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Ed Reed was a 3 star. I get sick of seeing that. That was the infancy of recruiting rankings. To be honest, I don't even remember them. He was an all-state selection in a very good football state. He also had a very successful track and field career. Camps weren't even much of a thing...

Ed Oliver was a five star recruit who picked Houston to be coached by Tom Herman. It was a huge pickup for a school of their calibre. He had offers from everyone.

To the guy above. Pads on or off, you can generally tell who has the athleticism to play. Still, athleticism isn't everything, just a key component to tell where their ceiling is. Lots of other factors determine if they can reach that athletic ceiling. You won't see that at a lot of...