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man if it just came down to money Texas would have rings stacked to the ceiling, obviously there's way more to it than that, we have never paid as much as the big schools

we could not compete w the big boys then either, and Butch was in no way negotiating to be top 3 in salary, not even top 10

I lost zero cred by stating that hoss, you just showed your ignorance is all that happened here. Butch is better than any coach we have hired since well, Butch. You seriously think Mandy is better, or AG, or RS, Butch is a monster recruiter and has a better eye for talent than any coach we've...

money IS NOT the issue guys, i wish we could get a number on the money we've thrown away the last 15 yrs, all the hiring, the stupid buyouts, millions and millions. Also fyi, Butch woulda took less money than we're paying Mandy, you think he woulda done a better job lol

dead on man, dead on, we been on same page the last 15 yrs

Like it or not OP is dead on, well said Bern. The problem is at the top, unless the powers above have a change o heart this is now Miami football, for those who have been around awhile, i go back to 84, its damm sure hard to take. About the only thing that remains from those days is the U on the...