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So funny.. y’all using size now but in previous drafts y’all clowned Shannon and Golden for not taking players who fit the size mold and ended up in the league.
Wackiest fan base in all of football.
 
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Rellyrell said:
Number One, our coaches are not teachers of the game.
Number two, our coaches are not disciplinarians either on or off the field
Number three, our coaches are not leaders

So if our coaches don't know wtf they are doing, how will our players develop? We had a Athletic Director who wasn't even certified, and follow that up with Athletic Director who wasn't even present during morning workouts. Come on man, this can't be a serious question.
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This all just generalities. Disciplinarians, leadership, those are just phrases people throw out when they don’t have a real reason for team failure. Urban Meyer laughs at being a disciplinarian.

Poor training staff is a legit issue but neither of the previous head trainers you mentioned is employed by the university anymore. But yeah, a poor training staff can affect the team’s ability.

But here’s my point about “development”. If some guy from a D2 school gets drafted, was it because he was “developed” better than the D1 players he got picked ahead of? And if that’s the case, why isn’t his whole team “developed” at the same level? The D2 guy who got drafted isn’t getting better coaching or training than all the D1 guys he got drafted ahead of. The D2 guy got drafted because A) natural physical ability (height, speed, athleticism, strength) and B) he put in all the extra work to be the best possible player he could be. Coaches can’t develop work ethic. It’s something you have to try to account for when scouting and evaluating but coaches can’t force players to work their hardest, especially when the NCAA won’t let them be around players outside of a few hours a week.
 
Y’all sitting here saying shaq wasn’t developed. Garvin wasn’t developed. Pink wasn’t developed. No y’all was just some fools who thought garvin was really a top of the draft talent after a solid first two years
 
Rellyrell said:
Amik Robertson from LA Tech just got drafted in the 4th round and is Bandy's height.

AND he has hip issues. Maybe it's b/c LA Tech just smoked us and won 10+ games.
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Bandy has problems in man coverage. He is better in zone..Robertson was one of the Best plaster man to man guys in the draft..and a 5’8 and CB who struggles in man isn’t what the Nfl is looking for ..bandy has the traits of and instincts of a very good strong safety prospect..but at his size tgat aint happening
 
DTP said:
[QUOTE="Rellyrell
This all just generalities. Disciplinarians, leadership, those are just phrases people throw out when they don’t have a real reason for team failure. Urban Meyer laughs at being a disciplinarian.

Poor training staff is a legit issue but neither of the previous head trainers you mentioned is employed by the university anymore. But yeah, a poor training staff can affect the team’s ability.

But here’s my point about “development”. If some guy from a D2 school gets drafted, was it because he was “developed” better than the D1 players he got picked ahead of? And if that’s the case, why isn’t his whole team “developed” at the same level? The D2 guy who got drafted isn’t getting better coaching or training than all the D1 guys he got drafted ahead of. The D2 guy got drafted because A) natural physical ability (height, speed, athleticism, strength) and B) he put in all the extra work to be the best possible player he could be. Coaches can’t develop work ethic. It’s something you have to try to account for when scouting and evaluating but coaches can’t force players to work their hardest, especially when the NCAA won’t let them be around players outside of a few hours a week.
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Maybe I would agree w/ you if this chit hasn't been the case since 2005.
Where's Coker at?
Randy?
Golden?
Richt?
Where will Manny be at?

Where's our support staff been? Any of them promoted to head coaching jobs? NFL jobs where they are actually coordinators v. being an assistant position coach?

Come on bruh, I'm not speaking in generalities. If you don't think Meyers is not a disciplinarian then I have news for you. Yes, he will let you get away w/ murder off the field, but on the field....if you're not doing what tf you're supposed to do, you're not playing.

We got guys getting participation awards for losing, bruh. Are you serious right now? We have coaches proud of the effort our team gave in a losing battle to GT. Seriously?

And b.s if you don't think coaches can't develop work ethic. You act like this ain't THE U. Our practices were harder than our games!! The players knew what was required of them, and they knew what will happen if they failed to live up to that requirement. This country club bull chit have even watered down our fan base where they forget who the fck we are, and how the fck our players were coached. Pittsburgh didn't understand how Chick was put on a PIZZA diet and asked to hold the line. They were perplexed as to what was going on in Miami.

Whatever our rep was as far as getting our players prepared to succeed at the next level is gone. We've had talent per 247 recruiting sites, much more than Charlotte, Tulane, Temple, St Clair Bonaventure of the Alps or whatever fck schools you wanna name that's been drafted before our guys, and we can barely get guys drafted. EVERY single **** player that's come through here can't be listed as lazy and not hard working. But that coaching list I referenced....yeah, they ain't see a HC gig again. Why?
 
HurricaneHauk said:
Michael Sam was a projected 4th rounder before the combine and before he came out as a ***
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Correct. 4th round. Michael Sam also was 6'1-6'2 DE that weighed 260. Some had him in the 3rd as well. Still not getting what point you're trying to make.
 
Rellyrell said:
I do. Shaq is a good football player w/ some limitations that was greatly exaggerated due to Manny's boom or bust system along w/ playing on a suck *** team.
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If only your guarantee had value here. I like Shaq as a person no not going to debate this with you. Hopefully you’re right and his career will reflect it.
 
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Rellyrell said:
Amik Robertson from LA Tech just got drafted in the 4th round and is Bandy's height.

AND he has hip issues. Maybe it's b/c LA Tech just smoked us and won 10+ games.
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What were their testing numbers compared to each other? How long are their arms compared? Amik Robertson getting drafted because La Tech won 10 games has as much relation to reality as a Lysol IV curing COVID does.
 
The Franchise said:
What were their testing numbers compared to each other? How long are their arms compared? Amik Robertson getting drafted because La Tech won 10 games has as much relation to reality as a Lysol IV curing COVID does.
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For real lol.

Robertson's numbers:
HT: 5'8
WT: 187
Hands: 9''
Arms: 30 1/4
***Didn't run 40 or Shuttle

Bandy's numbers:
HT: 5'8
WT: 186
Hands: 9"
Arms: 29.88
40 Time: 4.5
Top Speed: 18.18 MPH
10 split: 1.59
20 split: 2.64
 
DTP said:
[QUOTE="Rellyrell
This all just generalities. Disciplinarians, leadership, those are just phrases people throw out when they don’t have a real reason for team failure. Urban Meyer laughs at being a disciplinarian.

Poor training staff is a legit issue but neither of the previous head trainers you mentioned is employed by the university anymore. But yeah, a poor training staff can affect the team’s ability.

But here’s my point about “development”. If some guy from a D2 school gets drafted, was it because he was “developed” better than the D1 players he got picked ahead of? And if that’s the case, why isn’t his whole team “developed” at the same level? The D2 guy who got drafted isn’t getting better coaching or training than all the D1 guys he got drafted ahead of. The D2 guy got drafted because A) natural physical ability (height, speed, athleticism, strength) and B) he put in all the extra work to be the best possible player he could be. Coaches can’t develop work ethic. It’s something you have to try to account for when scouting and evaluating but coaches can’t force players to work their hardest, especially when the NCAA won’t let them be around players outside of a few hours a week.
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These "development" guys can never explain away the "selective development" where the same exact coaches will get a guy drafted in the 1st round but then get blamed for not developing a guy at the same position who goes undrafted. Did they suddenly forget the secret development sauce for the undrafted guy?
 
Rellyrell said:
For real lol.

Robertson's numbers:
HT: 5'8
WT: 187
Hands: 9''
Arms: 30 1/4
***Didn't run 40 or Shuttle

Bandy's numbers:
HT: 5'8
WT: 186
Hands: 9"
Arms: 29.88
40 Time: 4.5
Top Speed: 18.18 MPH
10 split: 1.59
20 split: 2.64
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Did they run shuttles at their pro days? They must have both done some additional testing somewhere. I'm admittedly not overly familiar with Amik. I didn't watch a ton of La Tech games. But maybe he's a better cover guy than Bandy on tape. There's always that.
 
Hill, Osborn, Bandy, Quarterman, Dallas, Thomas, Bandy, Garvin, Pinckney

Hill/Osborn- Hill didnt do much, I think transfer helped Osborn. Neither were Miami recruits so staff gets a pass

Dallas- backfield was real crowded. Acceptable decision to leave early

Garvin- didn't really leave an impression. He likely would have seen less time next year too. We have better players now.
Acceptable decision to leave early

Quarterman- He wasnt quick enough to be a 4-3 MLB, but credit to him for making it work for the most part because of high football IQ.

Pinckney- Did his job. No complaints.

Bandy- for a player his size, he had better be an elite cover guy. He was ok, but nowhere near elite. NFL isn't going to bother with a 5'8" CB with average skills. Should have stayed in school and earned degree.

Thomas- Undoubtedly would have benefited from another year. He would have starred in Lashlee's offense. Could have shown he was a team player and put the questions about attitude to bed. Right now NFL teams see an undersized malcontent.
 
TimeB0mb said:
Hill, Osborn, Bandy, Quarterman, Dallas, Thomas, Bandy, Garvin, Pinckney

Hill/Osborn- Hill didnt do much, I think transfer helped Osborn. Neither were Miami recruits so staff gets a pass

Dallas- backfield was real crowded. Acceptable decision to leave early

Garvin- didn't really leave an impression. He likely would have seen less time next year too. We have better players now.
Acceptable decision to leave early

Quarterman- He wasnt quick enough to be a 4-3 MLB, but credit to him for making it work for the most part because of high football IQ.

Pinckney- Did his job. No complaints.

Bandy- for a player his size, he had better be an elite cover guy. He was ok, but nowhere near elite. NFL isn't going to bother with a 5'8" CB with average skills. Should have stayed in school and earned degree.

Thomas- Undoubtedly would have benefited from another year. He would have starred in Lashlee's offense. Could have shown he was a team player and put the questions about attitude to bed. Right now NFL teams see an undersized malcontent.
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Biggest mistake was Thomas

If he could not a be slapdick @Mklein13, he’s be round 3 next year min
 
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Thomas left early right before we get a gunslinger at QB who could've made him look like a rockstar. Yet another in a series of decisions he'll look back on with regret.
 
The Franchise said:
Did they run shuttles at their pro days? They must have both done some additional testing somewhere. I'm admittedly not overly familiar with Amik. I didn't watch a ton of La Tech games. But maybe he's a better cover guy than Bandy on tape. There's always that.
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I think the pro days were cancelled; but undoubtedly Bandy would’ve been drafted imo if he was kept in the slot. Bandy was a dog and his freshman year showed as much. B/c of our lack of DB recruiting, Bandy was forced boundary, and has continuously regressed, b/c he’s not a boundary DB. Robertson’s film was him harassing slot receivers and being **** successful at it.
 
HurricaneHauk said:
And Shaq is an athletically limited LB so you saying “Saban would have him 2nd round at worst” is completely false
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Wow; so r we going to act like Shaq didn’t put up 100 tackles this yr? Shaq was not put in the best position to succeed, period. Sam was on nobody’s radar til his Sr season. Shaq was on EVERYONE’S radar after his freshman yr.

Manny’s scheme is boom or bust, and if I’m a LB I’m not f’ing w Miami, period. Our DTs either get TFLs or get lost and our LBs are compromised.

Alright peep; let’s do this: Let’s table this discussion for this season. (Hopefully we have one). There’s no excuses for either side of the ball; can we agree on that? Lashlee is supposed to infuse a new way of offense here, and we have been upgraded, athletically, at the LB position.

U know, like everyone else, I was real hard on Shaq this yr. REAL hard. But I also recognize Manny’s system is a very flawed one that puts up shiny statistics until it faces any coach worth a ****.

So let’s see how Huff, Flagg, McCloud, Austin-Cave, and Brooks look.
 
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