#11 in total defense....what do I make of this?

I always want us to beat Fsu but still know AG won't win a title. If we win it's cuz of James coley

Is James Coley the reason the defense is dominating?

After what I've seen I still do not believe in this defense but they have played better. The alignments r still horrid and I want to see is vs real comp Fsu. To me beating these teams r expected that's why I *****, when u lose to ul Nebraska and gt it's coaching. I haven't forgot those games and just cuz we win three in a row I know this staff resume and I won't get sucked in.
 
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It's all about fsu. Keep pointing to stats, and I'll keep pointing to our record and our performance against teams with a pulse. This year, were 0-2 against teams with a pulse and 6-1 against complete dog ****.

It's year 4, and we're playing a shaky fsu team that has been on the verge of losing 4 times to mediocre teams this year. We got them at home and with an extra week to prepare. I don't want to hear any sissy **** about keeping it close. Beat them now, or continue to suck dyck against any good opponents.

Four years in, and if you can't beat this fsu team, you will have proven absolutely nothing other than you can beat a horrible team like UNC more handily than you have in the past. If that's good enough for you, then you're a ******.

It's step up time. Step up, or you've still done nothing.

THIS
 
All the recent performances have proved to me is that this team has the talent to be much better than it has been. The only corch on this team worth a **** is Coley. He's green and still leaves a lot to be desired, but you can see his improvement almost weekly. As Franchise said, this defense has yet to stop a decent team. And while we're not loaded, the performance on Sat showed that we have more than enough talent to do that.
 
We dont count these rankings if they show anything good we only bring these up when they are bad... Thats the motto of this board

How would you know what the board is like and its tendencies as you've indicated in previous posts unless you've been here for a while?

It's almost like you're TrueCane100/Cane4Life32 or something like that.
 
We dont count these rankings if they show anything good we only bring these up when they are bad... Thats the motto of this board

How would you know what the board is like and its tendencies as you've indicated in previous posts unless you've been here for a while?

It's almost like you're TrueCane100/Cane4Life32 or something like that.

Multiple accounts? NEVAR! Not here!!!!
 
It's all about fsu. Keep pointing to stats, and I'll keep pointing to our record and our performance against teams with a pulse. This year, were 0-2 against teams with a pulse and 6-1 against complete dog ****.

It's year 4, and we're playing a shaky fsu team that has been on the verge of losing 4 times to mediocre teams this year. We got them at home and with an extra week to prepare. I don't want to hear any sissy **** about keeping it close. Beat them now, or continue to suck dyck against any good opponents.

Four years in, and if you can't beat this fsu team, you will have proven absolutely nothing other than you can beat a horrible team like UNC more handily than you have in the past. If that's good enough for you, then you're a ******.

It's step up time. Step up, or you've still done nothing.

couldn't have said it better myself

blow UVA out

even if you dont, all this "improvement" doesn't mean jack sh*t if FSU doesn't walk out of miami with a loss on the 15th
 
November 15th will be the defining chapter in Golden's tenure in Coral Gables. I think this game is literally his job. Anything less than a win, and the noise will not be able to be ignored.

Beat FSU.

We will be a 10 point underdog... The game is 20 times bigger for fsu
 
1. Golden will be at UM coaching the Canes in 2015 win or lose FSU.
2. Is this a big game? Yes. It's not the defining make it or break it for Golden.
3. FSU is **** good. They are undefeated for a reason.
4. So now the teams we have beaten are no good? Weeks ago, just about everyone on this site gave no shot of us beating Duke and VT.
5. UNC has a **** good offense. One that put 40 plus on ND. Now the offense sucks after we played them. Hmm...
6. People need to stop complaining and just show up to the **** games! Bunch of Sunday morning QB's we have on this site.
7. Praise the team. They are playing their butts off.
8. Two more home games for Duke. Come out and enjoy the young man. Special to watch and cheer.
9. Coach D is not going anywhere.
10. Go and vote Tuesday.

Sharp post
 
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And as far as being ranked #11 is concerned, I don't think we are the #11 best defense in the country no matter what it says on paper. But for the last three games I think a combination of it clicking with players and alterations to the scheme and philosophy have made a world of difference and it has for those games played at an elite level.

Aggressive press coverage, safeties in the box, no more frog stances, players lined up over gaps instead of nose-to-nose, corner blitzes, and 4-3 sets may actually make this defense special. A good performance against FSU and staying Miami-aggressive and I will have one foot back on the bandwagon. Run the table after that and I think I'm sold.
 
We dont count these rankings if they show anything good we only bring these up when they are bad... Thats the motto of this board

How would you know what the board is like and its tendencies as you've indicated in previous posts unless you've been here for a while?

It's almost like you're TrueCane100/Cane4Life32 or something like that.

Forgot my password for canes4life32.... So well what better name then true cane .... Lol
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And as far as being ranked #11 is concerned, I don't think we are the #11 best defense in the country no matter what it says on paper. But for the last three games I think a combination of it clicking with players and alterations to the scheme and philosophy have made a world of difference and it has for those games played at an elite level.

Aggressive press coverage, safeties in the box, no more frog stances, players lined up over gaps instead of nose-to-nose, corner blitzes, and 4-3 sets may actually make this defense special. A good performance against FSU and staying Miami-aggressive and I will have one foot back on the bandwagon. Run the table after that and I think I'm sold.

Sold ... No way lol
 
We dont count these rankings if they show anything good we only bring these up when they are bad... Thats the motto of this board

How would you know what the board is like and its tendencies as you've indicated in previous posts unless you've been here for a while?

It's almost like you're TrueCane100/Cane4Life32 or something like that.

Forgot my password for canes4life32.... So well what better name then true cane .... Lol
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Fair enough.
 
And as far as being ranked #11 is concerned, I don't think we are the #11 best defense in the country no matter what it says on paper. But for the last three games I think a combination of it clicking with players and alterations to the scheme and philosophy have made a world of difference and it has for those games played at an elite level.

Aggressive press coverage, safeties in the box, no more frog stances, players lined up over gaps instead of nose-to-nose, corner blitzes, and 4-3 sets may actually make this defense special. A good performance against FSU and staying Miami-aggressive and I will have one foot back on the bandwagon. Run the table after that and I think I'm sold.

Sold ... No way lol

I want to be sold now, but I'm still apprehensive about any potential bananas in a tailpipe.

I'm curious to see if the defense is coached to be scared like it was for 3.5 seasons. If the staff has the stones to be aggressive against Florida State, then at least mentally they have turned the corner and I don't think anybody can argue against that.

I've been disappointed by Al and company for 2.5 years. (I'm giving him a slight pass for 2011.) But I've never been so optimistic under his tenure that he's pulled his head out of the sand and opened his eyes to what a Miami defense is supposed to be and should look like. I'll never forgive Penn State-gate and he's really late to the party but better late then never. FSU will tell me what I need to know.
 
It would be ******* great to win kids galore will be at this game so many recruits... Im already watching every fsu game since 1986 when i became a canes fan i get the chills it honestly just feels good to have that feeling its been gone for a few years... Also just a note in this era its hard to even judge a defense the numbers a so skewd we cant compare these to canes teama from 10 years ago... That goes for every team.... I will tell you vegas is adjusting are lines of a team on a serious improve this line before the seasom would of been 14-17 range i see it in the 10 range now .. I honestly dont know whats wrong with the noles i think the issues with jw are effecting them they are absolutely loaded as usual but one thing we always had on them even back in the day fsu always had more 5* they would raid miami every year even in are great years we always had more **** heart and we had the ****** orange bowl i miss that place so **** much ... I would love to see something happen om the stadium front will it most likely no but wow would it help.... Sorry for the rant off to watch another epic game ....
 
And as far as being ranked #11 is concerned, I don't think we are the #11 best defense in the country no matter what it says on paper. But for the last three games I think a combination of it clicking with players and alterations to the scheme and philosophy have made a world of difference and it has for those games played at an elite level.

Aggressive press coverage, safeties in the box, no more frog stances, players lined up over gaps instead of nose-to-nose, corner blitzes, and 4-3 sets may actually make this defense special. A good performance against FSU and staying Miami-aggressive and I will have one foot back on the bandwagon. Run the table after that and I think I'm sold.

Sold ... No way lol

I want to be sold now, but I'm still apprehensive about any potential bananas in a tailpipe.

I'm curious to see if the defense is coached to be scared like it was for 3.5 seasons. If the staff has the stones to be aggressive against Florida State, then at least mentally they have turned the corner and I don't think anybody can argue against that.

I've been disappointed by Al and company for 2.5 years. (I'm giving him a slight pass for 2011.) But I've never been so optimistic under his tenure that he's pulled his head out of the sand and opened his eyes to what a Miami defense is supposed to be and should look like. I'll never forgive Penn State-gate and he's really late to the party but better late then never. FSU will tell me what I need to know.

Right or wrong ill say it again i started my judging of al this year ..
He was left with ****... That ncaa bull**** that hung over the program for 2-3 years was and absolute joke never has this happened in cfb that a decision took so long ... Made it impossible to recruit... Thankfully during the witchunt the ncaa slipped up and we came out still with punishment but nothing like what i believed was going to be.... I will admit because of the situation it is so hard to judge golden while i have 100% confidence in his abilities as a recruiter ... And everything off the field he can leave a bit desired as a gameday coach... But then again we won with worse gameday coaches than him... All i can say is im ****** pumped!!
 
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And as far as being ranked #11 is concerned, I don't think we are the #11 best defense in the country no matter what it says on paper. But for the last three games I think a combination of it clicking with players and alterations to the scheme and philosophy have made a world of difference and it has for those games played at an elite level.

Aggressive press coverage, safeties in the box, no more frog stances, players lined up over gaps instead of nose-to-nose, corner blitzes, and 4-3 sets may actually make this defense special. A good performance against FSU and staying Miami-aggressive and I will have one foot back on the bandwagon. Run the table after that and I think I'm sold.

Sold ... No way lol

I want to be sold now, but I'm still apprehensive about any potential bananas in a tailpipe.

I'm curious to see if the defense is coached to be scared like it was for 3.5 seasons. If the staff has the stones to be aggressive against Florida State, then at least mentally they have turned the corner and I don't think anybody can argue against that.

I've been disappointed by Al and company for 2.5 years. (I'm giving him a slight pass for 2011.) But I've never been so optimistic under his tenure that he's pulled his head out of the sand and opened his eyes to what a Miami defense is supposed to be and should look like. I'll never forgive Penn State-gate and he's really late to the party but better late then never. FSU will tell me what I need to know.

Right or wrong ill say it again i started my judging of al this year ..
He was left with ****... That ncaa bull**** that hung over the program for 2-3 years was and absolute joke never has this happened in cfb that a decision took so long ... Made it impossible to recruit... Thankfully during the witchunt the ncaa slipped up and we came out still with punishment but nothing like what i believed was going to be.... I will admit because of the situation it is so hard to judge golden while i have 100% confidence in his abilities as a recruiter ... And everything off the field he can leave a bit desired as a gameday coach... But then again we won with worse gameday coaches than him... All i can say is im ****** pumped!!

I can't buy the, "This is the first year," argument. He had little talent to work with but the talent he did have is contributing in large parts on Sundays with Olivier Vernon, Lamar Miller, and Travis Benjamin. Also, with as little talent he had, the performances should have been better and much more competitive and the biggest elephant in the room of the all is D'Onofrio and other defensive coaches should have been let go a long time ago and Al put friendship above football. I think he wanted to give him one year with above par talent, but he still coaches scared and choked against weaker teams like Georgia Tech. And talent aside, his actual gameday calls and moves have been below average to put it kindly. I wasn't expecting him to be spectacular right off the bat with the position the program was in, but he should have been better than he was and his personal growth was slow. That was frustrating to no end.

I also can't fully buy the, "The NCAA killed recruiting," argument. Other than the 2011 class which sucked because of Shannon, the cloud, and lack of time, his classes have been highly ranked at an average of 13 or so since 2012. NCAA couldn't have hurt too bad if you pull that level of talent. I know he took some reaches but when you're in a situation like he was in your evaluations need to be spot on to hit on the talent that recruiting services missed and I question a lot of his evaluations. I'm also curious to see how great of a recruiter he is because in 2012 he had Duke which did all the work itself, in 2013 he took a small class and only a few have made an impact, and in 2014 he brought some real blue-chippers but not enough for my taste and the jury is still out on them. I've been on record that as a whole his recruiting hasn't been bad and it hasn't been great and I do think that the NCAA scared away the studs to a certain degree like Thomas, Kirkland, Collins, Cook, Sony, and others. But in spite of all that, I think the talent level has been overall good enough to win more than he has but not much more.

I'm pretty vocal about how highly I think of Butch but I'm aware that he developed as a gameday coach as his career he wore on here. It's only three games but maybe Golden is showing signs of that too. His eye for talent will never be in the same stratosphere as Butch but I really don't think anybody is. Golden has shown he is assembling a group of recruiters and from what I've seen thus far Kehoe, Scott, Ice, Carroll, and maybe Coley can really develop talent and that should excite everybody. Recruiters that can also develop guys? Sign me up.

The changes made starting with the Cincinnati game show a potential that the staff may finally be able to adjust and change their stripes. A competitive performance against FSU and winning out the remainder of the schedule will have me believing in him once again. A ****ting of the bed for the remaining three games will have me firmly believing that he should be fired and coaching linebackers at Purdue or on the moon with no spacesuit. I'm pretty underwhelmed with the 2015 class overall thus far and, in the very likely even Golden comes back next year, that will be concerning if he is to take the next step in 2015. I'm glad you're so confident at this point. I wish I could be and the seeds have been planted for me to do so. I originally thought Florida was the biggest game of his Miami career. I stand corrected and believe this game against FSU will determine his future.

Win/be ultra competitive and we are genuinely, "trending up."

Get blown out and stumble the rest of the season with a so-so recruiting class and he'll be a lame duck waiting for Butch to ride in on a white horse and save the day.
 
Here is some info for you all.

Season Average--Against Miami
UL 356-----------------336
Ark St 457.6----------329
Nebraska 497.2-------456
Duke 401.3-------------264
GT 469.5----------------371
Cinci 465.9-------------422
VT 367.9---------------262
NC 420.8--------------258

I didn't include Fla A&M for obvious reasons. So every team has played worse against Miami yardage wise than they have all year on average. The differences now is Miami's offense is clicking a great amount instead of going 3 and out 3 times a quarter. The turnovers have also decreased a tremendous amount. And on the defensive side we've amped up the pressure and matched personnel more recently than ever before under the staff. We had backups in on both sides of the ball against Cinci when we went up 41-13. A lot of their yards went against 2nd teamers. The starters held UNC to under 100 yards and 0 points until the backups started getting a considerable amount of snaps. I wish the pressure and personnel matching had been their all year. We wouldn't have gotten ran out of Nebraska more than likey. If we also had been playing with the adjusted alignments all year and aggression we probably could have stopped GT a few more times than we did. That is all the past though and I am glad things have changed for the better a great amount. If they continue this way, then why wouldn't we want Golden to stay?

Well, there is some improvement there. I think our defensive improvement is a mix of a lot of things, just as it was when it was bad. I think these kids play really well with a lead. When we get a stop early and then the O scores you just see the confidence exude from the players. I think the new found running game is also a big help, these defensive players are much fresher. I also think you are seeing the players play within the scheme better than they ever have before. I feel like maybe there was enough in the GT game where they were finally able to go through the film and literally show where we should have been and where guys were and for whatever reason the light has finally come on. I saw one read option play against UNC where we had a LB run right past the ball to go smoke the RB then the DE tackled the qb. It was assignment football at its finest. If the LB would have gone to the qb he would have pitched it. That kind of stuff builds confidence, in each other, in the other side of the ball etc.

One thing for sure, we all were right. We have the talent to win now. I think maybe it took the staff longer than it should have to recognize it, but these kids are ready. We got some real talent on this team. I think Kaaya is a bit further away from being elite than we give him credit for but he is plenty good enough to distribute the rock to the playmakers. I think that is why we have seen a bit of a disappearance of the WR. Kaaya sees the middle of the field really well, the outside? I think he needs a bit more work there. He also does not seem like he has the arm strength to really drive it in there on a back shoulder throw or a deep out like SM could. he will obviously develop that in the offseason. Kid has MAJOR upside for a true freshman!
 
And as far as being ranked #11 is concerned, I don't think we are the #11 best defense in the country no matter what it says on paper. But for the last three games I think a combination of it clicking with players and alterations to the scheme and philosophy have made a world of difference and it has for those games played at an elite level.

Aggressive press coverage, safeties in the box, no more frog stances, players lined up over gaps instead of nose-to-nose, corner blitzes, and 4-3 sets may actually make this defense special. A good performance against FSU and staying Miami-aggressive and I will have one foot back on the bandwagon. Run the table after that and I think I'm sold.

Sold ... No way lol

I want to be sold now, but I'm still apprehensive about any potential bananas in a tailpipe.

I'm curious to see if the defense is coached to be scared like it was for 3.5 seasons. If the staff has the stones to be aggressive against Florida State, then at least mentally they have turned the corner and I don't think anybody can argue against that.

I've been disappointed by Al and company for 2.5 years. (I'm giving him a slight pass for 2011.) But I've never been so optimistic under his tenure that he's pulled his head out of the sand and opened his eyes to what a Miami defense is supposed to be and should look like. I'll never forgive Penn State-gate and he's really late to the party but better late then never. FSU will tell me what I need to know.

When our coaches become smart enough to watch game film of Jimmy Johnson's and even Randy Shannon's defense shut down a triple option (keep it, pitch it, fumble it) team like GT and teach it that will tell me what I need to know.
 
Just listening to Golden on the joe rose show he hates to admit he changed the defense lol but whatever I'll take it
 
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