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Terrible class for FSU standards. But their class didn't collapse like ours did. Why? Because of the recruiters. Our class completely bottomed out because we didn't have any recruiters to prop up the results on the field like FSU did.

So winning only allows you to improve recruiting to some degree at a few schools? The rest of schools, winning doesn't help? That's an amazing argument, because it can't really be disproved. One can always say, "they don't count, they aren't a school that can ever improve recruiting. Next...

Campbell had CBs from the insiders to Miami. The idea that we couldn't have won him over, is silly. Same thing with the DT from GA that went to FSU. Etc., etc. And I'm still not understanding your point? So we locked up all the kids that "wanted" to be Canes before the season even started...

You’re still not answering my question. You keep wanting to explain why their winning hasn’t made them Texas A&M in recruiting. But I’ve alrady conceded they shouldn’t be the Aggies. I’m not asking why they aren’t in the big time Texas schools in recruiting.

This is just narrative pushing. You’re saying winning 9 games is what created the number 1 class in April. While completely ignoring that our 2018 recruiting actually got worse as the season went on. Meaning as we were a game away from the playoffs, we started losing more and more recruiting...

That’s not really answering my question. I’m not asking why they don’t bring in elite classes. I’m asking why they aren’t really seeing any kind of bump?

Except we basically had that Top 10 locked up by April. Before we even won a game. Our recruiting actually slowed down and we finished poorly on the trail that year, despite the winning on the field.

Why have Gary Patterson’s classes remained static at TCU despite all his winning and being in Texas? Why did McElwain’s classes start improving after he hired Seider, but during the same season he’s now losing on the field? There really is no evidence that winning “creates” recruiting. It’s...

The RB Coach seems to have a lot of recruiting upside, but it’s just upside at this point. But the RB Coach hire doesn’t make sense within the context of the WR Coach hire. One of those needed to be a big time recruiting get today. You can’t fold the WR Coach card and hope it works out with...

Great hire. Exactly what you want out of the position.