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  1. TheOriginalCane

    UM's Plan To Reopen

    I found the perfect gift to send to paksat, though I'm sure they will get bunched up... https://www.canava.co/products/rincon-echo-cuomo
  2. TheOriginalCane

    UM's Plan To Reopen

    I figured I would extend a weekend-opening olive branch to all the Trump worshippers... Here you go, a podcast that explores whether the CIA wrote the power ballad "Wind of Change" for The Scorpions. Enjoy! https://crooked.com/podcast-series/wind-of-change/
  3. TheOriginalCane

    UM's Plan To Reopen

    I posted an article from Business Insider. Which does, in fact, then cite The Daily Beast. I am not arguing that one viewpoint is correct, and another is not. As I stated, multiple times, I find it amusing that "people who didn't like science and stats two months ago" are now citing science...
  4. TheOriginalCane

    UM's Plan To Reopen

    Nice selfie.
  5. TheOriginalCane

    UM's Plan To Reopen

    Just stop it. If one governor makes a mistake, that does not obligate 49 other governors to make the same mistake. I'm not arguing statistics with you. My point (which you ignored) is to point out that it is disingenous to "not blame" the federal government's response, while cherry-picking a...
  6. TheOriginalCane

    UM's Plan To Reopen

    Crazy thoughts? What do you think "this type" of pandemic is? A pandemic is a pandemic. There is nothing special about "this type" of pandemic that should have allowed anyone to dismiss it as a "serious possibility that couldn't happen in our lifetimes". As pointed out previously, there were...
  7. TheOriginalCane

    UM's Plan To Reopen

    I'm not saying you can't make the attempt, and I'm not complaining about the attempt. I'm just saying it was a weak and pathetic attempt. I'm critiquing the attempt.
  8. TheOriginalCane

    UM's Plan To Reopen

    WAAAAH. Try to be as civil as Pentagon is being.
  9. TheOriginalCane

    UM's Plan To Reopen

    Put your response and my response side by side. Clearly, you are the one who is "triggered". I am just finding the humor in this newfound love of "statistics" by the same people who were trashing science and statistics two months ago. "Stalin". What a silly attempt at name-calling.
  10. TheOriginalCane

    UM's Plan To Reopen

    I'm sure that we all have a lot of other things to do. Relax, I'm just giving you a hard time. Sometimes these responses aren't neatly summarized in 50 words or less. I wish it was that easy.
  11. TheOriginalCane

    UM's Plan To Reopen

    I didn't say that you absolutely had to conclude one way or the other, and there is absolutely evidence to support what I am saying. I just find it amusing that when the death tolls were "rising", "certain people" complained about the statistics and what they meant. And now that death tolls...
  12. TheOriginalCane

    UM's Plan To Reopen

    AOC? That's where you go with your partisanship? She was elected in November 2018. Pence ran for VP in 2016, and there were plenty of news reports at that time. I have a long memory, I don't need a first-term representative to provide media reporting that was widely available 4 years ago...
  13. TheOriginalCane

    UM's Plan To Reopen

    Why do you think a "deaths by date of death" chart has so much meaning, when there has been political pressure to report the cause of death differently? You don't think that we might be having "fewer deaths" reported because the doctors are being pushed not to list "Covid-19" as the cause of...
  14. TheOriginalCane

    UM's Plan To Reopen

    Please stop lying. You are the one making this political. There is criticism of Pence leading the task force based on his failures (when he was Indiana governor) to effectively handle the HIV epidemic in Indiana. I understand why people on the right want to blame any analysis/criticism of...
  15. TheOriginalCane

    UM's Plan To Reopen

    I've never cited anyone in the "defense department". The NSA. The intelligence community. Which, until recently, had a group devoted to the impact of pandemics on national security. This isn't just about one person with a medical degree. Pandemics impact us in more ways that just medical...
  16. TheOriginalCane

    UM's Plan To Reopen

    I don't think anybody is absolving Fauci of all acts and statements. But there were OTHER advisors warning Trump of problems, and they were ignored. I realize that it is difficult for any President to weigh the advice of the advisors, or to make choices between conflicting advice. But this is...
  17. TheOriginalCane

    UM's Plan To Reopen

    Oh, here we go. Fed is blameless, states are the problem. Suuuure. Meanwhile, the federal government is the level that had the intel, and has the resources to plan and coordinate. Yeah, as broke as the states are, we are supposed to have 50 different NSAs, 50 different CDCs, 50 different...
  18. TheOriginalCane

    UM's Plan To Reopen

    I wasn't expecting you to defend your "I don't blame anyone in the US government" conclusion. You can't.
  19. TheOriginalCane

    UM's Plan To Reopen

    I also love this one: “The last administration left us nothing. We started off with bad, broken tests, and obsolete tests,” Trump asserted, prompting Acosta to jump in and ask: “You say ‘broken tests’ — it’s a new virus, so how could the tests be broken?”
  20. TheOriginalCane

    UM's Plan To Reopen

    Breaking down both of your posts, we are in agreement on about 80-85%. Where we do disagree can be summed up fairly easily. Your first post: First, like you, I don't trust the Chinese either. Long history of insular thinking, lack of sharing, and out-and-out dishonesty. I was JOKINGLY...
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