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Yeah but both Urban and Saban got to where they were by proving themselves first. Urban did it at Utah and immediately won at UF. He won and he won quick. Zook could recruit his *** off but was a terrible coach, Urban won with his players and then his own. Saban was successful at MSU and then...

The elite kids can’t even fathom the thought they would make it to the league, sure it happens all the time but it won’t be them. That’s the mentality. Your entire post still is coated with bias for our program. Even Urban can show a great alumni support program at a school like OSU. Sure the...

It’s crazy that some on here still don’t realize that our program just ain’t **** anymore in the eyes of these kids. We haven’t done **** in a decade and a half and everytime we start to turn the corner we **** the bed yet again. We have to win out now, if that happens and then win 11 next year...

We do have some say in all of this but until we stop losing to the Pitts and UVA's and win a a marquee game, it will be just more of the same.

What’s gonna suck is when he shines at Bama and we missed out on another difference maker. The fans on here crack me up, they say Baga ain’t **** and we are getting closer and closer yet everytime they steal someone from us, that prospect won’t see the field. Baga rarely comes down here...

Hopefully he plays Bama like his twitter namesake did

Not sure this is out of nowhere. Baga, the empire of the last decade, tells him he is a take and the local school he was favoring ***** the bed against UVA, which in turn throws that program into a spiral. It sucks for us but that’s reality.

This one stings if true. Position of need and the kid is drastically underrated. Please tell me your fvckin with people here?

That and Texas is in Austin, an actual city. Not Miami but not the sticks either