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What? I'M not going to be surprised. The "just say no to a new stadium" crowd will be surprised, but not me. I posted a range of stadium capacities for CONVERSATIONAL purposes. I don't think you can ever find a post of mine that said "hey, guys, you are going to love the 45K erector set...

That's fine. I presented the other stadium numbers for comparatives, but if it's 65K in RFS and 65K in HRS, then we are fine. Except for the Golden Canes who are mad that they lost their living room recliner seats at HRS.

One point of clarification (and I don't know if you paraphrased the YouTuber or the YouTuber got it wrong), but Tropical Park is not "City of Miami" owned, it is Metro-Dade. Essentially, the City of Miami is JUST the downtown portion of Miami as well as Coconut Grove. It's a very small city...

The Intramural Fields it is: https://www.usf.edu/news/2022/usf-committee-recommends-site-for-on-campus-football-stadium-5-million-gift-announced-to-advance-the-project.aspx

I've listed 3 potential ideal locations that (ignoring the Hard Rock bros) would be the feasible locations for a UM-owned/controlled stadium. 1. Tropical Park - good access to the Palmetto (826), but it is currently a public park, and there may be political opposition 2. East of Marlins...

Oh, man, that's great to hear. Yeah, Bristol was owned by our competitor (Speedway Motorsports). Bruton did a heckuva job building up Bristol and Charlotte, and I'll even give him a lot of credit for Vegas and Kentucky. I took a pilgrimmage to Bristol a few years back, I definitely was not...

No problem, sir. I have enormous respect for your background, and that's not just blowing smoke. I used to work for ISC/NASCAR, we owned (at the time) 12 NASCAR tracks, and those facilities were either used for ONE race weekend per year or TWO race weekends per year. So I completely...

You are correct, operating the facility will cost money. I would simply point out, though, that "the City of Miami" didn't "rid themselves of that expense of the OB", they simply traded it for a newer version, with the Marlins stadium. And don't even get me started on the MASSIVE fvck-up with...

Please stop with the nonsense. Nobody ever said "it will increase attendance". People may have said that it will increase attendance AMONG THE UM STUDENTS, but nobody has made a claim that a 60K or a 55K stadium will "increase attendance" over a 65K stadium. Traffic? It's god**** Saturdays...

Fair points. I'm just saying that "150-250 morning/evening work commutes" and "6-7 Saturday gamedays" would not necessarily be equal traffic jams. Even a 35-year-on-campus-stadium-proponent like myself can acknowledge that "on-campus" isn't happening. I'd prefer anything in a 5-10 mile...

Fair enough. I just think we need to distinguish. The pile of cash required for a stadium would have strings. Mainly "name on building" strings. So if the Ruiz family can pull it off, I'm just gonna sit back, watch, and eat popcorn.

I would be fine with that. It might be more realistic that the Marlins are sold and moved, but we shall see.

Hard Rock can currently seat 65K for football. We are 33rd in college football. A 60,000 seat stadium would put us at 47th, equal with West Virginia, and just behind schools like Mississippi State, North Carolina, Cal, Virginia, Kentucky, Illinois and Oklahoma State (all "state schools"). A...

Why do you choose to invent impediments and fantasies that make your "conclusion" self-fulfilling? You can couch it in conditional language ("if"), but it's the same bullcrap arguments people have been making for years. Meanwhile...Hard Rock seating capacity has declined, Hard Rock parking...

What's really bad (and misguided) about the poster who said "why not allocate those funds towards NIL" is that it is magical thinking. He acts as if John Ruiz has deposited a bag of money on UM's doorstep and just said "I trust you to spend this however you want". But that's not what is...

Got it. And for the record, you should know that I never complain about you. We have plenty of other lunkheads who like to tell us that Hard Rock is absolute perfection and that we never need another facility ever, to infinity.

We are about to have the richest man in Florida as our #1 booster, and people are still complaining about UM accepting a gift of a football stadium...

USF...bring it on... https://www.tampabay.com/sports/bulls/2022/01/06/when-might-usf-open-an-on-campus-football-stadium-how-about-2027-vs-miami/?outputType=amp&fbclid=IwAR2jY0q87FuG7FkAKreYrfJXvqaV2XuLVryK2BYaQDKZKMAP9bN8nTnB-fE