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That is obviously the UM on-campus football stadium, once Lake Osceola has been drained.

It's not meant to be alarmist, I just thought it was something worth noting, as Iran would be at the high end of the list of countries whose governments are not as transparent in their responses to crises like this. EDIT: This next article is already a couple of weeks old: Feb. 25, 2020, 7:52...

Here's the first bit. Washington Post: Coronavirus burial pits so vast they’re visible from space Iranian authorities began digging a pair of trenches for victims just days after the government disclosed the initial outbreak. Together, their lengths are that of a football field. By Erin...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/iran-coronavirus-outbreak-graves/?itid=hp_hp-top-table-main_iran-virus-burials-1035am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/iran-coronavirus-outbreak-graves/

I agree with almost everything you said, and I hope you don't think I'm persecuting anyone for mentioning the economy. I am just tired of the way that old tropes are USED by some/many. "It's not that bad" and "Oh, the economy" are used (intentionally or unintentionally) to herd people towards...

And this. [50 year old spoiler alert]

It's all good, I still love ya! I go back to my earlier point, though. If we have "so much more knowledge" in 2020 than we did in 1918, why is it still so hard to convince some (not all) of the wisdom of shutting down mass events? I could understand the Mayor of Philadelphia being an idiot in...

I agree with you. I would just point out that (to date) nobody has been trampled while standing in line outside of a hospital waiting for the doors to open once the new Coronavirus testing kits some in. So Wal-Mart Black Friday is still more deadly than "Coronavirus hype". But I think that we...

Just for historical accuracy, the Spanish Flu outbreak was 1918-1920. The Industrial Revolution was 1760-1840.

I don't ignore it. In fact, I have frequently cited it. I was addressing the SPECIFIC comment that Empirical makes over and over again, about "wanting to get back to football". But, yes, there is a MUCH larger impact that will be felt. For the moment, on this thread, we SEEMED to be talking...

Again, not comparing medicine. Comparing the "let's go forward with a parade involving 200,000 people, regardless of this 1918 outbreak" to "we should continue to have the NCAA Tournament, regardless of this 2020 outbreak". The human thought process is similar. The medicine is completely...

Look, there is no "absolutism" there. First, it is uncontroverted that we have cut the funding for the CDC, and that we were not (previously) using WHO-approved testing kits, etc. There is a difference between some of the diseases you cite (Ebola), which was LARGELY contained on one...

You will certainly be at the top of the "Ignored" list soon.

Absolutely true. Spanish Flu circulated for about 6 months, and (unless we later learn otherwise), we seem to have had a quicker response to Coronavirus. Again, it is not so much a disagreement with the factual comparisons of stats/history/impact. It is more about the ongoing battle of human...

True. In person or online, I will avoid anyone who argues that we don't need to worry about Coronavirus because other illnesses are worse. Problem solved.

It is not a comparison of 1918 medicine vs. 2020 medicine. It is a comparison of 1918 government response/business precautions vs. 2020 government response/business precautions.

"Bad luck"? No, it is just an EXAMPLE of how (not so long ago) we tended to minimize the impact before we knew all of the details. Everything you say about the Spanish Flu is correct, but that doesn't mean that information was known at the outset. "Monday Morning Quarterbacking" is great, it...

That's what people like you do. You mischaracterize a reaction, or even a mild overreaction, into a mass hysteria. "Cancel Christmas". Yeaaaaah, that's what's happening, right. Over-over-reactors like you turn "until further notice", which may well be 2 weeks, into "Cancel Christmas 9 months...

Look, you are a complete fraud. You are JUST AS BAD as those who you claim are "overreacting". Every time something like this happens, there are extremes. And you are on the "nothing is wrong" extreme. Meanwhile, it is possible to minimize the impact by PROJECTING how much harm could arise...

But Empirical Cane says that those 800 were all old and/or immunocompromised, so we should do nothing.