think the best 4 teams should get in even if they aren't conference champs. Why put a crap team in because they're conference champ? Miami could have lost to fsu, nd, and another team and beaten Clemson out for the ACC championship. Would that team deserve to make the playoff? And would your answer change if a 3 loss uf beat bama to "win" the sec?
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Well, let me ask you this. IF the selections are merit based, what has Bama done to deserve to get in? Name their best win.
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I'm not claiming bama deserves anything, just that the committee has put them at #1 despite their schedule. Given that, why wouldn't they stay in the top 4 after a loss to what looks like not just the best 2 loss team, but one of the best teams playing right now? Does it make sense to suddenly take SOS into consideration when you haven't before? As I said, what would you say if we were talking about Miami?
 
I said last week that Bama was already in no matter what. I'm sticking by that until proven otherwise.

The committee will do whatever they can do shoehorn Saban and Meyer in there.
 
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SayWhat said:
Assuming Clemson wins tonight, two college football spots are set.

ACC and SEC champs are in.

Clemson losing tonight would mean we could beat them and Still get left out. It would be a foregone conclusion should Auburn beat UGA bad. In that scenario, I think they will lean Bama's way.

A big step the committee could take though would be leaving Bama out no matter what and basing it on their ****** out of conference schedule. I would love the tone that would set for future OOC games.

We should all be big Clemson fans tonight. Either way, they will be a colossal test next week as they try to get back to defending their title.
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To be fair, bama did beat a top 5 fsu team to open the season. As such, their ooc schedule wouldn't look as bad as it does without a Francois injury leading fsu to a presumably better season
 
kryptonite said:
ThomasM said:
kryptonite said:
So everybody thinks bama is [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1][URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 [/URL] [/URL] right now, but one loss to #6 and they aren't in the top 4? They fall behind at least one 2 loss team? That seems farfetched, and frankly wrong. I'm not saying bama's the greatest, but if the committee thinks they're [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1][URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 [/URL] [/URL] now, what's the rationale for dropping them out of the top 4? Personally, I think the best 4 teams should get in even if they aren't conference champs. Why put a crap team in because they're conference champ? Miami could have lost to fsu, nd, and another team and beaten Clemson out for the ACC championship. Would that team deserve to make the playoff? And would your answer change if a 3 loss uf beat bama to "win" the sec?
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Well, let me ask you this. IF the selections are merit based, what has Bama done to deserve to get in? Name their best win.
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I'm not claiming bama deserves anything, just that the committee has put them at [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 [/URL] despite their schedule. Given that, why wouldn't they stay in the top 4 after a loss to what looks like not just the best 2 loss team, but one of the best teams playing right now? Does it make sense to suddenly take SOS into consideration when you haven't before? As I said, what would you say if we were talking about Miami?
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I agree with you. They had them at #1 when they had earned nothing, so they will not drop them far now. They have talked about quality wins, but that will now shift to quality losses since Bama has perhaps the best loss. We'll need to beat Clemson and pray. We should be in with a win. ANY win. Clemson beat Auburn, and we'd have a win over the #1 team in Clemson. For the life of me I can't see how they can keep Bama ahead of us, but it's Bama. They shouldn't even be in consideration, but they are.
 
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