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Let me ask you this: You watch the SEC like the rest of us. UGA and Bama are obviously the two most talented teams in the SEC. But from an offensive innovation standpoint, do you consider them the two best teams of the SEC? Would you really rather run what UGA ran last year compared to what...

Except you can go to the RB Coach thread from last night, and I'm defending the hire. And defending it for the exact same reasons I'm bashing the OC hire. But whatever you say.

Exactly. You always start from the position: If I had NO idea what kind of talent I was going to get, what offensive scheme would I ideally choose? The answer is of course the system that best mitigates a lack of talent. Would anybody actually choose the scheme Enos runs if you didn't...

Except that's a review of what he did at Central Michigan, when he WAS the head coach. Not a review of what he did under BB's direction.

But the MAC goes against the MAC. You act like he was at Boston College having to play against the southern based ACC teams. He had more than enough athletes to run whatever scheme he wanted relative to the athletes he was facing on a weekly basis. It hasn't stopped any other MAC teams from...

In years where he didn't have NFL talent, how do you think his offenses performed? About at the level they should perform? Better? Worse?

What is it that you like about what Chaney does, schematically? What do you think he does a really good job of putting pressure on the defense and putting them in tough spots to defend?

Actually our 2013 offense ranked Top 5 in the S&P+.

Even Saban has had to bend the knee and go more and more towards motion and modern concepts. He's had to adjust the defense he ideally wants to run in response to these offenses because they are so difficult to stop.

You and I watch completely different games on Saturday. I see more and more of the elite teams moving away from what you are talking about, and more towards the "gimmick" offense.

No, we are saying with elite players ANY offense can win titles. That doesn't mean every offense is equal in terms of scheme.

Dear god.

It's amazing we actually have people arguing that they would prefer Chaney's offensive scheme to Art Briles' offensive. But that's what you have to do to defend this hire.

Baylor today or Baylor under Art Briles? If it's Baylor under Briles, god yes. Give me that offensive scheme over anything Kirby Smart wants to run.

When he was loaded with NFL talent. That's always the best criteria when judging how good an offensive philosophy is: look at what it can do with enough NFL players across the board!!!

I want schemes that lend themselves to scoring because the principles of the scheme are so difficult for the defense to defend. I don't want a scheme that requires elite talent to work because the principles of the scheme are so easy to defend and actually hurt the offense's production. We...

This is such a dumb argument. Even Saban has had to continue to change his offense over the last few years and concede what he ideally wants, doesn't work anymore. People keep pointing to the SEC and I don't understand why? Saban, Smart, Coach O, Muschamp, etc. these aren't guys that run...

I love that people keep saying these coaches that run absolutely **** offensive schemes (Harbaugh, Smart) wanted him, like that is suppose to be a good thing. Next somebody is going to say Will Muschamp wanted him.

Yes, all that matters is points. But if we signed a QB with no arms, would you say, "Hey, it doesn't matter, as long as he can lead us to points"? The entire point here is what SCHEME lends itself to scoring. This isn't 20-20 hindsight. There are thousands and thousands and thousands of...

Most of us were hoping we would go to Texas State or something to get our OC. The idea that we are mad because we didn't expect him, is just excuse making. People are upset because his scheme is not a modern, offensive scheme. It's not a bunch of motion and jet sweep. Every fan would have...