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Hahaha. Exactly (sadly)....even though I obviously think in Garvin's specific instance that he's still making a big mistake. Perhaps this is where having some like like Zo around (in whatever role) that has massive NFL talent evaluation experience and could at least be semi-disconnected from...

You obviously misinterpreted what I meant and applied it only to Garvin. I was talking in general. That we seemingly haven't made any progress in convincing kids to stay even after they see it blowup time after time on our players. That we continue to outpace most other programs in having this...

The money actually has to offered to him for him to be opting for it.

Worst of both worlds. I personally think he's making a horrible decision disirregardless of Manny but the people that should be convincing him to stay have zero credibility. Now factor in the extraneous toxic influences always around our program too and here we are again.

If it's Ariz then he's all set. 7th Round Management will setup a GoFundMe for the kid if things go south.

Yup. And we never do a better job of convincing them either. Neverending cycle.